New NASA STS-75 video-UFOs over Mexico

reply to post by Phage


Thanks for posting that. I figured it'd have to be a sat and not a plane due to it's apparent velocity, but wasn't aware they orbit them within the shuttle's orbital sphere.
Must be fun plotting launch paths. Kinda like merging onto the freeway only the cars move rather quickly, can barely be seen before it's too late and the lanes are unmarked, not to mention you're navigating in 3D rather than 2D.

reply to post by 4N6310

Nah. Much easier than a freeway merge. Even though there's a lot of stuff up there it doesn't change lanes, speed, or get drunk. If you know where it is now, you know where it will be when it's time to merge.

It appears Mr. Stubbs has been busy posting all sorts of NEW video from the STS-75 mission. What a guy...

I have located the video that goes with the following image (posted earlier) and which has within its contents a discussion wherein the voices can clearly be heard identifying an object. Eventually a more experienced astronaut comments that it was just the "camera filter"



The video goes with this image:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3b9740f0f20b.jpg[/atsimg]

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reply to post by BrawleR


Is it really 'dark'? Why couldn't the shuttle be in sunlight and the dot is a small nearby object?

A note about this STS-75 mission:

The tether that we saw being swarmed by UFOs in this mission was not a new tether. NASA actually decided to use the tether that had previously broken on STS-46 - this eventually resulted in the loss of a $100 million satellite.... even though NASA had a new tether that was meant for this mission - they used the old one.

This news was admitted by the "science team" at a press conference immediately after the tether broke and the satellite was lost - But they have kept pretty quiet about it ever since . Here is the conference:




NASA also failed to install a circuit breaker and adequate insulation as they thought the power output of the tether would be minimal - which put our Astronauts lives at risk and contributed to mission failure..

The board found that the arcing burned away most of the tether material at that location, leading to separation of the tether from tensile or pulling force. The break occurred when approximately 12.2 miles (19.7 km) of tether was unreeled, in a period when the tether was experiencing normal stresses of approximately 15 pounds (65 newtons).

In addition to the two primary causes for the tether break, the board cited, as one contributing factor, that "the degree of vulnerability of the tether insulation to damage was not fully appreciated." The board noted that the actual environment that the tether was exposed to in flight made it more vulnerable to damage than was expected. And, it noted that the high voltages under which the system was operating could, over a period of time, have reduced the ability of the tether insulation to withstand electrical breakdown due to contamination found in the tether.

www.thelivingmoon.com...


Arcing damage to panel.... Should've used that circuit breaker.



Here is the Arcing in Progress...



*STS-75 sure was one exciting failure of a mission! Perhaps the debris that result from these acts of incompetence/negligence could perhaps produce objects that may possibly be interpreted as a UFO...


(thanks to Zorgon and the folks at Pegasus for hosting these images and data - and most importantly Thanks to Mr. Stubbs or making all this possible.)


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Here is another interesting image from the STS-75 mission.

I wonder what that object at the top of the image might be?

A UFO perhaps!

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/035795d44ee0.jpg[/atsimg]

Originally posted by Exuberant1
A note about this STS-75 mission:

The tether that we saw being swarmed by UFOs in this mission was not a new tether. NASA actually decided to use the tether that had previously broken on STS-46 - this eventually resulted in the loss of a $100 million satellite.... even though NASA had a new tether that was meant for this mission - they used the old one.

Exubie, try listening to the video more carefully, and reviewing space history more carefully, to avoid looking foolish again in the future.

The first tether did not break.

You said it did. You are wrong. All documented reference materials show you are wrong.

You just made up that part about the first tether breaking, out of some fantasy.

The official described how the first tether was chosen for the second mission because it was in much better condition than the other tether which had been repeatedly reeled and unreeled in ground tests.

The only change was that the 1000-odd feet of that tether that had unreeled on the first mission, where the deployer jammed [the tether was rewound and the satellite safely retreived], was cut off, leaving the remaining unreled tether in pristine condition, ready for use on another mission.

That's what the official said. If you didn't undertsand it, work harder on your oral comprehension skills.

Why are you making the task of debunkers -- and mockers -- so darned easy?

reply to post by JimOberg


Additionally everybody may want to watch NASA official explanation about the
unfortunate incident of the tether breaking during STS-75. Here is the debriefing
by the astronauts themselves explaining step by step what really happened.
I find this explanation perfectly correct and accurate with the event clarifying
any doubts around it. Thether images beguin at minute 2:30.

www.nss.org...

NOTE: I'm not referring to any of the UFO incidents during the STS-75 nor the
objects in discussion around the broken tether. I'm just pointing out strictly the
causes of the thether to be broken.

Originally posted by JimOberg

You said it did. You are wrong. All documented reference materials show you are wrong.

Nice Try.

Please post excerpts from those external sources that you feel substantiate your claim that the Reused tether was in perfect working order and was properly insulated, not malfunct and Reused from STS-46. Be concise this time.

