conscious Oobe....It's Real!!

I have been trying OOBE for the past 8 years. It's very good to read a thread like this and hear such a sucess story.

I have found that i concentrate too much when doing it, and whenver that moment comes, fear creeps in.

I would welcome any help or advice someone could offer me.

Congratulations on your OOBE RiverGoddess.
Before getting to this point did you have to develop other skills? I've been reading that psiballs are a good place to start. If they are, were they much use on the astral plane?

I just read this whole thread and have recently committed myself to developing this skill. Confidence is high.

I thought I'd post a few of the things I've read in regard to astral projection. Anybody can feel free to comment or correct me as I'm just a dude seeking knowledge:

Love/Light: I have read some of The RA Material at L/L Research and was very intrigued. I like the idea of love/light and service to others. I intend to radiate this love/light as I learn AP. My question is this: Are there astral entities that are negatively polarized and who gain power fom enslavment on the astral level? I'm not really a fearful person in gneral, so the fear of being enslaved or damaged in the astral plane is minimal, but I'm curious.

Chakras: I have read that visualizing chakras as colored (as in the RA material) is not the right thing to do and somehow gives one a false understanding of their function. Is this true? I have meditated on each chakra and I feel most powerful when I am focusing my Pineal chakra (thrid eye). My brain begins buzzing and I feel super-alert. The RA material says that this chakra is extremely hard to open but my humility prevents me from being too impressed with these feelings. My question is, should I visualize my chakras (A) all at once, (B) from the earth upward, or (C) from the top down? Any help along these lines would be much appreciated.

The Higher Self: Is this me? I mean, what portion of the higher self is me? That's my question. If left unchecked, my ego is enormous, but something has always told me to remain humble because that's how you learn. Nobody ever was contacted by a master because they were talking about how great they are, if you follow. Nevertheless, if I want to massage my ego and imagine myself as being god-like, it's not hard. My question is: Does my higher self know everything about me and more? If so, what is the best way to open a channel for my higher self to assist/educate me?

Thanks for all help! Of course, if someone wants to U2U me and swoop down to pull me out, that'd be AWESOME. :^)

just wondering if that person could also u2u me...
Thanks

I have been meditating for years now, and about 6 months ago while doing something completely unrelated (a new muscle relaxation technique I'm working on), I seperated. Immediately, I freaked out a bit, and snapped back. Now I can get to that point any time, it's just that because I was not seeking it, I don't know what to do, or what to expect. Basically, I've got a drivers license, but I don't know how to drive. If anyone could point me in the right direction with some links or contact me with the info, about what I should be doing after I seperate or how to do anything besides just float there.

Originally posted by Duzey
I have been meditating for years now, and about 6 months ago while doing something completely unrelated (a new muscle relaxation technique I'm working on), I seperated. Immediately, I freaked out a bit, and snapped back. Now I can get to that point any time, it's just that because I was not seeking it, I don't know what to do, or what to expect. Basically, I've got a drivers license, but I don't know how to drive. If anyone could point me in the right direction with some links or contact me with the info, about what I should be doing after I seperate or how to do anything besides just float there.

If you dont mind Duzey, can you please tell me what this muscle relaxation technique is? either by U2U or just by posting it here

Originally posted by ivanglam

Originally posted by Duzey
I have been meditating for years now, and about 6 months ago while doing something completely unrelated (a new muscle relaxation technique I'm working on), I seperated. Immediately, I freaked out a bit, and snapped back. Now I can get to that point any time, it's just that because I was not seeking it, I don't know what to do, or what to expect. Basically, I've got a drivers license, but I don't know how to drive. If anyone could point me in the right direction with some links or contact me with the info, about what I should be doing after I seperate or how to do anything besides just float there.

