Remote viewing Tibetan monks see Extra Terrestrial powers saving the World from destroying itself in

Originally posted by Fluffytron
Quoting wikipedia:

"Estimates for the total casualties of the war (WWII) vary, but most suggest that some 60 million people died in the war, including about 20 million soldiers and 40 million civilians."

Just one question, if I might:
What gives you the hope that the ETs will make it this time around

I think people are missing something here... It's more than likely more about the planet than us. They didnt come last time because we were merely killing ourselves, I would assume it would be very different if we threatened the planet's survival. I hate to say it but I truly dont believe the planet is ours but that we were rather placed here.

This is why they seem to display interest in all things nuclear, planets are owned whereas we just spend a soujourn on them. Considering the amount of time it takes for a planet to develop into something like our earth, I completely understand why another, more advanced species, would do anything to protect it.

Possibly it's exactly what the Monk's are saying, rather than E.T it's actually divine entities, celestial artisans if you will. Afterall, there needs to be a 3 dimensional learning place for all souls to soujorn, one that is based in time as Generation exists in Time, and Qualities in Generation. It is only in Time that we can develop these Qualities through Generations. I doubt the overseers of these "schools" we call a home are going to allow the students to burn it to the ground.






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I suspect the situation is less a matter of them coming to save and more akin to absentee owners of a property finding the livestock and local wild life got it into their head to render the property not only trashed but unusable for any purposes.

Mass extinctions moving up to the parts of the ecosystem that really matter, such as basic structure species like bats and bees, poisoning the environment with toxins that will last past our current civilization quite likely, introduction of GMO's and other fertility decreasing substances into the environment aggravating the species die off.

Given all that how do the caretaker/observer species prevent the environment collapsing back to the level of mostly just plants, molds, and some insects while not destroying what investment in the human race they and other species have made?

very compelling storu, i'm greatly looking to see how the next few years progress.

i would love for ETs to make themselves openly known in my lifetime.

If the world does end up as predicted; on a road to complete and utter destruction, of course I'd hope for ET's to intervene and save us.

However, what I can't help but wonder is.... why would they?

While we aren't always the most civil of creatures, we also aren't still living in caves, running from the shadows and booming thunder from the skies. That implies we have a decent understanding of the world. Not complete or even 'advanced' - just a decent understanding.

We already know what we're doing to our world. We should be able to over come our cultural differences and work together and use new, emerging technologies to help us overcome and work with our planet. Not just for military might or other covert operations to try and rule each other.

And I would guess that said ET's might think, "Well, look at you -- you've fuct it up for yourselves. You all have to live on this planet and you've have a few thousand years of advancing knowledge to try and work together. And even now, when you should know better, you act like you don't and live for individualistic needs. Why should we help you?"

Sorry, a bit pessimitic, I know.

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you missed the point. we are all connected, all part of "God" so when you let sometihng else die, you let yourself die instead of living. Ditch the science to the degree that you are NOT using it. Only use it to save. peace and love. Thanks aliens!

The air is pretty thin up there in the monastery.

Is there any scientific documentation supporting the existence of 'remote viewing'?

I mean, if they've practiced it in Tibet for 'Thousands" of years, shouldnt they have gotten it right by now?

And at the very least, be able to demonstrate the ability to an observer?

No?

2012 is going to be a big disappointment to many people, when the aliens fail to land in Washington, bigfoot stays in his cave and the Loch Ness monster manages to not sun itself on the beach for tourists to photograph.

Originally posted by mortalengine

Originally posted by Fluffytron
Quoting wikipedia:

"Estimates for the total casualties of the war (WWII) vary, but most suggest that some 60 million people died in the war, including about 20 million soldiers and 40 million civilians."

Just one question, if I might:
What gives you the hope that the ETs will make it this time around

I think people are missing something here... It's more than likely more about the planet than us. They didnt come last time because we were merely killing ourselves, I would assume it would be very different if we threatened the planet's survival. I hate to say it but I truly dont believe the planet is ours but that we were rather placed here.

This is why they seem to display interest in all things nuclear, planets are owned whereas we just spend a soujourn on them. Considering the amount of time it takes for a planet to develop into something like our earth, I completely understand why another, more advanced species, would do anything to protect it.

Possibly it's exactly what the Monk's are saying, rather than E.T it's actually divine entities, celestial artisans if you will. Afterall, there needs to be a 3 dimensional learning place for all souls to soujorn, one that is based in time as Generation exists in Time, and Qualities in Generation. It is only in Time that we can develop these Qualities through Generations. I doubt the overseers of these "schools" we call a home are going to allow the students to burn it to the ground.






