CNN Reporter at Chicago Tea Party: It's "Anti-CNN Since This is Highly Promoted By the Right-Wing,

reply to post by Swatman

It is Anderson Cooper saying that the protesters are having a hard time talking because they are too busy tea-bagging. Maybe it isn't my business, but Anderson Cooper shouldn't be the one making homosexual jokes. Hypocrite.

I was going to say the same thing.....

It's really just a way for them to minimalize what the people are trying to accomplish.

It's an old tactic, you can marginalize the effectiveness of a message or gripe by the use of humor. Once you make people laugh about it it looses it's validity. Then the message itself becomes a joke.

Old tricks from the left. What's more is that if that were Rush or Hannity that made a comment like that they would be labeled homophobes simply because they are conservatives.

HYPOCRISY IN FULL SWING.

Seems to me that the only show on the CNN network worth watching (that gives a fair view) is Lou Dobbs.

They didn't even bring up that "plant" that was at the Chicago rally, Lou's sit in just listed Chicago as one of the places that they held rallies and spoke in support of the Tea Parties. You may expect such from true reporters and anchor people being that they are supposed to be professionals. They aren't sent out to "mix it up" and insight people.

At least CNN has one good show.

Originally posted by joeofthemountain
This is one of the more thoughtless, knee jerk ATS replies and I've seen a lot of them since joining.

Thank You!

Originally posted by joeofthemountain

How dare you write such nasty, wicked thoughts? How ignorant must you be to proffer such demonstrably false information?

It wasn't that bad, just calling it like I see it.

Originally posted by joeofthemountain

Why can you not comprehend that many people -- especially older citizens who have an entire lifetime of experience and judgment on their side -- reject the socialist envy and greed you were spoonfed your entire life?

Because they were raised on an older style of thinking.... and obviously times have shifted and older people refuse to accept this. And this "many" people you speak of obviously is not enough because the American population VOTED FOR OBAMA. Should he be impeached because you are older then me?

Originally posted by joeofthemountain


Why do you think hard working people wouold absent themselves from jobs and responsibilities to protest the government STEALING THEIR MONEY AND ENSLAVING THEIR LIVES BY PROXY?

They obviously feel very strongly about this issue, I'm not disputing that fact... and if you read a little further down I will address my attempt of sarcasm.

Originally posted by joeofthemountain


Or are only asinine, Soviet-sponsored causes like "civil rights" and "global warming" allowed for protest? Are only stupid college students and the unemployed allowed to protest? Are only recipients of cash grants and government welfare money allowed to protest?

Not at all, I personally thing it's pretty cool/scary that many people can be rallied up so quickly... Maybe the Dems need to cut back on the pot and they can move as swiftly. I never once said that you can not protest, you are assuming. I don't personally get your connection of civil rights and global warming to the Soviets... But i do believe both are issues that are very important to not only Americans but just about every other country.

Originally posted by joeofthemountain


I paid more in taxes last year than you made gross. I have had ENOUGH government intrusion in my life. I have had ENOUGH THEFT OF MY LABOR. And I intend to fight from this point forward, matching the force arrayed against me point-for-point.

Well unfortunately we all gotta do what we all gotta do. If you don't like the tax policy in our country you are free to leave. I'm sure if you paid over 40,000 last year then you are doing pretty good. You can probably afford a beautiful house in Jamaica for dirt cheap and live off your savings.... Plus the Social Security that you will recieve will probably be abundant, i assume you have worked for over 40 years. Not to mention some of my taxes will be contributing to your retirement... You're welcome by the way.

Originally posted by joeofthemountain


It is a shame you miss this entire concept because that means someone else will be forced to support you, in whole or in part, for a very long time.

It's not that I'm missing the concept, I just disagree with you because i make less money, as does the majority of Americans.

Now onto the AntiAmerican BS, I didn't actually mean they were freedom haters or anti-american, i was being sarcastic and imitating how news organizations spin things. Maybe i shouldn't have been so vague, and maybe you shouldn't assume how much money i make. It's funny how you decide to fight this point forward... Where were all of the protesters for the past 8 years? We have had social programs inact for decades, why now all of a sudden are people up in arms? Once again I will type what i have typed a hundred times over, OBAMA MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT HE WILL IMPOSE A STIMULUS PLAN IF HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT. HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT, SO NOTHING NEW HAS CHANGED.

