Biggest DISINFO agent ring in the world!

THis is the most important topic and thread in existence, cheers for posting.

I believe we may need to use force, not legal means to take the media - it is more powerful than any army, and is sure to be defended by our enemies to the death.

If free people controlled the media - they would lose everything they have worked for hundreds of years for in a matter of months.

There is often a response of shock, oputrage, confusion or surprise when it is proven that the mass media is proven to be lieing. I find this response shocking and difficult to assimilate.

I want to make a statement of fact, the mass media has only ONE purpose.

TO LIE TO YOU AND DECIEVE YOU, that is ALL THAT IT DOES - IT HAS NOT OTHER PURPOSE.

Your task should be to discover the REASONS for anything that it presents to you, and to understand why it is telling you what it is telling you - it ALWAYS has a reason.

[edit on 7-5-2009 by Amagnon]

Another question, what do you consider a reliable source of information?

I check many sources on an issue in order to validate it as well as I can.

The truth is sometimes illusive.

And certainly the Internet cannot be trusted.

The Internet catches you in its web of lies and deceit, it is dangerous as well.

Confusion, that's the ticket, keep people confused and chasing their tails, arguing one with another, not realizing they are all being deceived.

[edit on 103131p://bThursday2009 by Stormdancer777]

Originally posted by som1else
The problem is website like these,

This member is a returning banned member, who was previously banned for this thread.


He is now banned again.


Apparently, we're not such a problem if it's impossible for him to stay away.

Your point is well-taken, but the sad reality is that "journalists" nowadays don't get the job or the contract unless they support the mainstream agenda. Even in so-called "alternative" media the journalists tend to support some agenda rather than reporting the whole truth.

Another sad fact is that lots of news people are actually out-of-work doctors and lawyers.

As for regular people spreading disinfo, this is merely driven by some ego need to be the first person to present some sort of outlandish gossip. If your gossip is supported by the mainstream media, then you get more oohs and ahhs. If your story is incredible enough, people will have no choice but to believe it.

Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Your point is well-taken, but the sad reality is that "journalists" nowadays don't get the job or the contract unless they support the mainstream agenda. Even in so-called "alternative" media the journalists tend to support some agenda rather than reporting the whole truth.

Another sad fact is that lots of news people are actually out-of-work doctors and lawyers.

As for regular people spreading disinfo, this is merely driven by some ego need to be the first person to present some sort of outlandish gossip. If your gossip is supported by the mainstream media, then you get more oohs and ahhs. If your story is incredible enough, people will have no choice but to believe it.

Very true, journalist are doing a horrible job, I like to post information but it is not ego oriented, it is because I have an agenda, lol

I want people to face facts, one specific fact.

At the moment.

There can be no change in the mass confusion that is media as we know it (including the more "alternative" websites) until there's a radically new concept of government itself in place. What a joke this debate is! Real and true hard facts invariably mean (soon enough) exposure of things like close encounters of the 4th kind (abductions, contacts) and 9/11 (inside job) truth. Most people - including VERY many of those who laughably consider themselves "independent-minded" or even "freethinking" - in the final analysis will FLEE trembling and cowering behind their "big daddy" mafia-like government and media honchos. In the US the National "Security" STATE is, quite simply, God (as only actions and never words can speak) to such pathetic-pathological people. Get real! The level of ignorance and denial is so inexpressably robotically monolithic that this paradigm is really more like a computer simulation than real life.

I hope I'm not coming off as merely trolling, but with the the bull# that rules the day now, it's impossible for me not to be PERCEIVED as a troll to the beyond staggeringly unawakened.

I have not read this through this entire thread so I am sorry if it has already been brought up but King you are 100 percent correct.

However I may have a different take on this...

Knowing the MSM is completely controlled it allows me to read between the lines and gather real information and give me an insight to the NWO's next move.

For example Swine Flu... with so much attention given to it, I immediately could tell there was an agenda here. Pandemics are just another tool for loss of liberty.

Or when the MSM reports about stupid crap like Britney Spears I try to see what they are distracting us from.

