Unexplained Mysteries On The Moon And Mars! An Alien Connection?

reply to post by Extralien


good point about the 1st pic!!! :O :O :O :O!!

on the thermal image below it there is no rock or "lizard" that is freaky

btw that pic from couple years back of the man walking down the hill on Mars i think it's a giant snake and always have done.. the body doesnt contact the hill itself it's like it's the top of a large creature behind that hill.

news.cnet.com...

it just doesnt "feel" right to me.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Mysterious tracks crop up all the time in geology on this planet and the same forces are at work elsewhere.

Several images of this phenomenon are at Geology.com

Some of the tracks in these pics can hardly come from a vehicle, considering they start at a rocky precipice and end shortly downhill at another precipice. They do look a lot like the tracks left by falling rocks. Skiers should also be familiar with similar track patterns, when a snowball rolls down the slope a ways. I'm sure if you were to investigate that curved track on mars, you would find the rock that caused it sitting there at the end of the track.

As far as i'm aware an explanation has been given on this phenomenon very recently. And it was something to do with every so often water would come down from the valleys and over night would form a very thin layer of ice over the ground and the strong winds that cross the desert would push these boulders across the ice. Then the ice would melt leaving no trace behind excpet from these tracks from the moving boulders.

However as far as we are aware there's no water or ice on the Moon for this to happen. So this theory doesnt work.

Originally posted by Lee_K

However as far as we are aware there's no water or ice on the Moon.

That may not be entirely true:

Astrophysicists believe lunar ice could be hidden in the Moon's polar craters that are permanently shaded from the sun. NASA researchers analyzed data from a space probe sent to the Moon in 1998 that showed hydrogen on the moon is concentrated into craters in the Moon’s poles where temperatures are colder than minus 170 degrees Celsius.

Hydrogen, together with the oxygen that is abundant within moon rock, is a key element in making water.

Researchers say if ice is present in the craters then it could potentially provide a water source for the eventual establishment of a manned base on the Moon, sparking a possible platform for exploration into the further reaches of our solar system.

However, researchers say it might not even be water ice, but hydrogen present in the form of protons fired from the sun into the dusty lunar surface.

“This research applies a newly developed technique to data from the Lunar Prospector mission to show that hydrogen is actually concentrated into the permanently shaded polar craters,” said Dr. Vincent Eke at Durham University.

www.redorbit.com...

You don't need Nasa to show you photos you can take a look at the Moon when it's full Moon yourself and you'll be able to see buildings or whatever's on it quite clearly.

reply to post by MichaelI


What sort of telescope do you use?

Surely you don't use your eyes alone...

reply to post by MichaelI

Can you be a little more specific?
How do you do this? What sized scope are you using? and where on the moons disk are you looking, and with what filters- or are you simply taking the piss?

Here are some images taken on Mars, in which appears to be a Sphinx.

Taken alone, these grainy images do not suffice as proof of any one thing - apart from the fact that there appears to be something that looks like a Sphinx on the surface of Mars.

But as you will see, this apparent sphinx does not stand alone. It is accompanied and complimented by various other supporting evidence, much of which can be said to exhibit a style and motif similiar to that found Ancient Egypt and Meso-America.

Even the infamous Face was theorized (a priori) and later proven to be half feline and half hominid - see bottom images.

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*Here is couple of images of a small statue that has been carved into a recess on the rim of Victoria Crater - Note the flat chest (for inscriptions) and uniquely Egyptian style:

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*Now, to the Face on Mars...

Not many people know that Richard Hoagland originally predicted that the face would comprise of two separate species - one of them was feline. Hoagland Cited early Meso-American culture as a precedent.
See below images:

Mayan Split Face Mask
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Mayan Glyph of a Jaguar/Man:
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*As we know, Cats played a significant role in Egyptian society, and it appears they also were held in high regard by the long-gone civilization on Mars (who had a similiar taste in statues as the Egyptians).

Here is the Feline side of the Mars face that has been both mirrored and then overlayed with the image of a lion:

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Could it be That the Face on Mars is truly an Artificial construct?

Mayhaps it is a monument from of an ancient Human civilization - a colony that was destroyed in some unimaginable cataclysm or worse yet; an interplanetary conflagration that reduced the remnant to sticks and stones, too busy trying to feed themselves to rebuild, too few to ever make any progress, and with no way of conveying to the new generation the wonders of your world.

Mayhaps...

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Originally posted by Exuberant1
What's worse is their tendency publish their geology-bound interpretations in journals which do not believe in or acknowledge martian biology (despite all evidence to the contrary); therefore, it is biased and one-sided, and hardly representative of truly critical peer review.

“These observations give the strongest evidence to date that water still flows occasionally on the surface of Mars,” said Michael Meyer, lead scientist for NASA’s Mars Exploration Program, Washington.

Here's how NASA may be covering up the truth:

Scientific Evidence Of Life On Mars!! Why is NASA Obfuscating The Truth?


Hydrogen Densities (Probably Water) on Mars with Viking 1 and 2 Landing Sites Located (VL1 & VL2).


