Armed Revoultion Possible, Not So Difficult

reply to post by xxpigxx

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by xxpigxx

 

1. I don't know if you know this, but in this republic, it's "Majority rules." Majority in this instance is more than half, as half the people are divided by simple ideologies.

2. What rights have been taken away from you?

3. I'm not asking specific marks, I'm talking about who do you view as the enemy? Don't tell me it's just as simple as just "them." I would like to believe that someone who is talking as if he's going to partake in a revolution would be more intelligent and introspective than that.

Answer my questions first.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


It has nothing to do with fear. It is reality. Id prefer a peaceful resolution, but those in power are pushing to make it violent. If you are in power, and you say another group that doesn't agree with you are terrorists, and under current laws, would mean they basically have no rights, exactly what do you expect those labeled terrorists to do, if those in power act on those assertions?

Yes, people have been afraid before. The difference now is that those in power have labeled anyone who disagrees with them as enemy combatants. THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I'll do what I can to peacefully make things better. But if someone acts on those words, and comes for me just because I disagree, Im not going to bow my head, hold out my hands for cuffs, and go along. Would you?

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


And by the way, your laughably arrogant, elitist tone is really offensive and unnecessary. You assume, without knowing, that you are more intelligent and educated than those you are replying to, simply because they hold a different view than you. That arrogance and ignorance is a large part of what has lead those in power to declare and ideological war on those who oppose them. Perhaps you don't see the problem because you are a part of it.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


From POedSoldier:

1.) Just to let you know there are 300 million Americans, I don’t think 300 million Americans voted. (129,438,754 voted ... that’s not exactly everyone, and there are appx 200 million people over the age of 18.)

2.) The patriot act clearly is a violation of the US constitution, the fact that you as an American can be taken away without a day in court, and without even an attorney present, is truly cause for concerns.

3.) The enemy of this country is none other then our government; they have been the bad guys for some time.

reply to post by xxpigxx


Really, you're talking about a 230 year solution to a modern problem that is a little more complicated than it was back then. The basis is the same, but there is more to meets the eye than "shoot 'em." There are no redcoats, we're not ruled by a monarchy, and the people who threw themselves for us to get away from that would be disappointed if we didn't utilize their LAW to combat tyranny so we would never again have to give up our lives for it. And if genius' like you are going to be among the ranks, I could only hope that my tyrannical government stops you in your tracks for my own safety. "Safer with lions than hyennas" if you catch my drift.

This is why I respect Ron Paul so much. He is outfoxing the foxes. House Resolution 1207 is a masterpiece that will smoke them out and declare all who oppose traitorous. He's not hooting and hollering for us to take over D.C. He's not calling for armed resistance. He's becoming knowledgeable about the law in which they speak, after so many years, he's found a way to divide and combat the Federal Reserve. This is the "war" of the 21st century, which you should notice has nothing to do with your 9mm and a bugout.

reply to post by saturnine_sweet


"Rights" are a word.

The only rights we have that are absolutely inalienable are to breathe, thoughs, and movement and even those can be taken away from us. That is what is in jeopary here. Gunning people down isn't a way to achieve that.

What would a bunch of uncoordinated people with guns, shooting down innocent people serving the federal government, preaching about a "revolution" do for the rest of us?

You want to see your guns taken away?
You want to see everybody monitored?
You want to see you stripped of so called "rights?"

Being an uneducated jackass on a rampage with a rifle would ensure all of your fears of your government come to life in short order.



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reply to post by xxpigxx


My reply was unanswered from him, I want you to answer in your own words, dude. Speak for yourself.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


Congrats for more boundless arrogance, and for totally failing to reply to anything I said. I cringe that you invoke Ron Paul in your statements, because you're talk fits better with Barak Obama. As does your blind arrogance. Unless and until you reply to anything I said, I'm done feeding the troll.

This from the interview:

"High-ranking politicians (some of them in uniform), with absolutely no idea what was going on in the day-to-day conduct of both wars, made stupid decisions and then stuck by them despite advice to the contrary from both American and Russian on-scene commanders."

This is interesting, perhaps the American and Russian on-scene commanders wanted either to pack up and leave, or escalate the stakes by deliberately killing, abusing, or stealing from the citizenry in an effort to dispirit any 'insurgents' or 'terrorists', people like you and I, in a effort to flush us out or to simply terminate us, but the politicians knew people simply won't stand for that so they had to back out of these more extreme and illegal tactics to try to prolong the needless killing and corporate/ family profiteering.

BAN ALL WARS

reply to post by saturnine_sweet

But if someone acts on those words, and comes for me just because I disagree, Im not going to bow my head, hold out my hands for cuffs, and go along. Would you?

This is the only question you asked me, so I will answer it as thoroughly as I can.

No, I wouldn't.

Happy?

How is that relevant?

I've asked you two, I would promptly like answered.

Thanks.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by saturnine_sweet

 

"Rights" are a word.

The only rights we have that are absolutely inalienable are to breath, thoughs, and movement and even those can be taken away from us. That is what is in jeopary here. Gunning people down isn't a way to achieve that.

What would a bunch of uncoordinated people with guns, shooting down innocent people serving the federal government, preaching about a "revolution" do for the rest of us?

You want to see your guns taken away?
You want to see everybody monitored?
You want to see you stripped of so called "rights?"

Being an uneducated jackass on a rampage with a rifle would ensure all of your fears of your government come to life in short order.

[edit on 12-5-2009 by DeadFlagBlues]

Do you know what mate? thumbs up for you,I agree with you 100% the way to protest is not to go about shooting things that you do not agree with.

