Americans Prep For Gun Bans, Chaos, Terrorism, Civil Unrest, Economic Collapse

One other thing I might mention...

Never in my life have I heard so many people say they are 'scared', 'frightened', or 'anxious' about the future as they are now. Even in the military, my coworkers and associates echo these sentiments.

Speaking with my Father the other day about his pawn shop, he told me that he can't keep guns on the shelves, they sell out that fast. He asks people, just to make small talk, if they're buying a firearm for hunting, enthusiast shooting, defense, etc... and lately, he told me almost all of them are saying they are afraid of what's on the horizon.


It's seems like everywhere there is a very negative mood and vibe. No one greets each other anymore or even makes eye contact and the slight nod.

Almost like a collective 'uh-oh, here it comes'...

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I can't see Obama doing anything pro-actively. It's one thing to support a bill that someone else has to enforce, and a completely different thing to propose and be blamed for such restrictions yourself.
He won't act on guns, yet.
But if a group goes a little too seriously in the wrong direction, it might force his hand.

There are many that would like nothing more than the Obama administration to make some ridiculous move (I'm holding out all hope that they don't)....depending on the circumstances, it would mean the end of this country in it's current configuration...trends and events are pointing to an American balkanization anyway...and I truly think this administration just won't be able to help themselves...Unfortunately, IMHO, they will do something remarkably stupid that will set the whole thing off

Originally posted by GuiltyByDesign

Almost like a collective 'uh-oh, here it comes'...

Many of my latest posts address just that feeling...and the people that I do business with are the ones that are usually calm , cool and collected...we're all in the middle of some sort of multi generational paradigm shift here....and it's not very comfortable

Originally posted by RolandBrichter

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I can't see Obama doing anything pro-actively. It's one thing to support a bill that someone else has to enforce, and a completely different thing to propose and be blamed for such restrictions yourself.
He won't act on guns, yet.
But if a group goes a little too seriously in the wrong direction, it might force his hand.

There are many that would like nothing more than the Obama administration to make some ridiculous move (I'm holding out all hope that they don't)....depending on the circumstances, it would mean the end of this country in it's current configuration...trends and events are pointing to an American balkanization anyway...and I truly think this administration just won't be able to help themselves...Unfortunately, IMHO, they will do something remarkably stupid that will set the whole thing off

I'd be willing to bet it'll be Joe Biden opening his rather large mouth and exposing something ahead of time

This country has been controlled by fear for a long time.... I'm approaching the age of 60 and have seen this fear all of my life, what is going on behind this wall of fear that they don't want us to see?

Originally posted by projectvxn
Indeed. SilverState Arms is rationing 1 box of 9mm per customer per day. So I decided my next gun is going to be a Walther P22 because .22 LR is still commonly available. And the p22 is the only .22 that has never jammed up on me.

It might be the ammo You are using. I bought a GSG-5 rifle about 3 months ago and it jammed and stove piped all the time with remington ammo. I then tried some federal ammo in the blue box and I never had a problem with miss fires or stove piping. I think .22LR is a very finicky ammo and I won't just buy about anything out there to feed my gun.

Originally posted by hypervigilant
This country has been controlled by fear for a long time.... I'm approaching the age of 60 and have seen this fear all of my life, what is going on behind this wall of fear that they don't want us to see?

Very interesting question!....I've simply decided not to fear the fear anymore....F*#% them, let'm come and get me....and what I've found is that it's just one big thought experiment....all bark and no bite...but now it feels like they've figured out that they need to make some "examples" of some of us...to perpetuate the fear....there was a movie back in the mid 90's called "Henry Bergeron" or something of the sort...very interesting similarities to current events....

Thirty years ago there a survivalist article in "Mother Earth News" that strong advocated stocking up on .22 L.R. rounds for taking small game to barter with as well. The author was quite convincing that they would become currency during hard times.... Did you know that more deer are taken by .22 Cal. rifles than any other rifle. It is the poachers choice, due to its low noise signature.

Well We might possibly see another civil war. The bills congress has been trying to rush through is horrendous. They are trying to take our guns, tax smokers to oblivion, tax us to oblivion, carbon taxes, calling us extremist & terrorist, &socialized healthcare that will cost me mucho money. I just wonder if they know their time has come and are trying to piss off people as much as possible. The sad thing is they don't get the point. When the going was good no one watched what they were doing and they got away with murder. Now that the economy is going south with a possible currency collapse people are watching them like hawks. Don't these idiots realize its not business as usual anymore and people are watching. One day they " Federal Government " will push to far and the proverbial straw that broke the camels back will cause the middle class to go ape feces. I wouldn't be surprised if next year we start hearing of tax protests and people refusing to pay taxes. I would love to see the day that everyone just refuses to pay taxes because what are they going to do then?

reply to post by RolandBrichter

All the more reason to maintain a cool head. Don't let them manipulate you with emotional issues, be practical and don't show your hand. They are very clever bastards and have a lot of sociological and psychological information just like they use to make people buy things that they don't need or believe that there is a difference between the two political parties or that we had a bullet proof economy.

