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Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before saying its torture

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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Conservative radio hosts gets waterboarded, and lasts six seconds before saying its torture


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Chicago radio host Erich "Mancow" Muller decided he'd get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn't torture.

It didn't turn out that way. "Mancow," in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul. Apparently, the experience went pretty badly -- "Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop," according to NBC Chicago.
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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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So, I guess Sean Hannity is next? I wonder if Sean would denounce it as torture if it was done to him. I know that he said he was going to do it for charity, but he has yet to do so. If Hannity says it's torture it could send a shockwave through the right wing, I think. I'm sure that despite it being torture he may still say it's needed for national security. Many right-wing hosts have different perspectives on this, some even say that the terrorists have no right under the Geneva Convention because they weren't in uniform.

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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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Line up all the conservatives talk show hosts one by one. Hannity first, then Limbaugh, then O'Reily. This is hilarious, I wonder if there's a YouTube of this anywhere. Who hears the graphic descriptions of waterboarding, all the uproar about it, and is stupid enough to say "That's not torture, do it to me?" I don't know what's funnier the fact that these people deny it or the fact that this guy crumbled so fast.

[edit on 22-5-2009 by CuriousSkeptic]


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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Yeah all those who are cavalier about torture obviously haven't had it happen to them... think about it though... waterboarding simulates drowning... having come close to drowning a couple of times in my life and I can say without equivocation that it is a terrifying experience and even if you know that you aren't drowning... your body doesn't and will react like it does... with panic.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by yellowcard

Many right-wing hosts have different perspectives on this, some even say that the terrorists have no right under the Geneva Convention because they weren't in uniform.


They don't. If you're caught fighting in as an insurgent, you can be treated as a war criminal. It's all spelled out in the Geneva Convention.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Didn't that British guy last 7 seconds?


Waterboarding = Torture.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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wow now that is a very good idea to get ratings

i want to watch sean hannity do it!!


wow this has the potential to beat oprah

if hes doing it for charity , does that mean its pay per view?


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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by kommunist
Didn't that British guy last 7 seconds?


Waterboarding = Torture.


Christopher Hitchens? Yes, I think it was around seven seconds. In an interview afterwards, he described what appears to be post-traumatic anxiety during sleep--if I remember clearly, a panic and feeling of suffocation that overtakes him at times during rest, as a result of the seconds-long waterboarding session.

I'm just stunned that this is even a point of argument. It should be clear to any sane person that this is indeed torture. If you want to argue that the torture of detainees is justified, fine; but to suggest that it isn't torture at all? Nonsense.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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"Enhanced Interegation Techniques"= torture. Guess what? They did it to us during Viet Nam, and we did it to them. It is torture, but it is nothing compared to what the Egyptians did when we turned some prisoners over to them, and it is nothing compared to what I would do if I needed to get information from these SOB's that attacked my country or conducted terrorists activities against Americans.
These prisoners don't know what torture is. Yet!



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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I was just thinking the other day, none of these commentators know anything about waterboarding.

Now one of them does.

S&F



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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While were at it do it to Pelosi too!

Makes you wonder if this guy gave up after 6 seconds, he probably would have said anything for them to stop, more proof that tactics like this dont always work, you would say anything to get them to stop.
I know alot of people would say, but what if the guy was really a terrorist? Does doing this to 1 terrorist justify doing it to 99 other people who are not terrorist?


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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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Here's the video:



Glad to see the guy being extremely honest afterwards.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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heres an interesting video with keith olbermann going on about it

im not saying im a fan of any of these pundits, but i do follow their insanities

im non partisan but i agree, water boarding sounds pretty nasty

mr olbermann is basically saying hannity wont do it






"1000$ to charity for every second you last!"



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by grover
Yeah all those who are cavalier about torture obviously haven't had it happen to them... think about it though... waterboarding simulates drowning... having come close to drowning a couple of times in my life and I can say without equivocation that it is a terrifying experience and even if you know that you aren't drowning... your body doesn't and will react like it does... with panic.


So you're obviously cavalier about terrorism then since you don't give a damn whether or not we get information out of captured men that could possibly prevent an attack on one of our cities.

Let's see - torture a terrorist who will live from the experience or watch a building full of innocent people go down just to satisfy your moral compass.

Nice. I can honestly say from the standpoint of an American born IN America who honestly loves his country that all of you who would rather treat these men like they are on some kind of vacation that all of you are truly disgusting individuasl - you would rather these reprehensible men be treated with flowers and daisies while your own countrymen die.

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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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We are a nation of laws that is what is supposed to make us different from the rest of the world... we willingly signed the Geneva conventions and we have not withdrawn from them... therefore like it or not they are the law of the land... and they define water boarding as torture... hence we broke the law.

BTW I willingly served my country... and I resent your insinuation that just because I my opinion on this differs from yours that somehow I don't love my country.

Did you serve or are you one did you like Cheney have other things to do and is instead another arm chair blow hard warrior?

[edit on 22-5-2009 by grover]



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Just because Mancow is a wussy does not mean waterboarding is torture.


Waterboarding is NOT torture.
IF it was torture, then I guess the military tortures it's own troops since it is part of their training.
IF it was torture, that Shiek fellow would be dead since he got the treatment something like 83 times.

Waterboarding is mental and not physical. Apparently Mancow is not mentally tough.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by grover
We are a nation of laws that is what is supposed to make us different from the rest of the world... we willingly signed the Geneva conventions and we have not withdrawn from them... therefore like it or not they are the law of the land... and they define water boarding as torture... hence we broke the law.


To bad the Geneva Conventions does not apply to the terrorists. Please show me where Al Quaida & the Taliban signed them.


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posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
Let's see - torture a terrorist who will live from the experience or watch a building full of innocent people go down just to satisfy your moral compass.


Those buildings went down because they were rigged. We're the ones going around starting wars with countries for no good reason, carpet bombing their innocent civilians, and abducting and torturing people. You don't see ANY similarities to Nazi Germany there? Or never heard how history repeats itself? The longer it takes for you to see this stuff, the less chance we all have, though I'm pretty convinced our country is already screwed.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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wow. just shows how idiotic they are.

hahaha



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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Do you think if mancow had any sensitive information he would have told us?



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