Photo-enhanced images show alien occupants in the Turkey footage

Originally posted by free_spirit
reply to post by cmazzagatti

 

Interesting case from Kumburgaz, Turkey. This is another frame from the video by
Yalcin Yalman. Courtesy: Haktan Akdogan.

Ha cute wiht the "bobbing" heads in the center.
It is a small vehicle, sort of an ET-scooter. Must be a small cockpit.

Originally posted by darkraver

the claim,as far as I am concerned is that this IS real UFO,othing more or less
...

how convenient for skepticism side

Okay, so for you the proof is just the footage?

How convenient for the believers side.

I need A LOT more than some shaky, dubious camera footage to form a belief.

I'm not saying this isn't true, or false, and I really wish some evidence would appear that can't be disputed because it is real - I just can't see any.

There has been countless cases of hoaxers, and the lessons learned from them is that caution must be paramount to any investigation. Absolute proof must be exactly that - absolute.

There is plenty of alternatives to this than 'visiting aliens' and to say otherwise requires a major suspension of belief in reality.

-m0r

Originally posted by Chadwickus
I'll just paste what I wrote in the other thread found here:

Originally posted by Chadwickus

Over the course of the video which according to the time and date spans several days this craft doesn't change direction or angle at all. Anyone think that's a bit strange?

gonna have to say a hoax on this one.

Until this can be explained properly it's pretty hard to believe this is real.

On the other hand. If I would have made this I would have changed the angle for sure, certainly when i would have a 3d object, but even if it was 2D, so the fact that the angle did not change make it at least believable that it is a object that they can't alter from where they are.

its a kite, I just know it is lol

Good work, but as always with most UFO pics and vids it could be absolutley anything!! Could be a chikcen for all we know. Or, it could be an Alien pulling a moony....or a marsy depending on where they are from. Listen, I'm open to the possibility. But until something lands in front of me and starts talking gibberish the jury is out. I know of aout 20 way in which this entire video can be faked.

Time for a totally stupid question!

Is there anything interesting in Kumburgaz that aliens would want to check out like religious sites or ancient monuments or some else of interest?

Not that I'm saying these things are real, But if they are and they have come to the same place twice there must be something there thats of interest...

[edit on 11-5-2009 by MOTT the HOOPLE]

reply to post by MOTT the HOOPLE


Only thing that might be of interest in that area is the Natural Gas(LPG) Storing Facility, which is huge. Other than that it is just a summer house area for people living in Istanbul and aound. If they like to sunbath and fill their tanks with LPG , that sure is the place for "aliens"...

Its probably ultra-mega secret US plane covering itself with "Alien" lokking dummies, spying on our strategic places...who knows....

[edit on 11-5-2009 by MoonandStar]

[edit on 11-5-2009 by MoonandStar]

[edit on 11-5-2009 by MoonandStar]

reply to post by MOTT the HOOPLE


US presence in Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Israel and so on - encircles the middle east Oil fields. Its also a huge horn in the side of the former Soviet Union (peace operations in Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, Macedonia etc). Just a guess.

[edit on 2009/5/11 by reugen]

wow, all ihave to say that is some of the best footage i have seen! at that distance and altitude i would say that is not a realy small craft so those would have to be some big aliens compared to the craft i could be wrong but it looks like a couple of greys cruising turkey

[edit on 11-5-2009 by paradiselost333]

Great footage and I really don't know how long it is going to take before it sinks in there are Aliens and UFO's. Oops! forgot it has to bite you in the butt first.

Remember now, all those stars out there aren't star's.

Just a couple random thoughts. First isn't this the same video that at some point shows a bunch of fishing boats or whatever heading out and no one but the person taping this seems to even notice whats happening out over the ocean? I could be wrong but I seem to remember that and thought it odd.

Second I agre with Mike S, the size proportions seem to be all out of whack....unless they are on vacation and some alien speed boat is pulling then along in their super sleek alien glider.

I dunno, it's like I always say. I have a really, really hard time seeing things that aren't there. It's stll fun to watch though.

Everything is way to blurry to indicate an alien craft or occupants.

"supposedly" during the interview posted on 2nd or 3rd page, they show the camera in question.

It has 100x zoom, he also has a telephoto lense, upping that to 200x's.

So he and the interviewer who is an image analysis while talking (they sound like they are arguing, is that standard for the Turkish tongue? Really these two haveing the discussion about the camera is 10000 times more intense than the reaction of the guy while he's filmimg this supposed alien craft.