As well when I run to some seemingly important news that is not reported on the MSM, I often tend lend it more credit to being genuine and significant in the fact that the MSM wants to hide it especially if there is a 'distraction' like Somali Pirates going on at the same time.

Disinformation, Inc.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Someone please tell me what a disinfo agent is?

In almost every case, simply someone with a differing opinion.

I see the term thrown around all the time, and invariably by members who are apparently incapable of accepting the idea that someone else could be right, and they could be wrong. "Disinfo agents" are, by and large, bogey men used as canards to provide weak cover for dubious or absurd claims.

Don't believe a video interlace artifact is proof that Reptilian Elvis and Zombie Jesus flew Reticuloid battlecruisers into the World Trade Center towers? You must be a disinfo agent.

Ironically, there do appear to be people who are paid to push certain points of view on the Internet ("opinion management" and whatnot), but the business seems to be in its infancy and focused mostly on promoting commercial products. It's also possible that various governments do have enough excess money lying around to pay people to troll Internet forums for some nefarious purpose or another, but probably not on a wide scale.

The truth is, there are so many people who are willing to do the same thing for free, and for their own reasons, that having organizations spend money to do it is somewhat redundant. Just look around. Is it really credible that such a large percentage of net surfers are being paid to do what they do (aside from surfing on company time when they're actually supposed to be working on something else), when they do it spontaneously on their own anyway?

Anyone who reads threads on ATS for any length of time is going to see the "disinfo agent card" played at some point or another. When I see it, I see it for what it is: an admission by a member that he or she really doesn't possess the knowledge or conviction necessary to support a point of view with logic or facts.

As an ad hominem argument, labeling other members "disinfo agents" is a fallacy, an admission of failure. Seen for what it really is, dealing with it is much easier.

Over time, most members mature beyond the "disinfo agent" phase, learn to accept their own fallibility and adopt a greater respect for differing points of view.

It rarely happens overnight, but when it does happen, it's satisfying to see, because it becomes yet another example of how the ATS community can Deny Ignorance.




(Just my personal opinion, nothing more.)



[edit on 5/7/2009 by Majic]

Originally posted by HooHaa
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic

 

The problem that I have encountered is when my opinion differs from someone else's. Just because I did't agree with a topic that has circumstantial or shaky evidence. Doesn't mean I'm a dis info agent.

I feel that that label gets tossed around way too much on this site.

People are going to have different opinions. Especially when it comes to the alien and other highly controversial topics.

Labeling them dis info agents and then attacking them doesn't seem like the right way to handle it.

You make a great point. My origional post was definitely NOT directed at the "grey area" topics, as at this point ALL of the information pertaining to Aliens etc is speculation and opinion.

I am more speaking to those that, as the OP said, take the media's word as law, and dont consider doing their own homework on the subject.

Originally posted by SaraThustra
reply to post by king9072

 

Sleep little brother, relax, when you're ready you'll know the truth. ~

this is funny Sara you are so smug in your opinion but i bet deep down you are just holding on to some belief that keep's your "piece of mind" together

Yes right now with a Dem in office fox tends to have better news IMO then MSNBC i seriously can't stand MSNBC talking head Olberman....he should have stayed at ESPN......but guess what......when there is a REPUB in office.....guess who will be more accurate to watch CNBC or MSNBC because they will call out the rebups on the Same B.S.......

so on the one hand fox is sometimes (For me) anyway "watchable" ........with a DEM in office.....but still how much can you trust a news anchor and station whose editor is so into just bashing the other side to get ratings since the stupid sheep love to hear that they "picked the winning side or in this case most american's "picked a loser"............

The thing with the MSM is that right now i would beleive that the OLDER GENERATIONS still depend on them (the majority of that population) for news.....and they are still indoctrinated by the propoganda they dish out for they never thought .....hey is this just corporate marketing......spitting out perspectives that PIMP OUT any financial institutions to sell more adspace or cater to the party line and the associated sheep who cheer for his/her own party....

