US: Census idiot in my driveway threatening the police

I can find out your GPS co-ordinates using Google Earth, that shows everyahh ahhhh, it just dawned on me, they want front door in case of raids, terrorism, and shyt like that. Google Earth may show houses, but does not show front doors. sneaky buggers your government

reply to post by Ron Paul Girl


I agree with your problem with the census taker, but why harvest sour grapes over Obama winning the election like that? That's a bit misguided, don't you think? He didn't invent the census.

Despite my best efforts to not respond to this thread, I could not resist.

1. What if you simply were not home when this occurred?
This would all be a moot point.

2. You might be more concerned about the info avail by your Computer IP address.

3. Check out Google Earth. You could probably find a picture of your house.

4. The blow-by-blow account was hilarious. And as mentioned by others, the timeline suspect. You interchanged the terms Police and Sheriff. They are clearly two separate agencies with diverse jurasdiction.

5. You made several attempts to become partisan. ( Obama and Michael Moore references.) Diminishes objectivity.

In the future event of a "crisis", I highly suggest you prioritize protecting the children you say were in the house rather than striving to be a "live" on-line internet reporter.

By the way, I'd sure hate to be your local Pizza delivery boy. If you don't shoot them in the face first, I at least hope you're a big tipper.

Kudos to the many objective voices of reason who responded.

DENY IGNORANTS. (sic)

Regards...Kinda Kurious


[edit on 22-5-2009 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by iforget
reply to post by Starseed32

 

Census has not begun, they are not asking for information at this time. At face value they are recording the location of every front door in America, via GPS, in order to facilitate the upcoming census.

This will undermine the conspiracy theory and stop the residents from shooting up the area, how dare you speak the truth here.(Sarcasm)

I can certainly understand the resistance to GPS-ing the front door for privacy reasons, but quite frankly I think it is a little silly. If the big bad government wanted you, they'd get you.

Now, say there was catastrophic flooding, and they want to pinpoint where to send the most resources? They can determine which dwellings are below the flood level, and approximate how many citizens are affected by that.

Occam's Razor strikes again. It has nothing to do with some evil empire launching a bunker buster at your door - there are better technologies for that than GPS. It has much more to do with providing more efficient and accurate government services including disaster relief and rescue.

I think it is a good thing that paranoid types resist this, because it helps establish a good balance of power. Personally though, I don't see the problem with taking the GPS of a dwelling entrance. Now if they wanted to inject GPS transponders into our person something? Well, that is an entirely different story!

reply to post by Ron Paul Girl


I'm only to page two....and just had to say somethin'....please don't be offended.

It is highly unlikely that a 'Census Jerk' is "tagging" your (or anyone's) front door with GPS co-ordinates. As others have pointed out, your address is sufficient to find you, IF their intent was to drop a bomb in your direction....

People seem to think that GPS is magical....the truly accurate units are reserved for Military use, their exact precision is classified. Some 'yahoo' going door-to-door with a hand-held unit of some sort isn't any more threatening than your UPS or FedEx delivery guy!!

Everything I've heard about it is they hired bozos to do the preliminary grunt and leg work for the actual census-taking in 2010. Give some out-of-work former ne're-do-well a "badge" and it goes to his head....nothing else to see here!

Consumer-grade GPS is only good to within a few feet accuracy. As I said, anything more accurate is A), classified and B), very expensive!! Not likely to be entrusted to a "Census Idiot"!

BTW....ever consider people who live in large apartment buildings, or Condos?? WHY would it ever be necessary to identify (even if they were doing it) every door????

Oh, yeah....I forgot. It's that 'evil genie' Obama. He wants to know EXACTLY where every 300 million people live, becuse his brain is so large he can remember them all...


EDIT to ADD: PS...do you have a Back Door????



[edit on 5/22/0909 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by nydsdan


Hey, dsdan? Do you own a cellphone? If you do, and if it's on your person, you already have a crude GPS 'transponder' identifying your whereabouts right now.

I have one of those cheap pay-as-you-go Virgin phones ($15 at Target)...and, even IT has the 'option' to turn off the location tracker.

Cells use a combination of cell tower actiivty, proximity, and crude GPS in order to follow the phone. Presumably, it is for advertising and 'convenience' purposes. But, if you commit a crime and 'they' know your number, can be used to zero in your rough location.

I'll just throw in that a census lady came to the door a few weeks ago. She just handed me a piece of paper and walked away - didn't ask how many people lived in the house.

During the last census, I just filled in the number of people, and sent the form back. One of their minions came by, and wanted the rest of the information. He tried to tell me that I was required to answer the questions. I informed him that he was misinformed, the Constitution only mandated a enumeration of the people, I would give him the rest of the information once they pass an Amendment that required the other information, and to get off the property.

He wasn't happy. They never are.

Mine was a little different and happened a few weeks ago.

I was out in my little garden at the side of the house. We have a fence, the gates were locked and the dog was out.

I noticed a lady in an SUV going really slow up the street. She got even with my yard and then pulled forwad a little, stopped, backed up, stopped right in the middle of the road.

She had her window down and I wasn't sure what was up, if she was having car trouble, lost or what so I yelled, "Hi, Are you OK?" She looked a little startled - I guess she hadn't seen me and yelled back, "Yes sir, I'm just getting information for the census. Thanks." Then she drove off.

She never did try to come in the drive - she just stopped in the street about even with the middle of the yard.

