Trillions of stars/galaxies.."untrue" (conspiracy).

the Pinhead theory...

Once upon a time, on a dark n stormy night, there was a tiny speck the size of a "pinhead". One day it went Kapoweeeooohhhllyybahumbug,,,

...and presto, here we are...

The "pinhead" theory.

or could it be "this".

www.fixedearth.com...

I would think if you were going to go this route you would use something a little more believable.

If I was asked to debate it and told I believed trillions was a conspiracy, I would go the route that all these stars or light emitting bodies in the sky are hundreds of millions if not billions/trillions of years old. Then explain they are all dead in reality but we won't know that for another billion years because the light of the current state of the body has not actually reached our planet yet.

As for the way he approached it I was wondering if he was actually serious or meant it as a joke.

Originally posted by dirtusbagious
or could it be "this".

www.fixedearth.com...

You really like your site, don't you? Resolutely ignoring reality is not a very good way to prove your theory is correct. Instead, try proving 99.99% of current science is wrong.

This nonsense still going on two pages later? Wow.

Do we really have anybody whose agreed thus far? Reflections? His only source a very christian based biased website?

Come on folks, let's leave the pretty troller alone and go about our lives discussing issues that make sense.

~Keeper

Have you looked over the entire website? I hate to say it, but this author appears to be extremely ignorant of any scientific findings within the past 1000 years (at least).

Examples:
1) Earth is the center of the universe.
2) Evolution is illegal to teach
3) Physics uses faked math.

It goes on and on. This site scares me.

reply to post by dirtusbagious


It could be that, yes...

...or not. More likely not.

You've made the statement that it's all a big conspirecy...let's see your proofs. So far, I've seen none.

You're challenged, are you up for it?

reply to post by seagull


www.rense.com...

though not quite what I was looking for I simply resorted to an article (one of many) that explains the gullibility of most, as well as how "information" is fed them.

The view of an "infinite" universe does have the effect of turning "us"/"this planet" into little more than a worthless speck of dust rather than the place where the ultimate battle of good vs. evil is to take place. That we are the centerpiece of all things created.

Do you believe in reincarnation? many do. So what happens when this planet is blasted to smithereens by, say, an asteroid? (perhaps you have an answer) (i don't). the point is that perhaps there is an answer of what reality is. And I'm sure there is only one.

is it worth investigating?

ps., here is another page (from the same site). It is basically part #1 claiming the universe is only one half of one light day thick.

www.fixedearth.com...

Can "I" prove it? Unfortunately not. But I simply feel a book that is a couple thousand years old, and an all time best seller may be a source worth checking as the 1st of the 2 links I've posted on this reply does, at least for me, cast some doubt on most so called "credible sources" available today.

The articles come from this site

www.antichristconspiracy.com...

I don't agree with "all", but is some interesting reading, (I suppose).

[edit on 21-4-2009 by dirtusbagious]

Originally posted by dirtusbagious


though not quite what I was looking for an article that explains the gullibility of most, as well as how "information" is fed them.

The view of an "infinite" universe does have the effect of turning "us"/"this planet" into little more than a worthless speck of dust rather than the place where the ultimate battle of good vs. evil is to take place. That we are the centerpiece of all things created.

(perhaps you have an answer)

is it worth investigating?

Regarding the gullibility factor

Sometimes you need to investigate no farther than looking in the mirror

reply to post by dirtusbagious


It's a start, but you still are going to need to refute many years of science that directly contradicts your theory.

Let's just say, I'll need a bit more convincing...

Edit to add: I'd like to see some names, too. Who are the scientists, politicians, etc... behind this conspirecy?


[edit on 4/21/2009 by seagull]

I don't see people taking the Iliad word for word.. Just because it's old and a best seller doesn't give it any more credibility.

Also, just to drive the point home: the website you posted was complete BUNK. The worst. Seriously, the guy does not provide anything to back up any of his statements, other than "many scientists", "most scholars", and "the Bible", etc. How does he explain the decay of light that we receive from distant stars? Are all the calculations wrong?

I think we should just take the occams razor to this theory.
Which is simpler: 90% of modern science is wrong and resulted from the conspiratorial collaboration of christianity-hating scientists to purposefully mislead using false occult satanic math, and thus damning the masses who believe in their findings to the Beast, or that scientists aren't collaborating conspiratorially [at least in the field of astronomy] and are just reporting their findings as they sees it.

HMMS?