If you dont mind Duzey, can you please tell me what this muscle relaxation technique is? either by U2U or just by posting it here

DUZEY OOOOOO YES!!!! Please share with us all the details of your relaxation tecnique, I sure want to know as I am SURE that others do to!
I also dont quite KNOW how to 'do anything' as of yet....I do float around, and I can choose to GO SOMEWHERE and I fly out of the house and 'around' but getting to points of destination of choice is still beyond me.....Im hoping others will post HOW to CONTROL oneself during OOBE, and keep checking the thread in hope

[edit on 18-1-2005 by theRiverGoddess]

I'm 'self-taught’; I don't know the lingo so I hope this makes sense. I have a few different things I can do (mental chiropractic adjustments), but the one that caused the separation was actually very simple. I have pretty stiff shoulders and neck, and I'm always trying new ways to help them. It occurred to me while meditating, that if I could reduce the effect of gravity, it wouldn't hurt so much. So, I just imagined that I was filling up with helium, and I felt gravity lessen. Then, pop! Well, not pop, more of float, wait a minute, what’s going on, oh crap, I know what this is, EEK! And then I was back.

The only thing is, you have to be totally focused, and make your mind believe this is true. That’s how I do most everything I attempt. I just find it easier to have a focus. Convince your mind, and your body will follow. Like I mentioned, I crack my own neck, back, shoulders and hips, by thinking about it. Currently, I'm working on raising my metabolism, by increasing my base heart rate. I do this by 'running' the marathon in my mind. My plan is to get to a point where I can do it with very little conscious effort. Weight loss through meditation!!! The trick to this is details, lots and lots of details.

Disconcerting, because up until then I had been focusing exclusively on self-healing, and projection of will. Wasn't expecting it at all, and haven't a clue what to do. But I having a feeling it could be dangerous to jump in without some knowledge. If you have any questions, feel free to ask, or u2u.

Also theRiverGoddess, do you just choose to go somewhere? Is that what I'm supposed to do? All I can do is get out, so anything you can share will be helpful. Like I said, totally clueless, and don't want to plow through a bunch of information on how to get there, I can do that already. I just want to know if there's a place I can find out what to do, or not to do. Don't want to get lost or have something bad happen, through my own ignorance. At this point, I'm in over my head.

I just wanted to add that I do this sitting cross-legged, as it appears most on this thread are lying down. I don't know if this makes a difference or not, I've never tried lying down and meditating.
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Greetings, yet another first poster has come to this thread

I must thank you river goddess for renewing my interest in this. I first gained an interest about 4 or 5 years ago, but hardly knew anything about how to do it and gave up.

So far I’ve managed to go into the trance once and managed to barely get through the vibrations and gain only a moment of the flashes of light. I probably wasn’t able to get much farther due to the shock of what the trance was like. I’ve tried a few more times after that but didn’t manage to get into the trance. Though at the time that I did succeed, I was trying the rope technique. Though not really trying but more doing it slowly in preparation while waiting for everyone else to go to sleep so I could really begin it in silence. Once I finally knew they were, I hadn’t really made the conscious decision to truly start once the trance did begin. I guess now I’m just trying too hard.

Though the strange thing is that I sort of broke concentration during numbness by turning onto my back, yet I was still able to continue from right where I was and go farther.

Just read the begining of this post and realised I've had a similar experience of being "yanked" out of my body by someone/thing whilst I was asleep.
It wasn't a nice experience though. It started with sleep paralysis and as I started to relax to break the paralysis I felt the sensation of being pulled out of my body. At first I was willing to let it happen and then I felt that this probably wasn't a good idea and decided to stay where I was. I really had to struggle though as who/whatever was doing this didn't want to let go.
I won but I kind of dread to think what would happened if I'd lost. It may have been a great experience but I wasn't prepared to go at that point.
So who/whatever it was please ask first before trying to take my spirit off for a walk.