[edit on 4/20/09 by mortalengine]

[edit on 4/20/09 by mortalengine]

Wow....Totally agree.
This earth is god's garden,and we're here experiencing 3rd dimension.
People say aliens are bad guys.
Well there are the bad guys and the good guys.
The Angels and the Demons,Light and Dark...
That's duality were living.
This is necessary for our souls to evolve.
Don't you guys realize that don't matter if your parents told ya not to this and that.
You need to try it yourself to understand it totally.
That is pretty obvious to me.
Peace

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I've studied Tibetan Buddhism and the fact is that the monks have spent a couple of thousand years perfecting meditation, remote viewing, peaceful ethical practices, psychology and so forth. They are extremely advanced in their understanding of human nature and spirituality. The Dalai Lama is without any doubt in my mind the most spiritually advanced human on the planet today.

What I'm trying to say is that these monks do know what they are talking about.

My own personal opinion is that there may be competing forces in the cosmos that want to takeover or affect our gem of a planet for opposing purposes. I think there well may be, as the monks suggest, a benevolent extraterrestrial power desiring to help Earth and help humans develop and that these are the "good guys" out there, however my intuition is that there may be dark forces trying to someday replace humans with genetic hybrids for their own selfish imperialism. I sense that there are these competing powers jockeying for strategic advantage.

The Earth is the green, water planet of our solar system and I suspect that planets very similar to Earth are few and far between in the universe and are seen as gems or jewels of rare value in the cosmos.

My opinion is that Earth has been visited by hundreds of different extraterrestrial civilizations over the course of world history. I think we are well known in the larger universe. We are being watched, for sure, but I think it is like they are studying us to see how we learn and develop but at any moment "they" could take total control of our planet.

The big war of 2012 will perhaps not be a war between countries and societies on Earth but it could be an extremely intense and out-in-the-open war between extraterrestrial civilizations both vying for control of Earth or perhaps many competing forces not just two. We may be sitting on the sidelines watching this unfold in 2012.

Prepare your fallout shelter and buckle up for the bumpy ride.

I was listening to an old recording of Art Bell with Terence Mckenna. They were talking about 2012 and Terrence's time wave zero and Art mentioned that all of the remote viewers that he had on the show cannot see past 2012. They describe it as a wall that they can't penetrate. I personally think that around 2012 we will make contact with the ET's. That would have to be a paradigm shattering contact. Our world will never be the same after that. I think that’s what the Maya were talking about with this world dying and a new one being born. Another thing Terrence said was that we are in the middle of a planetary birth process and as we all know birth and labor is quite a painful but that’s how we do it.

If they are masters of Remote Viewing, why havent they troubled themselves to demonstrate this fantastic ability to the rest of humanity?

Why havent they used it to avoid Hiroshima? Pearl Harbour? 9/11?

Maybe they could let us in on where a certain Osama Bin Laden fellow is hanging out these days?

Why dont they teach other humans to develop this ability, thus ushering a new era of human civilisation?

Why not, indeed.

Why is that we are all categorized as "man?" Man as a whole is bad, but I am an individual that is good, who tries to make the world a better place. There are millions more like me. We do not deserve to die.

They have opened up once secret knowledge because they understand that if they don't reveal a lot of their wisdom and knowledge it is in danger of disappearing altogether, since the Chinese are determined to destroy their culture.

They are not concerned with proving their abilities to the rest of the world, but they have worked diligently and patiently to try to move the world forward toward a more peaceful existence.

Our current Dalai Lama has written many books that have been published worldwide. Read some of these and you'll see how they are intended to help lead the world toward peace. A great deal of wisdom is revealed in the writings of the Dalai Lama.

Better yet, join a meditation group (mine has been Nyingma Palyul) and study with a Kenpo and/or a Lama. You will find that they will teach you whatever knowledge you are ready for and unlike Christian preachers, they will teach you with pure humble compassion and no egotism whatsoever.

Don't take my word for it... ask a Lama or Kenpo for some counseling. You will then see the meaning of compassion and care. If you don't believe me, try it. They are readily available in the USA and UK. I know Nyingma Palyul makes them available and other traditions within Tibetan Buddhism are equally open to teaching "the West". Like I said, they have no ego about it. They just want to help mankind really. But if you ask them to display their gifted knowledge and techniques by performing "magic tricks" for you (like telling you where Bin Laden is), you will be disappointed because they don't see any need to perform for anyone.

Originally posted by Lhuhikwdwoo
I suspect the situation is less a matter of them coming to save and more akin to absentee owners of a property finding the livestock and local wild life got it into their head to render the property not only trashed but unusable for any purposes.

Mass extinctions moving up to the parts of the ecosystem that really matter, such as basic structure species like bats and bees, poisoning the environment with toxins that will last past our current civilization quite likely, introduction of GMO's and other fertility decreasing substances into the environment aggravating the species die off.

Given all that how do the caretaker/observer species prevent the environment collapsing back to the level of mostly just plants, molds, and some insects while not destroying what investment in the human race they and other species have made?

Yup - that was my assumption too.

Originally posted by noonebutme
If the world does end up as predicted; on a road to complete and utter destruction, of course I'd hope for ET's to intervene and save us.

However, what I can't help but wonder is.... why would they?

While we aren't always the most civil of creatures, we also aren't still living in caves, running from the shadows and booming thunder from the skies. That implies we have a decent understanding of the world. Not complete or even 'advanced' - just a decent understanding.