Im not even american but its the same over here, all of you internet revolutionists moan and whine about your rights being taken away by some elitist totalitarian dictatorship and your solution is shoot anybody that works for the goverment?

If you had more sense than ammunition you would learn the law, become somebody with the power to change something from within, There is nothing to stop you beating them at their own game. Take a page out of RP'S book and do something about it

These internet hardmen i believe actaully want a revolution to happen, you can actaully sense the undertones they want a reason to use all the spare ammo lying about

Know thy enemy! learn the law and do something about it from within

or shoot from the outside !

Originally posted by star in a jar
BAN ALL WARS

Right on, my (wo?)man! It is as simple as that. We don't need anymore killing to solve our problems. If you're killing someone, that is coercion, which means you're imposing your will onto somebody else. Where real (final) resolve comes from knowledge, the ability to fully understand that knowledge, the ability to convey that knowledge honestly, acknowledging the humanity of who you are conveying that knowledge to, and compromising with another person.

No dressing up like Benjamin Franklin, watching Glenn Beck, donkey/elephant bumper stickers, or gun play needed.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues

Wow!

If as much * came out your * as comes out your mouth, you'd have *ted yourself to death years ago.

What are you?

Skinhead?

Nazi?

You read a couple posts on a thread and go berserk with your mistaken assumptions.

In times of trouble, I really enjoy guys like you.

They drop faster than bird * in a downdraft.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues

You want to see your guns taken away?
You want to see everybody monitored?
You want to see you stripped of so called "rights?"

Being an uneducated jackass on a rampage with a rifle would ensure all of your fears of your government come to life in short order.

[edit on 12-5-2009 by DeadFlagBlues]

The problem is that people are not on rampages, are presently being monitored, and their rights are being taken away at this very moment, little by little so we don't notice.

There is a 50 billion dollar "black budget" this year and 9 trillion dollars are unaccounted for, 30,000 dollars for every American has gone to the pockets of their masters.

America has been fighting illegal wars since Korea, costing Americans more than half of their entire budget.

America could have been the greatest nation on Earth but the Military-Industrial complex DAMAGED America.



www.warresisters.org...



[edit on 12-5-2009 by star in a jar]

The main problem I see with the possibility of a successful armed revolution is that the states are so dependent on the federal government. It would most likely be a civil war with red versus blue states and the balance of power may be a bit lopsided. With the state of the economy and the amount of stimulus money the states have received in aid, its almost like a buy out. I could be wrong of course...

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by poedxsoldiervet

 

You disagree with the taxation, so you're ready for war? Using a hint of rational thought, I'd have to ask, Rambo, what kind of world would your children you work so hard for be if this country went to #?

You wouldn't have to work because there'd be no job. You wouldn't have to pay for private school, because THERE'D BE NO PRIVATE SCHOOL. If you want to talk realistically, what if it was those very same children who become casualities in the crossfire? What if your home is taken away from you and leveled because you were declared an "enemy of the state; domestic terrorist."

What would life be like then?

To answer your question, I would rather Die then live in slavery, and this is all it amounts to, no amount of what anyone says is going to change the way you think? War sucks I know I have fought them. War on our own soil sucks even worse, but mark my words the goverment and thos in charge do not care what we say, there biggest fear is WE THE PEOPLE. But they have done such a good job at keeping us polarzied.

Sir from your comments I would reckon to say that you have conformed to your slave ways that the goverment has made you and alot more americans, sir we are at the point in our history to conform or mobilize.

in 1770 they called them Corrspodence Committes, Today I call them the same, the time has come to pull are way ward government into check, 1st with peace and if that doesnt work, then with blood.

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
reply to post by poedxsoldiervet

 

You disagree with the taxation, so you're ready for war? Using a hint of rational thought, I'd have to ask, Rambo, what kind of world would your children you work so hard for be if this country went to #?

You wouldn't have to work because there'd be no job. You wouldn't have to pay for private school, because THERE'D BE NO PRIVATE SCHOOL. If you want to talk realistically, what if it was those very same children who become casualities in the crossfire? What if your home is taken away from you and leveled because you were declared an "enemy of the state; domestic terrorist."

What would life be like then?

To answer your question, I would rather Die then live in slavery, and this is all it amounts to, no amount of what anyone says is going to change the way you think? War sucks I know I have fought them. War on our own soil sucks even worse, but mark my words the goverment and thos in charge do not care what we say, there biggest fear is WE THE PEOPLE. But they have done such a good job at keeping us polarzied.

Sir from your comments I would reckon to say that you have conformed to your slave ways that the goverment has made you and alot more americans, sir we are at the point in our history to conform or mobilize.

in 1770 they called them Corrspodence Committes, Today I call them the same, the time has come to pull are way ward government into check, 1st with peace and if that doesnt work, then with blood.

reply to post by iamjesusphish


THINK about that just for a second.

The Federal Government has no jobs, and creates no jobs.

The Federal Government generates no revenue. Zero.

The Federal Government relies entirely on the people of the US, who are living in STATES.

The Federal Government is relatively small, but do try to control so much, which is why they do such a pisspoor job.

The Federal Government can be cut off at any time by the States.

The States seem to rely on the Federal Government, but the dumbasses seem to think that wealth originates and is available from the Federal Government.

In truth, it's right there within each State.

The way it was foreseen, the way it was intended.

reply to post by star in a jar


"the problem that is people are not on rampages."

No, the problem is paranoid delusions and people not "fighting back" intelligently. If you want change, you do not grab a gun and shoot people. That is what the military does, and as you've seen the kind of success that has achieved in all the history that you've mentioned.

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet


Don't call me sir. If anything, I should be calling you sir for your service.

Just answer me honestly, and I am not being a smug # or anything.

What slavery?
What chains?



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