We need taxes, and we need people to man up and pay for them. If we stop these programs people will just get more and more poor while rich people get more and more money. But hey, if you want to be greedy that is your prerogative... I know first hand I've worked my ass off for the past 8 years non-stop and gladly pay taxes.... ok I complain sometimes about it but ultimately i know it helps people and I like to help people.

As I watched that interview clip this morning for the first time I just thinking to myself that female reporter has absolutely NO idea why people are protesting - or least she had some preconceived notion in her head as to why SHE thought they were there. Nice journalism! That clip is an embarrassment for CNN it's no wonder they are vying for 3rd or 4th in news ratings.

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Thanks for posting the link for that. That's something that CNN, or the government doesn't want the public to see.

Imagine if the people and God forbid the rest of the world were to see that the discontent in this country is not just felt by "right wing extremist", as proved by that clip of democrats and republicans side by side protesting a corrupt government.

Havent read all the points to now so forgive me if im reposting....at any rate

I attended the tea party here in new orleans, and let me tell you, it was all republicans, i was probably one of the only 3 or 4 nonaffiliated there. Further, there were massive amounts of signs denigrating obama and socialism, as if obama is a socialist, and as if any of our current policy is socialism. And further, in our great "chocolate city" of new orleans, there wasnt a single african american there. Bipartisan? Hardly. The majority of the people there were busy blaming obama and the democrats for the current events, which shows that they have no real understanding of history, socialism, or our government policies.

To the one earlier stating that "socialism" and government regulation is the reason for our crisis...its actually the opposite. It is deregulation of laws that kept banking under control that ran this mess, starting with the repeal of the glass-steagal act, and even now being kept going by allowing the banks, unregulated, to lie about their books and their assets and to give them trillions in unregulated bail out money.

Secondly, NOTHING we have in our country is akin to socialism, a system where the main point is that the people (all the people, not just a wealthy minority as it is in the US) own the means of production. It is NOT socializing medicine to make the government pay for it, because the OWNERS of the healthcare are still the doctors, the AMA, the Insurance giants, and Big Pharma. When government combines with corporations, thats not socialism, thats Fascism, and largely what we have here, as many of our legislations are pushed through by huge industry lobbing and payoffs. So..... If you cant tell the difference between the government giving all our tax dollars to massive banks and regulating bank practices and mandating honesty.....and socialism (ownership OF the banks by the people, no more predatory lending, the people all vote on policy) than please shut up about "socialism" as all your truly spreading is red scare propaganda and disinformation.

And lastly to the idea that fox news hasnt started or hijacked the tea party... i dont know if you guys noticed, but on foxes broadcasts it is called the "FNC tea party" ....yes fox even labeled it with their name, and sent key fox news members (hannity, etc) to different cities to start and promote the tea party. John stewart did a great show on it on the daily show wednesday night.

reply to post by WinoBot


Again, sitting by on the sidelines while our president rights bad checks to the tune of trillions and trillions is not in my nature. He has spent more in under 100 days than Bush did in eight years with two wars. If you have any grasp of economics and have studied the past you'll see what is coming down the pipe.

Originally posted by chise61
A government that is trying to push a socialist agenda, in a country that was founded to be a republic and nothing else.

You say it's socialist, I... and highly educated economists say it is to save our economy from failing.

Originally posted by chise61

A government that excessively taxes the citizens and refuses to represent them as they should.

I THINK I'M WELL REPRESENTED. WHEN I HAVE PROBLEMS I CALL MY OFFICIALS AND LET THEM KNOW. THE COLONISTS WERE UNABLE TO DO THIS AND THAT IS WHY THEY WERE UPSET.

Originally posted by chise61
A government that has become so full of themselves that they have forgotten that they work for the people.

THIS IS SUBJECTIVE, ONCE AGAIN I FEEL I AM REPRESENTED.

Originally posted by chise61
A government that attempts to take away the constitutional rights of the citizens.

I AGREE THE 10th IS TRAMPLED ON CONSTATNLY, WE DO NEED TO WORK ON THAT... BUT THE SECOND ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.... AND IF THEY ARE RESTRICTED THEN SO WHAT. AS LONG AS YOU ARE A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN YOU CAN GET YOUR GUNS.

Originally posted by chise61
A government that labels law abiding citizens as potential terrorist threats because they believe in their constitution, their 2nd amendment rights, their immigration laws, etc.