I live in Texas (not rural), and I have to say I haven't noticed an uptick of fear or general unease about anything other than the economy, and at least here in Texas even that's not that bad (I think all of our major metro areas are top performers in the economy right now).

Is this a rural thing, or perhaps something happening in states hardest hit by the recession? Just wondering, because I spent some time in Houston and Austin, and I live in Dallas, and I've yet to hear of anyone saying they're buying guns and ammunition because they are afraid of what's on the horizon...Well, I did see a billboard in Ft. Worth for a gun show, but that's about it, and Ft. Worth always has gun shows going on.

reply to post by Avenginggecko


I live in a large metro area of Florida (that's as specific as I like to get at the moment), but am from a very rural area in the north part of the state, and I've been hearing from scared people for a few months now from both regions. As well as my aunt and her friends in Atlanta and a former coworker in San Diego.

Maybe you Texans are just a bit more fearless than the rest of us

(I'd believe it, you guys are intense, just save me some brisket if I end of having to move there)

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


Atlanta is a flipping mess... was just out there a few weeks ago, like to get the "vibe" for each area I travel to....I mix in really well, and I manage to get very honest opinions from most regarding these issues, without showing my hand....Atlanta is a potential powder keg..as is Columbia, SC and Minneapolis, WI...but nowhere near Southern California....at least by my observation....Texas seems very tranquil by comparison..( economy still hanging on up there)

reply to post by SaturnFX

A vote in 2008 before the Supreme Court was if citizens should have
the right to bear arms.

As if the 2nd amendment was optional.

It passed by 5 to 4, and thus with ppl stepping down from the
Court and the Liberal crowd making the appointment I think
you can do the math.

The assault weapons ban is to be renewed and made worse,
and the Blair Holt bill is coming as well as a new international
treaty on guns to back door the house and senate.

Toss in the ammunition accountability act just for fun.

So while you are cute and funny, you have not been paying attention.


[edit on 23-5-2009 by Ex_MislTech]

reply to post by RolandBrichter

For any of the ppl on this forum that thinks this is not happening
you need to read this.

In 90 days US citizens buy enough guns to outfit ALL the Chinese and Indian militaries

In 90 days...outfit the two largest armies on Earth....

I hate to say it, but there is a storm coming.

There have been some interesting reports on this in the last month. Apparentley the shortages have come in waves since the Clinton days when people feared gun bans, and the current shortage is due to inability of manufacturers to make enough to sell. That would explain rationing. I'm seeing an Orlando LEO and he said the hysteria is pure nonsense, they are not anticipating any kind of social unrest, gun seizures or other pandemonium and he pretty much lives for anxiety so if anyone would notice it would be him. It all is starting to sound like hype to drive up weapons sales and permits, those are big moneymakers and states really need the money.

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And that would be my first thought, and i think there is some truth that the panic is feeding on itself....but I'm work with LEO's all day everyday...from all over the country....and most of them are very concerned to say the least....

I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again, imagine they pass a law banning ALL handguns tomorrow. All of them. No more handguns, period.

Who in the HECK is going to collect them?

Most neighbors I have (I live in Utah) have said they'd turn in their ammo one round at a time.

Police going around to collect?
Military?
Obunda's new secret police?
The BSA?
If it's the girl scouts I would consider turning in my gun for thin mints -boy I love those cookies-

Trying to remove handguns from the American populace would be the same thing as a tofu ban in Southern Cal.
Unrealistic at best.

So relax ATS'ers.

00.02

reply to post by detachedindividual


this isn't the only reply that has fear buying being the cause of recent rash of ammo purchases. i want to say that it isn't a rush it has been consistant purchasing that has lead to the bare shelves of ammo. people have been buying up for a while and not because we have a black president! some people think we have are heads up are ass because we arn't doing anything(hardly raising our voice ect.) about the law that are being so retartedly being passed. well think again. we the people said no bailouts and they passed,and we say this and we vote for that but they are only creating more of what we don't need and giving us none of what we really need.the silence one hears now is the calm before the storm i belive. i think they know this too. satan as but a sort time left!

reply to post by Ex_MislTech


perhaps we are being prepared for an invasion of sorts... but an unconventional one. in which we won't see the enemy land on the beaches or jump from the sky. those would be the reinforcements. the first wave will already be here.

p.s.
RolandBrichter, the greater memphis area seems like powder keg too.

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