A last post for the sake of clarity.

The census hasn't begun. That's why the census guy is not asking questions.

The GPS tag referred to is NOT a physical device left on your property. The
gov worker hits an "X-marks-the-spot" on his device and links it to your
address.

Feel free to treat the census guy any way you wish, but employ a little
empathy--he is an everyman, probably laid off, taking a job he doesn't
like or want, with four hours training and a quick pat on the ass to get him
moving out the door.

I am very wary of the Federal Gov't using a GPS device in regards to my home. They can walk up the driveway and ask how many people live at my address, that's it. GPS - go away. I don't trust any of them, this is a non-partisan mistrust on my part. I would feel this way if Bush were still in there.

We have 10's of millions of **illegal** aliens roaming freely in this country and the Feds are suddenly worried about the exact
gps location of my front door?


** illegal means they broke the law

Dont see the problem, theyre just marking your house, you can find your house in any phone book or hell using google. No big deal. It is weird the guy wanted the front door, maybe he's taking it a little too seriously, In front of the house is fine (hell a lot of houses are on google streetview anyway)

reply to post by rival


Exactly!!!

I can go to Radio Shack, buy a Garmin or TomTom GPS hand-held, and go to the front of any home I wish and enter it as a 'waypoint' to mark the location. Anyone can...there simply isn't anything nefarious about it.

Originally posted by Starseed32
This is very interesting about these census agents. First, I find it weird that they are starting so early. I mean, if they are trying to get info from people now for the 2010 census, don't they think that by 2010 that many of these people that they have questioned so far would have moved to another location? I feel that even someone coming to the door and "asking how many people live here" is very dangerous. I would become very suspicious about this! I would much rather get something in the mail to answer and mail back then to tell some stranger off the street that I might live alone or not.
I feel that there is more going on than meets the eye!
A couple of weeks ago, my daughters friend came down and asked if I saw the guy walking around the neighborhood wearing all black with a black cap on looking at each house and writing something down. I didn't see him but it made me very nervous for all of the kids in the neighborhood that were playing outside at the time. What is he gathering by just looking at the houses as he walks down the street? Nobody has come to the door yet but I will be watching from here on out.

This is simple. THE CURRENT CENSUS TAKERS ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY PERSONAL INFO. The only thing the workers in this phase of the census are responsible for is logging addresses correctly, to make sure all newly built homes/apts. are in the system for MAILING, and to ascertain whether said residence is occupied. They don't care who or how many live there. They don't care if you're holding a satanic blood sacrifice when they come around; it's not like they are going to say oh, so that is one less that lives here now. Addresses and occupied/not occupied. That's ALL.

their not putting nothing on you door all it's is a hand held computer they stand at you door enter you address they press a button and saves the GPS position to the address

and ron paul girl you only putting a target on you back by doing what you did ... you can hate the govenment all you want but stay low key about it

I'll bet the GPS coordinate is to give to the black triangles, so they know where to hover and where to spy over.

Ronpaulgirl - be watching that sky!

These GPS tagging guys have had me thinking, why would they need to do this? I really don't understand, GPS?!

I was thinking it could be a 'tag' that could be scanned from the street that could give information on your household? Im guessing legally, it could be how many people live there? Illegally, it could be anything really.

So police just drive past and scan the house, or the census does?

They do really need to count how many people live in the US though, don't forget, it's you who will be paying the bill, they need to know how much of a dent you can make in their deficit! They need to figure out their monthly payments before the FED will lend them anymore money! Lol

EMM

[edit on 22-5-2009 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]

Originally posted by GreenBicMan
why does he have to GPS tag your door?

There has been a thread on this topic before. I believe that some speculate that the reason for GPS -Tagging doors is to more easily locate potential political dissidents (yet moving is very easy to do). Other reasons are to update/improve the system by which the census is taken.

See this thread: Census GPS-tagging your home's front door

And this: Census GPS- tagging your home's front door

From the preceeding link:

"a census employee does not have to honor "No Trespassing" signs. It is their job to determine if a residence is there, whether of course the people like it or not. So that is a downfall. Nevertheless, with all the bitc#$%^ about the Constitution, a census is probably one of the few things left that is Constitutional, as it is written in the Constitution that ever so many years a National Census will be taken to determine the population of the Nation."

Also, google "GPS tagging your front door" or something similar. There are all kinds of hypotheses as to "why."

A few more links i googled:

census gps tagging your home's front door 1

GPS Tagging 2

reply to post by Ron Paul Girl


This is a "pre-census" jerk who probably was a hireling of IBM which got the contract to GPS all human abodes in the country. This does two things...it gives employment to all those Obamamites who helped put "the man" in office. Secondly it gives a mark for where to send the Obama Civilian Corps to come when they confiscate all your guns and ammo. It could alternatively be used to direct the military drones to attack you should you not "willingly" give the guns to the nice government man. Any one wanting to know about IBM's sordid Nazi past with the census, check out this article:

www.prisonplanet.com...

My prediction is you have not heard the last of this. I imagine you will be receiving a call from a supervisor who will threaten you with federal prosecution if you don't "willingly co-operate"...I had this done to me several decades ago when I refused to give them answers to personal questions. They are more bold and insistant now and you have already been flaged as a troublemaker. They have to make examples of citizens like you to encourage the sheeple to "willingly co-operate" with their goons. Good luck!