I READ THE WHOLE REPORT AND DIDN'T SEE THAT ONCE. THEY DIDN'T LABEL ANYONE ANYTHING... THEY GAVE SCENARIOS OF "COULD HAPPEN" SITUATIONS, I'M SORRY... "DID HAPPEN" SITUATIONS. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN OKLAHOMA? I'M PRETTY SURE TIMMY WAS MAD AT HIS GOVERNMENT, WAS A HUGE GUN ADVOCATE AND WAS AGAINST IMMAGRATION... IT'S CALLED BEING PREPARED FOR THE WORST, AND IT IS MOST CERTAINLY POSSIBLE.

Originally posted by chise61
A government that forces the citizens to pay for the bailout of bussinesses in a free market society.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. AT FIRST I FIGURED BANKS WOULD PAY BACK THE AMOUNT OVER TIME WITH DIVIDEND... BUT I HAVE READ NOTHING OF THIS ANYWHERE. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP EXPLAIN WHY WE DON'T GET IT PAID BACK.

Originally posted by chise61
Worst of all a government that would label the brave men and women of it's own military as possible terrorist threats to the country that they risked their lives to defend.

THIS IS COVERED IN MY ABOVE REBUTTLE. IT HAPPENED BEFORE, AND IT HAPPENED DURING ROUGH ECONOMIC TIMES.

Originally posted by chise61
These are some of the reasons that people are having tea parties and sending tea bags. That is why so many are trying to peacefully protest now.

If the government officials are so unhappy with this country and so hellbent on changing it, then maybe they should all resign their positions and go work for a government of a country that is more to their liking.

SEEMS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE BUT IT'S A SUGGESTION. I PREFER THEM STAYING HERE, I'M CURIOUS AND OPTIMISTIC ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO TURN OUT.



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Originally posted by on_yur_6


Again, sitting by on the sidelines while our president rights bad checks to the tune of trillions and trillions is not in my nature. He has spent more in under 100 days than Bush did in eight years with two wars. If you have any grasp of economics and have studied the past you'll see what is coming down the pipe.

He had to, the whole idea was a Stimulus Plan, which the American population voted on when they elected him president. If you have a problem with the way we elect our officials I suggest you contact your elected official. I have a pretty decent grasp of economics, and from what I've read, a Stimulus Plan is the best method of fixing our economy, other then completly changing it. I assume you are opposed to the latter.

Something else on the Tea Parties that CNN and others have failed to mention.

There were Tea Parties held in every state, thousands of them. Some of the Tea Parties were held in towns of a few hundred people up to the really big cities. Many of the Tea Parties turned down politicians from both parties who wanted to speak. The organizers wanted to keep the events nonpartisan.

The media knows all of this, yet they spin it up to look like a "Republican" movement. I am guessing that by doing this the MSM thinks that they can discourage Democrats from participating and, judging from the posts that I have read on this thread and others, they have been pretty successfull doing it.

The fact is though, Congress passed a spending bill that they did not read. That is the issue and that is what has gotten people up in arms. Those who are posting that Obama promised a stimulus plan, that is true but we expected him to thoughtfully consider the bill not rubber stamp it without reading it. Then when we learn that we are paying million dollar bonuses with the stimulus package, Obama says, "Hey, I didn't know that was in there." OK, did you vote for that? Do you consider that to be representation? I don't. That is what the Tea Parties are about.

There are people around the world who actually think CNN is for the people, and it is not Anti-Capitalist when it's founder is a COMMUNIST, even "Jane Fonda" has stated he has been a COMMUNIST all along..

Hell, the founder, and most powerful man behind CNN, Ted Turner, said it himself that CNN international was an idea by none other than FIDEL CASTRO....

I thank you very much for being here tonight. Let me also thank Fidel Castro. In the earliest days of CNN, when CNN was meant to be seen only in the United States, the enterprising Fidel Castro was pirating and watching CNN in Cuba. Fidel was intrigued by CNN. He wanted to meet the person responsible. So Ted Turner, who at that point had never traveled to a Communist country or knowingly met a Communist, [went to Havana]. It was big deal for Ted and during the discussions Castro suggested that CNN be made available to the entire world. In fact it was that seed, that idea that grew into CNN International, which is now seen in every country and territory on the planet.

www.nieman.harvard.edu...


Why would a known COMMUNIST that has repressed the Cuban people for 50 years, and which is the mastermind o fa Socialist/Communist system that has imprisoned, and even murdered people who were critical of the Communist Cuban regime would give the idea to COmmunist Ted Turner to make CNN International?...

