Fear of prosecution caused Cheney to speak out, daughter says

Fear of prosecution caused Cheney to speak out, daughter says

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Vice President Dick Cheney decided to speak out after learning that President Barack Obama might open prosecutions of former Bush Administration officials, his daughter disclosed Thursday.
Elizabeth Cheney told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that her father decided to speak out after he learned there was a possibility of legal action.

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What Elizabeth is really saying is please don’t be to hard on my evil, demented father for lying to you all, about how he got us into two illegal wars and how he went about torturing innocent people to make them to confess to crimes that they never committed.
I find it appalling that Cheney would stoop so low to have his daughter come to his rescue. If Elizabeth had any sense, she would distant herself as far away she can and change her name.


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Originally posted by impressme
What Elizabeth is really saying is please don’t be to hard on my evil, demented father for lying to you all, about how he got us into two illegal wars and how he went about torturing innocent people to make them to confess to crimes that they never committed.
I find it appalling that Cheney would stoop so low to have his daughter come to his rescue. If Elizabeth had any sense, she would distant herself as far away she can and change her name.

I know. But here's a question. If Obama is indeed going to do that, then who is he? Or to be precise, who is he really working for? Kinda unprecedented don't you think?

He will have plenty of time to state his case before the jury. Coming on national TV only raises more questions. He is a person who historically never said much, so him taking to the air waves makes the general public even more angry.

In history Administrations have been accused by the media as well as new administrations of conduct unbecoming, and they have either been pardoned or the issue dropped as to not stir up further controversy about their actions or put a stain on the history of the White house that is to deep to bleach.

These actions the Bush administration is being accused of though are far to large to just go away. Obama clearly is attempting to not look back but the people are not going to allow that to happen. I think the reason is simple, and that is, if we allow these things to go un punished it opens the door for Tyranny.

It is up to the justice department to prosecute any crimes of the Bush Cheney administration. Obama has made it clear that no one is above the law.

Originally posted by impressme
It is up to the justice department to prosecute any crimes of the Bush Cheney administration. Obama has made it clear that no one is above the law.

I have more faith in our FIAT currency than I do the justice department.

Nail Cheney to the wall. The fact that his daughter is now coming out and begging and blubbering is pathetic. This pig #ed up so much about that was good about this country and under his watch our international reputation and virtually every domestic element the government touches has been #ed. He has the blood of hundreds of Americans and entire thousands of Iraqis and other "brown people" on his hands. And his #ing daughter is coming out and crying to Hannity. Electric chair this mother#er please.

I hope that Halliburton contract was worth it Cheney.

I'm tired of this nonsense...i'm sick of all of these freakin liars that run amok in our government.

We've got to start getting these lifelong politicians out of office...get the millionares out.....cripes get someone who actually cares about their country and not their damn pockets.

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Vote your neighbor into congress that should be our next popular movement. Pick some guy in your town that is just an average joe that has an opinion and is willing to stand his/her ground. Vote an ATS member to congress.

Originally posted by impressme
It is up to the justice department to prosecute any crimes of the Bush Cheney administration. Obama has made it clear that no one is above the law.

Does that include himself? Because last I checked he has broken a few contract laws.

Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
Nail Cheney to the wall. The fact that his daughter is now coming out and begging and blubbering is pathetic. This pig #ed up so much about that was good about this country and under his watch our international reputation and virtually every domestic element the government touches has been #ed. He has the blood of hundreds of Americans and entire thousands of Iraqis and other "brown people" on his hands. And his #ing daughter is coming out and crying to Hannity. Electric chair this mother#er please.

Exactly, because the U.S. government was so efficient before Bush hit the scene. I mean we were number one in education, health, and social security wasn't a ponzi scheme...everything was perfect

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I know this is not going to win me alot of friends on this board but here is my take on this situation.

For most of the Bush/Cheney administration there were very few attempts by the administration itself to defends its actions, This was unfortunately left up to the spinmeisters on talk radio and other media. I do not know if this was an agreed upon strategy amongst the administration or just a failure to communicate to the American and World public why they undertook such actions.

It is now it is 2009 and we have another administration who are talking about investigations and war crimes trials and what have you. Cheney's name seems to always be on the tip of the tongue when discussing these investigations trials and what have you. Wether you like Cheney or not, I feel he has the right to speak out and make his case just as his opponents did while he was in office. I also feel that it is wrong for the present administration to selectively release legal memos that only show one side of what was happening.

This is more play acting and role playing and good cop bad cop stuff.

They are all in it together yet they think we're too dumb to figure it out.

Like i've said before, they all have the same agenda and this is all an act.

They're embarrasing themselves.

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We've got to start getting these lifelong politicians out of office...

here! here!

get the millionares out.....cripes get someone who actually cares about their country and not their damn pockets.

The skeptic in me says it wouldn't be long before even such a person succumbed to the bribes, gifts, dinners and favours of the guys with the money and deep pockets. Short terms would help to minimize that problem tho.

White House Aide: “Do the orders still stand?”

Dick Cheney: “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!?"

That's all I need to hear.

Coming from a perspective of another country, I am seeing a lot of "patriotism" being injected into this argument where it is only serving to clouds ones judgment about the true facts. Take a step back Americans, and view this whole episode through the eyes of someone from another country. Seriously, all I can see is "They deserved torture cause America is the greatest HOW DARE THEY!" and "How dare anyone question the might and authority of the United States?"


To this I say one thing: Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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I also feel that it is wrong for the present administration to selectively release legal memos that only show one side of what was happening.

Hummm well, if Cheney had not destroyed all of his records and the CIA had not destroyed all of their torture tapes; maybe we could see the other side. Do you think that would make it look better for them?

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Did Cheney destroy all of his records? You have a source for that? As far as torture tapes being destroyed I read about that somewhere, and i wouldnt mind having those released myself.

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Sorry my bad! No Cheney didn’t destroy all his records however he made sure no one will ever have access to them.

Cheney to keep vice presidential records, will not allow them to go to Bush library ‘for now.’

The Dallas Morning News reports that “for now,” former Vice President Dick Cheney’s records will not be going to the George W. Bush presidential library at Southern Methodist University. Cheney’s team said the former VP needs them to write his memoirs. “It made more sense and was more convenient to keep them in D.C.,” said a Cheney spokesperson. The secrecy even appears to extend to Cheney’s artifacts and gifts:

As Vice President, Cheney ordered the Secret Service to destroy records of his visitor logs

thinkprogress.org...

What Cheney is doing with his records is not unusual most presidents and vice presidents do the same until they are sent to the Presidential libraries.
President Obama can declassify any CIA or Previous administration documents just like he did with the legal memos. Why should he now hesistate to release the documents Cheney is asking be released?

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President Obama can declassify any CIA or Previous administration documents just like he did with the legal memos. Why should he now hesistate to release the documents Cheney is asking be released?

What? Those are CIA documents they are NOT Cheney’s records.
Obama does not have access to Cheney’s records. I repeat, Cheney took all of them with him. Stop shifting gears on me.

Cheney has the right to keep his VP records the court has said he has the right to do so as has the National Archivist. The records are not destroyed. What do you expect to find in Cheneys personal records that cannot be found in the CIA or legal memos. Those are the classified records that are in dispute in this situation not Cheneys personal records.

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