We already know what we're doing to our world. We should be able to over come our cultural differences and work together and use new, emerging technologies to help us overcome and work with our planet. Not just for military might or other covert operations to try and rule each other.

And I would guess that said ET's might think, "Well, look at you -- you've fuct it up for yourselves. You all have to live on this planet and you've have a few thousand years of advancing knowledge to try and work together. And even now, when you should know better, you act like you don't and live for individualistic needs. Why should we help you?"

Sorry, a bit pessimitic, I know.

I would tend to agree except for the fact that this is not what we actually want but what we are controlled into having. All you need to do is look at how protestors get treated and look at the lengths they're having to go just to make their voice known, forget about changing the world, they're just trying to raise awareness and they're being nailed for it. Look at what happened to the hippies when they tried their movement of a less industrialized world.

I think what we need to realise is that the people who truly want to make the world a better place are 9 times out of 10 quite average or even slighty poor. Those that aren't are nowhere near powerful enough to have good enough connections in the right places. The people driving us into the ground are also the people who either cant see the issues or just dont care as their totally and utterly blinded by money and the acquisition of material wealth. Hence why poorer people are more able to see what truly is important, they dont have the greed blinkers on.

If we think like that, it's more plausible to see that there might be an intervention, as the population is no longer in control or even having a say in the decisions being made. We're probably not even aware of the more severe attrocities being carried out in secret, this is why I really feel for good people who get into positions of power and/or see/know things, they wrestle with themselves daily as to what the morally correct thing to do is, all the while their families and loved ones hang as colateral.

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Well, anyone who can remote view bin Laden now would only see his long-decomposed body, but that's another discussion... Is there any documentation of predicting the future among any remote viewers or whomever they're associated with? This secretive, "classified information" nonsense has to end! True that I'm more likely to trust remote viewers associated with Buddhism than I am with those of any government-military persuasion.

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You said :
I just think they are all into this occult stuff, and they just do not tell us, except from a few people who leave now and again.

Allow me to suggest there are perhaps many more than you would imagine who are 'into this occult stuff,' as you say ...

The good news is - not all of them are practicing these 'dark' arts.

But to answer your question, they think they are better than us, because yes they do have more power and money than us.

Well, as is true for everybody, believe it or not, what 'they' think happens to be exclusively 'their' problem !

I don't think there is any reason for an advanced species of ETs to waste their resorces and time to help us when we've had hundreds of thousands of years to progress on our own.

What effect would the destruction of the human race have on this massive universe? Nothing. One planets destruction out of trillions won't forge a negative side-effect onto anyone or anything in the universe. We're just a single grain of sand hanging around in a massive beach.

Originally posted by DohBama
If they are masters of Remote Viewing, why havent they troubled themselves to demonstrate this fantastic ability to the rest of humanity?

Why havent they used it to avoid Hiroshima? Pearl Harbour? 9/11?

Maybe they could let us in on where a certain Osama Bin Laden fellow is hanging out these days?

Why dont they teach other humans to develop this ability, thus ushering a new era of human civilisation?

Why not, indeed.

Firstly, the minute they start telling us the future it really becomes their future and not ours, nothing is learnt by avoidance - if they told us would anyone have even listened ? - If they had told us and we had avoided it would we have thought it would never happen ? - If they had told us and it did happen do you think the world would ever have heard that the monks warned us ?

People that are given these gifts or rather, people who attain these gifts through understanding, dont use them for material purposes as they are not meant for material gain. I always find it funny how material minded people always want to try and drag higher frequency things into a lower frequenies, the nature of frequency is such that it would be impossible.

By the way, Tibetan lamas are well aware of the multiverse (multiple parallel dimensions) and they are also well aware of the true nature of time.

There are extremely intricate levels and aspects of karma, past lives and future lives vis a vis spirituality, that the lamas understand and you would need to be quite advanced in your studies to grasp the details of some of the concepts involved. I'm not nearly that advanced, but I know that they know a lot of very advanced concepts of quantum physics and the like.

Tibetan lamas have not spent 2,500 years developing their knowledge and wisdom for naught (no pun intended ~nothingness is part of the knowledge~) but they have developed knowledge for the simple reason of helping to transform the human species into a peaceful and compassionate species thereby facilitating the advent of a kind of "heaven on Earth" which believe it or not is possible.

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You said :
Well, anyone who can remote view bin Laden now would only see his long-decomposed body, but that's another discussion...

If I read your assertion properly, you are claiming to be a remote-viewer yourself ...

If this is indeed the case, and in addition you have some amount of private funds, even a remarkably insignificant amount by western standards, I could recommend a few Tibetan monestaries that would 'grab you up' almost immediately !

Is there any documentation of predicting the future among any remote viewers or whomever they're associated with?

There is quite a large body of both Buddhist and Hindu prophesy which has come down to us from the 'old days,' some of which I myself am even familiar with.

These prophesies tend to be 'rather sectarian' in nature, and it's kind of my sense thay might only have interest for the relative 'specialist.'