Saw This Comic Strip Again Today, And Thought I'd Share

There should be more films about the slaughter of Native Americans.

Sadly, that mass genocide is ignored and long forgotten ...

I was asked if I could upload the strip, and display it here. Here it is.

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Concentration camps were nothing new by WWII.

Andersonville

80 Acres Of Hell

Pretty bad places. As I understand it, they were bad for a number of reasons but one is because at that time the governments didn't know what to do with that many people. That doesn't mean other governments hadn't done this before but they seemed either unwilling to do anything or couldn't. Really a lot of factors in why those camps were the way they were.

Also, these were not for the purpose of genocide but they had been around. Nasty places to end up at, the whole lot of them.

In essence, the Germans could have just read a book on our Civil War here to get the idea. Don't know the answer but they didn't come up with the idea, they just did it on a bigger scale than anyone else had.

Now that I've typed this up it's probably common knowledge around here and I'm just wasting space. Eh, whatever.

If you remember the fundimental reasons for the World War like the extermination of a type of people then you can add reason to the whole conflict that spread to most of the world. Many other people died because of the world war and many nations were involved and it all boiled down to an the ideology of extermination of another race. Had the Nazi's won then the Black skinned race and even the brown eyed white people would have been rated second class or even exterminated slowly.

To remember the Jews then is to open a reminder of how man can be evil to one self and also, it is a way to say no more and ward future tyrannies from occuring, but try telling Iran that.

reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II

It is quite profound and moving... and yes political extremism is still with us... when you see and hear some screaming bloody murder because someone they either disagree with or is somehow different than they are elected to office... you realize fanaticism is not so distant.

All it would take is a dramatic economic collapse or something like a return of the dust bowl... something to threaten our fat comfortable complacent existence and Americans would turn rabid in a heart beat... especially if some demagogue can blame it on the other in society.

reply to post by seagull


i happen to think we see the truth of your statement now more than ever.
i was created to inhabit the earth, not exist on it. my right to live is as great or greater than anybody else including the kings,queens,presidents and prime ministers. for government to require me to do anything goes against my grain. i am a very loving man,that is my purpose and strength.everything in my life materializes for this purpose.murder in any form including capitol punishishment, is aborant and exists because man or a group of men(government) think they have the right to execute this for crimes against another human.this the same as "you must go to this church or that church if you want to talk to god". government is gang theory and is thuggish and goes against what the creator intended and is what the fall is about and leading to destruction because men think it so moreso than the creator.there is nothing between the creator and myself.
don't kill me because god put me here.if one wants to kill,kill themselves!
point is i am sickend by the holocost of ww2 and any other cleansing whether it be in south america or south africa! facisim is very alive in america and the world and the cartoon is a good reminder of what could happen soon if we lest forget the past!

[edit on 15-5-2009 by bluewaterservant]

Probably the the sickest thing out of all this is that 65 years later so many sociopaths with the ability to type and a computer take the opportunity to deny, dismiss, or denigrate the Holocaust. Their fascination with methodical mass genocide eerily might be something they approve of in spirit.

So we get endless arguments about things like how there weren't enough gas chambers at concentration camps. Simple answers. Deaths were mainly at extermination camps, open bonfires of Jews in villages and towns where the Nazis supplied one bullet per head to local officials. Etc.

It's not so much about pitying Jews as our cold fish friends like to imply.

It's about how in the middle of the 20th Century a highly civilized Christian society can go mad and decide that murdering millions who lived among them all their lives can be routine.

Those reading this should be reminded there are people somewhere with the means and possibly motivation to arbitrarily decide to drag you from your home, exterminate you, your family, and everyone you know, just for being what you are.

50 years in the future, sickos will argue how it was your fault.


Mike



[edit on 16-5-2009 by mmiichael]

This could be one of the most thought provoking comics I've ever read.

And it's true to it's message too, we need reminding of what happened because if we forget, we are likely to let it happen again.

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85

True, but if you teach them at an early age what is right and wrong , then they will know better when they get older and not have to learn it then.

Plus we retain so much information at a young age that it would be a good idea to instill some right vs. wrong talk to a kid so he knows how not to be fooled later in life.

And I agree that the subject is teachable but consideration has to be given to how in depth compared to age. For me it was an adult sized material at around 8-9 years old including pictures. The comic shows the girl (aged 5 or so) in the clothes and in the camp indicating she is receiving information akin to placing herself there in his shoes. Notice how she is pulled up in a fetal position with the far away look in her eyes. Care should be given so not to traumatize while educating.

The idea of get them while they are young is also a key of propagandists as well. Notice that children at play are not overtly prejudiced until they are told that different races are "bad". The most you will see is a hesitation to someone that is "different" which goes away as soon as they realize that the other person just wants to play the same as they do.

The same thing happens when children are somewhat "scared" of men because they are raised by single mothers. Often times the mother will say in front of the child that they are "scared of men" and that is when it becomes a learned behavior. I encountered a similar reaction when I met a grand nephew of John Carlos a few years ago. I was one of the first white people he ever encountered up close and personal in his grandmother's backyard. By squatting down to his hight and explaining this to him about how when his mom, dad, grandma or anyone in his family said that a person was alright then you know it is safe because they love you and would never want to see you hurt. That was an experience that he will carry with him for a long time, even though he may not remember it due to his age. I had a somewhat similar experience with a full blooded Cherokee when I was a child except I didn't believe he was an "indian" because he looked like me except he was dressed up as an indian, years later I found out that that I am about 1/16 to 1/8 Cherokee from different sides of the family.

in summery, it is important to understand what is being taught and how it is perceived by the child. I saw more than I should have seen to be able to deal with it at the age that I was exposed to the Holocaust. For all I know, my own grandfather could have been part of the liberation forces. He never talked much of the war and only kept the medals that were awarded stateside in training with the exception of his Purple Heart. He threw away all combat awarded medals after the war.