Originally posted by theRiverGoddess
I have a lifes goal of achieving CONSCIOUS OOBE~~

If sarcastic, every life has a goal to end with an OBE

The night of Jan 27th 2005.....2 days after my birthday.....was a weird and exiting night for me.
I had a toothache all day and was taking lortabs for the pain, so when going to bed I was groggy and drugged. I didnt expect to try and OOBE or anything I was just trying to pass out.
Prior to sleep...here came the rushing noise so I thought, why not try this while my body is drugged and hurting? Maybe OOBE will be a relief of feeling my tooth hurt? So I tried to go with it.......and I was finding myself in this very brown place, seamingly in a void of my own head. Everything was just a dark brown, but I could still hear the rushing sound, so I went with the rope ladder technique. No good...I wasnt getting anywhere out of this brown place with the rushing sound. My son spoke out in his sleep saying "wrong energy card!" (he is very into POKEMON and YUGIO ) I decided maybe he was saying something I could use, so I then started 'swimming' through the brown void, I was swimming hard trying to GET into my son's room....and POP I came out! But I was in my own room, so I thought to go into his room and look at him. There was a roller coaster feeling and BLAM I was back in my body again. I could still hear the rushing noise, so I thought I would again attemt to get out using this 'swimming' visual I had just used.....I was working on it, and then a voice spoke to me saying "COME ON LETS GO!"....this was not the voice of my yanker, nor was it my son speaking in his sleep again. I wonderd WHO this could be? was someone wanting to go flying with me? have I somehow made a 'friend' during OOBE I am not aware of? so my train of thought was now wondering who this 'voice' belonged to and the rushing sound slowly went away. I ended up not going anywhere but to sleep.
Ive read and studied that to OOBE you need to be rested and its best attempted in the am, or after severall hours of good REM sleep. I have found though for me the rushing sound only is coming to me when I am first trying to go to sleep. This 'sound' is my invitation, or doorway it would seam, to be able to progect.
hmmmmmmm is all I can say right now.
I wish I KNEW how to GO PLACES..........that just seams beyond my choice, its dificult enough just getting 'out'.
hmmmmmmmmm.

Rivergoddess,

I have a similar frustration: all the times I have projected, I have been almost paralyzed while out of body. I tend to feel like I am being 'floated' around by a force I have no control over, and I cannot move my body...

I think this might be because even though I am 'out', my mind does not allow me to control my energy body because it is still connected in some way to my still and sleeping physical body, and it believes it is under the same constraints as that physical body...

I wish I could overcome this!



U.

It's funny how certain people think I can't see them in the dark when I'm aping. I CAN see you. Mind you, some of the things I see are an eye sore.

hey "awesomeade" im on the mysticweb course too!

hey "therivergoddess" can i ask you a few questions? I have had some OBE but only via lucid dreaming... and i want to control my method of induction instead of going via the lucid dreaming way...although it has given some amazing results

how long does it take for your vibrations to come along? because it takes me absolutly aeeegiss!

or how long does it take for you to go deep enough to attempt an exit?

thanks for your time!

The vibrations come when I am on the very edge of sleep.......if I am not wary and attentive I will just go into sleep.
I am now, always villigent about listening for the vibratory noise, wich now seams like an invitaion to FLY.

[edit on 1-2-2005 by theRiverGoddess]

Can anyone please provide some down to earth , simple techniques i can do to get out once i read the vibes... or at least techniques to prolong the vibes ???

My Personal Ideal Conditions for (Quality Control) APing:

Limit exposure to tv, computer
No meds/smoking
Limit alcohol consumption
Sleep well
Regular massages (could loosen up more than just physical body)
Lots of green veggie consumption
Limit sweets
Stay positive (very important or you can attract negs or be tricked)

That's all I can think of right now.

Originally posted by Questor
My Personal Ideal Conditions for (Quality Control) APing:

Limit exposure to tv, computer
No meds/smoking
Limit alcohol consumption
Sleep well
Regular massages (could loosen up more than just physical body)
Lots of green veggie consumption
Limit sweets
Stay positive (very important or you can attract negs or be tricked)

That's all I can think of right now.

no i meant , once the vibes are felt, the simplest way (i know people ahve different favorite methoods) you know of to get out og the body.

I just would like to know how to have a OOBE... Do you have to concentrate on something?? Do you have to meditate? Or an OOBE is just by accident?

Is an OOBE a flashback of one of our past lifes?

Thanks for an explication