Unexplained Mysteries On The Moon And Mars! An Alien Connection?

reply to post by icelid

Actually I said I don't think the tracks on the Moon were made by boulders. I did say the tracks on Mars were made by boulders.

True, my measurements may not be perfectly accurate but the differences I measured in spacing amounted to about 6%, not exactly a "slight" difference and as I pointed out, if the objects were quite distant (something we could not judge in the image) that difference could have amounted to quite a lot. But, as it turns out, the "objects" were indeed artificial. The various images, rover log, and traverse map show that they are tracks left by the rover itself. I was wrong about them being rocks and I said so.

I'm not grabbing at anything. I'm offering possibilities. How is that different from suggesting the things in any of these images are evidence of alien civilization. Sheesh.

reply to post by Phage



So what is your thoughts on the "golf ball" image, isn't it odd it looks almost exactly like a polar station here on Earth?

Are you aware of multiple rumors of a research station(s) on Mars?

reply to post by jkrog08

You must have missed this:
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Originally posted by Phage
I'm offering possibilities.

No...

We are the ones who are offering possibilities.

You are merely providing us with the commonly accepted standard prosaic explanations - for everything and sometimes verbatim

One might conclude most people come to ATS to find viewpoints and perspectives other than those presented by yourself and found in the mainstream or BAUT....

*Nevertheless, We all appreciate your efforts here; You're Better than Oberg (As I have repeatedly told him)

reply to post by Exuberant1


Ok, keep on believing sand dunes in a crater are actually a martian base. That geological features are enormous trees.

Originally posted by Phage

Ok, keep on believing sand dunes in a crater are actually a martian base.

Phage,

I posted over a dozen images with anomalies in a multitude of geographical locations, at varying altitude and of multiple terrain types...

Surely you don't really believe these images all consist of "sand dunes in a crater" - the varying geography and terrain immediately precludes this notion of yours.

[edit on 8-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

reply to post by Exuberant1


I was referring to one particular image, I thought that would be obvious by my description.

You're welcome to continue to believe that over zooming digital images reveals hidden information as well. That it is impossible for straight lines and right angles to occur naturally.

[edit on 5/8/2009 by Phage]

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by jkrog08

 

You must have missed this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

The problem is Phage these guys want this soooo much it totally clouds there judgement thats the real problem.
I have had a quick look at the link provided to the livingmoon.com
well its like a kids join the dots book if anyone thinks any of the rocks and mounds shown on that site are buildings,tanks,factories they really NEED HELP anyone can colour in shapes they think they see but none of those are real no TOWERS NO TANKS NOTHING!

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reply to post by mikesingh



Hey Mike pick what you think is the best image from livingmoon.com to prove the existance of buildings there, you put a link to the site so lets see its best example i need a

reply to post by Phage


Your rebuttals are far too generalized.

You should take advantage of the images that I and mikesingh posted and perform a rebuttal for each specific image.

This would save you time in the future, yes?

....Then we would have to find new images to speculate about, and you could attempt to debunk those too. It would be fun - let's do it

[edit on 8-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

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...Well. you may think I am "touched"..But, I really think we should start

treating the subject of Mars as if it is an extention of Earth... !

Originally posted by sotp

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by Skallagrimsson
I haven't seen this Mars anomaly posted anywhere. I found it searching the martian surface in Google Earth.

It looks artificial like a base with landing strip and roads. There are nothing (that I can find) that resembles this in the surrounding area.

.....and I have looked!!!

It is located at: 84* 15' 57.17" S 56* 26' 41.03" W

To me, this ties in directly to the "blueberries' and the crater with a golf ball in it. The image you show above looks exactly like what you would expect if it were etched electrically (or if water erosion due to a torrent eroded the soil).

You may be right, but I think Skallagrimsson was talking about the area in the left-centre of the image which looks like an aerial image of a desert airfield, as opposed to the actual terrain...

(apologies to Skallagrimsson and yourself if I'm wrong!)

You are right on target

The lines and the geometric shaped field on the flat top looks just like an Antarctic base looks like, except that it is located on the southern hemisphere of Mars. Look it up in Google Earth, the coordinates are in the text above. The picture is near the border where this vast and strange kind of landscape borders with more flat type of landscape.

I have looked all over the place on those flat higher plains like the one with the lines and tracks but they all are completely without this kind of lines and marks.

When humans build bases for scientific or military purposes, they often position them in similiar strategic locations. This one is at a top in close proximity to two distinctly different types of landscape.

If you were to build a base on Mars, where would you locate it ???

Just look it up in Google Earth and see for yourself

reply to post by Skallagrimsson


It makes sense to build a dome in a crater.

The odds of a crater being impacted again are statistically lower than for the surrounding area - as is evidenced by the majority of craters.

Here is a good 3D rendering of the geodesic dome in a crater on Mars:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/657ebbf699c0.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 8-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

It's just silly to take every blurry image that's reproduced here and expect someone else to either debunk it or accept it for what it's claimed to be. For one, there's no way anyone can prove a negative. For another, it's not the job of the debunker to find an alternative explanation, it's the job of the original claimant to provide convincing proof of what they're saying.

Unfortunately, the one and only thing anybody ever presents as "proof" about these images is: "Well, it looks a lot like an (..............), so that's what it must be!" And that is one of the worst arguments anyone can make. Stuff looks like other stuff. Jesus shows up on a tortilla.

Nine times out of ten, just like with the vaunted Martian Face, when a better, higher resolution image is found of the same thing, the similarity magically disappears. And for the other one out of ten, there's just not a better image available.

In any event, it's not up to the debunker to have to track down the best possible image. It's up to the claimant. Do your homework. Yeah, your Martian train station might not look so great in a higher resolution. That's too bad. Nobody's stopping you from looking further. Who knows? Maybe you'll actually find something that will stand up in even the highest resolution image.

But don't expect other people to do your work for you.



[edit on 8-5-2009 by Nohup]

"An average bolt of positive lightning carries a current of up to 300 kA (kiloamperes) and has a potential difference up to 1 gigavolt (one billion volts). For an electric discharge to have produced those huge features on Mars, it would have to be in the range of trillions of volts!! Possible? I don't think so! "


Mike i'm not sure why - But the Terra Papers would eexplain these if they were true as MARS i think was the defence stronghold over our solar system - Loads of fighting with Weapons and energies beyound our comprehension.

If they were true of course...

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by Skallagrimsson

 

It makes sense to build a dome in a crater.

The odds of a crater being impacted again are statistically lower than for the surrounding area - as is evidenced by the majority of craters.

Here is a good 3D rendering of the geodesic dome in a crater on Mars:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/657ebbf699c0.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 8-5-2009 by Exuberant1]

For your sake I hope you are kidding. These are not geodesic domes built in the middle of a crater. They are part of the impact crater. Many times impact craters have a section like this in the center. I have got to get out of this thread. You guys are giving me a headache.



[edit on 8-5-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

reply to post by Exuberant1

I guess you missed this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...