I think the MSM is a bit concerned that in about 15 years .....as the population ages there will be a larger concentraton of people turning away from the TV and into the alternate news there.....and i'm sure they are drafting up some type of plan to get more online views/MKT share

King this is a great post!
Im not going to star you cause everyone else has done that. I'd buy you a drink if you lived in D.C.
The media is being used as a tool for our government...I would say at every level. A economic spike and steer program that was long purchased by the "friends of..i.e. private persons of the government". They measure the out come of certain news stories. I don't have smoking gun printed mandate for this but I can very well see it happeneing. The media shapes and steers our public on daily basis. Look at all the nonsense on the media and web that gets you to look over here while are real story goes down over there that certain people might not want you to see. And you've got to look at the ratings...its all about agenda and marketing dollars. If the news is reporting crap and they arent selling advertising slots on the major cable news slots well guess what they will generate public intrest in a story to drive marketing dollars in prime slots and if it spreads to local levels then the local markets can heat up there local marketing slots as well.
Oh its real...the dis-information in out here cause they are here to drive you from information that matters to information the pays for media time slots and paves political and economica agenda's.

you the King. star and flag for the thread.

I do not know if you heard about the student who wrote in wikipedia some fake quote in article describing the Maurice Jarre (french musician and composer, who died on 20th of March). after his death the mainstream media has took that fake quote and use it in the articles.

it shows how they check information and where they take it from (except the given by the certain powers). internet is a key for information now. important is to defend internet as a worldwide net and do not allowed to control it. with internet you can even discredit the mainstream media pretty easy as that student did.

take care friend

reply to post by Majic



Thank you Majic what an awesome response, nothing there I can disagree with.

Originally posted by Majic The truth is, there are so many people who are willing to do the same thing for free, and for their own reasons, that having organizations spend money to do it is somewhat redundant. ]

Agreed with most everything except quote above.

www.bukisa.com...

I also recently read that Dell computers pays techs to roam computer forums to monitor customer perceptions / issues.
( Looking for that link. Read in Times Union newspaper in Jacksonville 04/17/09
Tech section.)

So, I suspect if companies are doing it so is the government. (Certainly Law enforcement.)

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
here
One of the tidbits I didn't mention is that the thread has also been heavily visited by nearly every intelligence and law enforcement agency you can imagine.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Regards...KK

[edit on 7-5-2009 by kinda kurious]

So many admins, so little applause, I love how the member base can have such a varied idea of quality thread writing than that of the admins. Bah, shouldn't have brought them up.

excellent post , my friend, but if I push my Phildickian button to the maximum, I'd say YOU are the disinfo agent

isn't helping us figuring out who is a disinfo agent exactly what the disinfo ring wants us to do?

I am wondering if some people even read my post in its entirety. People fail to see that I am practically not discussing disinfo agents perse, at all.

Originally posted by king9072
I am wondering if some people even read my post in its entirety. People fail to see that I am practically not discussing disinfo agents perse, at all.

Honestly I don't think the message is getting lost (though I may be wrong and it could be)...the message is the ring that IS the disinformation agent, not individuals, but conglomerates that house it.

The message is there, I'm fairly certain there are enough intelligent people on here to see the message for what it's worth, but with that said, it's up to us to finish the equation. To use critical thought process to ensure it isn't poisoning our vision or clarity on issues. That we become educated on these same issues that this single entity (the disinformation ring) would have us take face value via dogma. IMHO, the disinformation agents are all of us to a degree by our complacency. We feed our own delusions and create a tense information environment by not willing to reap the benefits of such education.



AB1

Originally posted by king9072
I am wondering if some people even read my post in its entirety. People fail to see that I am practically not discussing disinfo agents perse, at all.

With all due respect. I find your above quote puzzling when the thread title is:

"Biggest DISINFO agent ring in the world!"

Perhaps a Yard Sale approach is not well suited to focusing on certain topics.

Not sure about your no applause comment, the ones I have gotten sometime take days or weeks if ever. But what do I know, as of late, I've been losing points faster than free chicken at KFC.

Besides, my experience has been that once you press the "Post New Topic" button you lose ownership and these things take on a life of their own.

Relax there's always tomorrow.

Regards...KK