Anyhow, by some pixel caculation they arrive at the conclusion that this ship is some 12-15 meters across. Standard for an alien scout ship. heh.

But here's what really bothers me....

Apparently the camera man didnt want to use the LCD screen, cause he was afraid of running out of batteries. So he had to eye it up through some sory of other viewfinder? (I don't know anything about cameras, but I do know if I was witnessing these things night after night, I'd stock up on batteries,film, and by a tripod,

The cuts during film the camera operator attibutes to that when he lost sight of the object, he'd turn the camera off, as again to save batteries, and tape. Then he couldn't make it public for 4 months due to a death in the family, and mothers illness, ect. all of these little pieces just scream BS to me.

Also why does the ship change from a nice crescent type flying wing to a really bright object that looks like 1/3 of a broken dinner plate?

Also how does he get this nice head on shot of the pilots. Either they are flying VERY low, or they are diving toward him or he is filming from an aicraft of his own(which isnt the case cause you can here the waves lapping against the shore.)

So the perspective of that shot...is well, shot.

So I'm gonna have to agree with Phage on this one: Opening scene is the ISS/ alien pilots scene is a model held close to the camera /ocean lights/fire are oil rigs, and reflections/ and the last dinner plate shot is another model of some sort.

Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by NASCARUFOs
reply to post by FlySolo

 

The story i got from a television program in Turkey (translated) is that he is a prison/military gaurd that has a job on the beach front and all of this is taking place over the ocean. One of the videos has been translated on U-TUBE and he explains how it looks so close up. He has a telescoping lens or telescopic whatever. He can zoom in tremendous amounts while recording.

Well, then we need to determine how much of a zoom he had on it. 50% 100%?

If people bothered to check the links other people (I forget the names of the posters) have been good enough to share, you would have all the information you need...

www.youtube.com...

the 40x mag is made 20X stronger with the zooming equipment and the 100 200X.

I have no idea what I'm talking about but the info is all in that YT link.

reply to post by Kashodi


Is it bad form to bump your own question?

Anyways I am stumped as to how nobody has realized this.
When I record a helicopter or a plane I dont see giant faces in the windows.
For the sake of crunching numbers how large would the "alien head" have to be to be seen that far away...and its "head" takes up the whole craft almost...where is his body?

[edit on 11/5/2009 by Kashodi]

reply to post by Kashodi


Who knows how big they are? They could be 15 foot tall... Its either an amazing fake or the real thing. It seems these people travel around with gear searching for UFO's and other phenomena.

I guess people are so used to fakes they can't determine whether any UFO video is real or not!

reply to post by The Shade


sorry maybe I should explain myself better.
I'm not asking how tall they are in general.

It seems like a lot of people think that because they can see the face using photoshop it implys its real. BUT a video of a craft...lets say 100 yards away should not be able to see a face, and if you could then that alien has a head the size of a jet airplane lol.
What I am asking is why this hasnt been brought up? I was following the OP until I saw the "face" and completely disregarded it as unrealistic after that.

It looks like a model, suspended, and filmed in mostly darkness.

The filming shots don't go together - suddenly there is a spaceship in the sky!

There is no way you can see aliens 'in the window' from great distance, and in the dark.

They just happened to be in the window perfectly framed, in the center of the ship - and don't seem to do anything.

Nope, sorry, its a model. I'd be willing to bet this guy is an amateur filmaker.

reply to post by triplesod


They are talking about the use of a teleconverter, a cheaper way of increasing the power of a lens than buying a more powerful lens.

Teleconverters present problems, the major one being that they reduce the amount of light reaching the camera sensor. The one they are talking about reduces the aperture by 1.7x which reduces the amount of light by almost four times. This makes low light filming a problem.

They are also talking about the use of both optical and digital zoom. The Digital zoom is useless. It more or less makes pixels bigger, it does not actually zoom in telescopically. en.wikipedia.org...

Using a teleconverter along with digital zoom is no way to produce a good image (especially at night). The amount of original information retained is very low (perhaps not unintentional in this case). Applying "enhancement" techniques to such images does not reveal details, it reveals artifacts created by digital interpolation.

[edit on 5/11/2009 by Phage]

reply to post by kilas


great please choose any one of those methods and share your work with us. I would love to see you duplicate this with just one of your many methods.

thanks.