*As I did not see one in your reply to my previous posting - Have you determined a prosaic explanation that would account for what we see in this image? www.abovetopsecret.com...

Perhaps it is a UFO

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Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by JimOberg

You said it did. You are wrong. All documented reference materials show you are wrong.

Nice Try.

Please post excerpts from those external sources that you feel substantiate your claim that the Reused tether was in perfect working order and was properly insulated, not malfunct and Reused from STS-46. Be concise this time.

The link YOU provided shows the NASA official explaining this. You don't have to agree with his statements. But report them accurately.

Originally posted by Exuberant1


Nice Try.

...


*As I did not see one in your reply to my previous posting - Have you determined a prosaic explanation that would account for what we see in this image? www.abovetopsecret.com...

Perhaps it is a UFO

So -- you post a photo YOU claim is from STS-75 and demand an explanation -- without providing any context such as date, time, circumstance, eyewitess testimony... etc.

If you actually believe this is a fair challenge, we have no grounds even to argue.

reply to post by JimOberg


Please refrain from the off-topic dalliance and answer the following question:

*Have you determined a prosaic explanation that would account for what we see in this image from STS-75?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 17-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

another dog fight on ATS, what's new?!?!

I noticed something peculiar in the previously posted tether footage.

At 1:09 into this video you will notice an object entering the view near the top right-hand corner and moving from the top to the bottom of the frame in a diagonal path:



Perhaps it is a UFO

....Perhaps it is debris, or ice.

*Basically, We just don't have enough data to positively identify the object that enters the view at 1:09.

Given the amount of time that has elapsed between now and the time this object was filmed; it is doubtful that we will be able to gather more data than we already have in our possession..

Since we already know the acquired data is not sufficient to ascertain the identity of the 1:09 object; a reasonable determination is that this object is a UFO and will remain so - until Jim posts some conclusive and confirmatory evidence with regards to it's composition



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reply to post by Exuberant1


"At 1:09 into this video you will notice an object entering the view near the top right-hand corner and moving from the top to the bottom of the frame in a diagonal path:"

nice catch! it's amazing how fast these things move in space.

Anyone got a copy of the original vid in this thread that is not a youtube link? The server I'm on at work blocks youtube and I'd very much like to see this.

If that is possible thanks!!

reply to post by stevcolx


give me a few minutes...

try this ATS media

[edit on 18-5-2009 by ddacunha]

reply to post by Exuberant1


Is this a "doctered video " or what?
I've seen the Tether Incident video many times over the past 1.5 years, and never seen footage of the broken tether within the cargo bay of the shuttle!
Funny; the audio is unusually clear at this point too, in reference to all other audio.
Maybe its strange or sheltered that I've not seen it: seems suspicious that they would use a second hand/ second rate thether in the first place. What? Is the Space budget trying to save money?
An expensive satellite too, I believe.
The Bufoons, sitting around the newsdesk anouncing this, long after the fact is intriguing as well.

Thanks for that. But I noticed the video is 3.50 minutes long. And when I play it it stops at 1.14. Then it says 'Buffering' and doesn't go any further.

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by Exuberant1

 

Is this a "doctered video " or what?

What? Is the Space budget trying to save money?
An expensive satellite too, I believe.

The Bufoons, sitting around the newsdesk anouncing this, long after the fact is intriguing as well.

This video is newly released by Martyn Stubbs. (I'm lobbying to have the Governor General give him a commendation. He deserves recognition for his efforts )


Listen to the end of the video; the caller gets the the NASAman to admit that they did not use the new flight tether (referred to as 'spare' by the caller), but instead opted to Reuse the older 'qualification tether' from STS-46....

As trained, the NASAman makes his statements as obtuse as possible and purposely uses a different vernacular than the caller - to aid in the obfuscation. At 1:55 into the video, look at his face. He knows he is caught

Here is the caller's question followed by NASA's obfuscatory response. They have been transcribed below:

-Caller (Who's taxes fund NASA's operation):

"What was the rethink behind flying the same tether twice when you have a spare one that had never been used?"

-NASAman's Response:

"we had a qualification tether, uh, that uh, we had been using in ground testing and um, quite a lot of ground-testing. We felt like the flight tether, uh was in good shape. We took off the three hundred meters that we had used during the first mission and felt that the flight tether had fewer cycles on it than the qualification tether that we had in the test set-up."
*Cue 1:55 'I'm caught' facial expression*

Following this unsatisfactory, inconclusive and incoherent reply, The caller is forced to re-ask the question - albeit in a different manner and without the word "rethink".

-Caller:

"Was there ever any discussion or any consideration about flying the spare tether"

-NASAman's Response:

"Uh, Not to my knowledge."






*With this admission and the 1:09 UFO - this is quite the video. STS-75 just keeps getting more interesting...

Kriskali, what do you think of the 1:14 UFO from the OP's video?

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