Where there’s water, there’s life!
Courtesy: LANL

Cheers!

reply to post by mikesingh


Those with a simple education in astronomy understanding mathematics and the earths eco system realizing what earth is in comparison to all that is out there or should be out there should never be surprised to learn about visitations on the moon or Mars as more evolved beings have, do and will visit past, present or future. It's there, it has been there and it will be there if someone is intentionally covering up this information hiding what has been found/discovered from the world it is merely out of fear of knowing and realizing where we stand as a species as the majority of us earthlings could not deal with such a discovery just quite yet, the system continues onwards above earth, the eco system becomes universal and earth drops back down on the charts.

reply to post by Exuberant1


Hmmm...I can show you dozens of 'faces' on Mars. Here's one I found in Cydonia some time ago, enhanced by sethpen, below...





Resembles a lion-man, what? Check out the whiskers and mane!

Cheers!



[edit on 9-5-2009 by mikesingh]

But...

Anyone with a powerful enough telescope can confirm, or infirm these things about the Moon. I mean somebody with one of these big telescopes for amateur astronomy that can looks at everything down to the smallest mound on the moon. Howe come these people are so silent about it?

Anyone?

Originally posted by Barla Von
Great thread Mike

Out of all the images, I think the evenly spaced objects are the pick of the bunch. If we could find even more of these it would certainly raise a few eyebrows.

Its a six-pack of Haunebu

reply to post by mikesingh


Can you show me another half-n-half face?

(with more obvious features than the one you provided. Where is the face?)

Here is a smiley face:

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And here is a unique and original interpretation of the non-feline side of the Hoagland face:

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reply to post by Echtelion


How big are we talking about here?
I have never even heard of anyone owning a personal >$100 observatory in their backyard here; not to say that they dont exist.
My guess is that most academically certified astronomers/astro-physicists, play patsy to Government directives: after all, unless they own that expensive equipment, they no doubt are told in what fashion they are to use the tax-payer funded telescopes etc.
Ant astronomers know of the type of magnification/set-up an amateur would require to see ground based anomalies such as listed here?

Originally posted by Echtelion
But...

Anyone with a powerful enough telescope can confirm, or infirm these things about the Moon. I mean somebody with one of these big telescopes for amateur astronomy that can looks at everything down to the smallest mound on the moon. Howe come these people are so silent about it?

Anyone?

Nope! Terrestrial telescopes would not be able to pick out small mounds on the Moon what with the Earth's atmosphere to contend with! Hubble, one of the most powerful space based telescopes, can't do that either!

The Hubble's primary mirror is 2.4 m wide. Not as big as many ground-based telescopes, but being in space it doesn't have to contend with the atmosphere.

Hubble's WFPC2 is the telescope's main camera. The Wide Field and Planetary Camera 2 (WFPC2) is behind most of the famous Hubble pictures. It doesn't use film to record its images. Instead, it collects information from stars and galaxies to make photographs with the help of four pieces of high-tech circuitry called Charge-Coupled Devices (CCDs)

All said and done, Hubble’s resolution is 0.06 arc-seconds. So looking at the Earth from a distance of 600 km, it can resolve objects as small as 30 cm. Looking at the Moon from 375,000 km, it can resolve objects as small as 360 m. So, you won't be able to see those moon buggies, flags and even small hills!)

And looking at Mars, 75 million km distant at conjunction, objects as small as 36 km wide can be made out. So that’s not too good to see that face of Mars, what?

Cheers!

reply to post by mikesingh


Thank you for clearing that one up. I thought it impossible for Earth based scopes to have that sort of power anyway. How would one go at any rate, with high magnification, a worm-gear clock drive; and still, trying to track a planetary disk at high mag.?
Clock drives compensate for the Earths rotation, yet at super-high magnifications, how would it compensate for both The Earth and Mars' movement- its probably that miniscule that it woudnt make a difference; I'd be interested to hear what you think
Enjoyable thread, probably the most interesting for me since I've joined!
I love this sort of stuff, thanks man

reply to post by Exuberant1


Here's an animated mirrored 30 framer of the Mars 'face'! Choose the 'face' you like!


Courtesy: MaxtheKnife

Cheers!

reply to post by mikesingh

Do you reckon its a face or thats just the familiar name its been given?
I think its an anomalous (artificial) structure of some sort, I've seen it through different light filter treatments ( there are some that do indeed suggest a face)- yet not these; where these the "new" Nasa images released after the initial Cydonia controversy?

reply to post by mikesingh


Very Nice!

I saw that once before, but never could find it again

I agree that the face is a poor example. Nevertheless, it is right beside some very interesting features (especially as imaged by THEMIS), and as a plateau it is remarkably symmetrical. This symmetry is even more unique when taken in combination with the thermal imagery of the Cydonia region.

The surface features of the plateau (Face) are relatively unimportant when all these other things are considered.

*There is also a dolphin at Cydonia Mensae - but it is clearly a natural formation.

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reply to post by Exuberant1


So true .....

The surface features of the plateau (Face) are relatively unimportant when all other these other things are considered.

Colour filters and the like only help to show those that won't see; a more definite possibility...like the dolphin you posted.