You think Fidel Castro wanted CNN to go international because it spreads truth, freedom, and the good for all people?.....


Jane Fonda herself, who was married to Ted Turner, has stated, and I quote:

Fonda Recounted Ted Turner's Atheism and Boasting of Communist Friends

By Tim Graham (Bio | Archive)
April 20, 2006 - 17:37 ET

There are a few other more personal notes in the Barbara Walters interview with Jane Fonda on PBS. Ted Turner's first words on his first date with Fonda are a little bizarre: "We got in the car. His first words to me was, ‘some of my best friends are communists. I’m thinking, ‘did he say that because he thinks I’m a communist, and it won’t get in the way’?" He named Gorbachev and Castro as his close friends.

Walters told Fonda "We all though that was a marriage that was pretty special." She asked "What broke it up? The rumor was that you became spiritual. You found religion. He didn’t like that." She also mentioned that Turner had adulterous relationships.

Fonda agreed that religion became a problem: "I did it while I was married to him and I didn’t tell him, which is not playing fair actually. But by then, we weren’t on the same team, basically. I felt myself being drawn to faith, very strongly, very viscerally, and Ted was the champion of the debate team at Brown. And I knew that if I talked to him about it, he who was an atheist, he would talk me out of it. And I was so raw and so new with this faith that I didn’t want to expose myself to that. So he found out and got upset, as well he should have. It was not a good thing for me to have done."

Walters: "Is it still very important to you?"

Fonda: "It is. I’m in theology classes in Atlanta, and I’m trying to...I was raised an atheist myself, so I have a lot of catching up to do, to find out what does this mean? So I’m studying theology, the history of religion, the history of the Bible."

Walters: "Do you go to church?"

Fonda: "I do sometimes. I’ve been traveling too much in the last year."

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center

newsbusters.org...


CNN, also known as Castro News Network, or even Communist News Network is there, and it is international because it is anti-Capitalist, it is anti-American, and it is pro-Communist.




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Another thing to remember is often the media doesn't really want the views of the "average citizen". They want someone who is a little "out there". Someone who they cast in the light they choose and that will generate ratings when played on TV.

A small case in point. Several years ago some neighbors won a huge jackpot in the state lottery.

A news crew came to the neighborhood and conducted interviews. They interviewed myself and another lady that lived nearby about how we felt about our neighbor winning the lottery.

I told them, "Yes, I know them well. They are really great people and I couldn't be happier for them. I hate to loose them as neighbors but I wish them nothing but the best. They've just won something most of us will only dream about and I'm really happy for them."

The lady they interviewed became very animated in her comments. She wished it could have been her that won and hoped that the neighbors would spread some of their new wealth around to their friends and neighbors.

Naturally, she was the one that ended up on TV.

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If he has a problem with anything he is free to talk about in here. Like writing his elected official would get him anywhere.

Anyway dont let all the talk in here keep you from your Mein Kompf where the Socialist means of manufacture was run killers and operated by slave labor.

Originally posted by Frogs
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Naturally, she was the one that ended up on TV.

Can you tell us in which news network did this woman appear? Claiming that the family that won the lottery should spread their wealth around the neighborhood because she was jealous.

What i am amazed the most is that even coming from the horses mouth itself, coming from Ted Turner, and Fane Fonda, there are those who love true Socialism, and even Communism and would deny that CNN is nothing more than a propaganda tool for the Communist goals.

In Capitalism there is not just one group, or one person in charge of the whole world economy. The goal to have a one world government, a one world economy is the same goal of the "Permanet Revolution". To have this one world government, and one world bank control the entire population of Earth.... But still there are some people who have been so indoctrinated that they continue believing true Socialism/Communism will free the people of the world....

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reply to post by CuriousSkeptic


Fox has not taken claim for the Tea Parties. It was started independent of Fox. They did promote where they were being held and had correspondents on hand.

CNN I like better, because at least they don't make the slant they have on the story blatant and almost, completely in-your-face lying. that and for the MOST part the reporters themselves try to stay un-biased...for the most part.

Although on the other hand since fox's propaganda is so blatant its easier to block it out of mind and such. which helps keep a neutral opinion of the story which in turn helps you disseminate the truth.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by Frogs
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Naturally, she was the one that ended up on TV.

Can you tell us in which news network did this woman appear? Claiming that the family that won the lottery should spread their wealth around the neighborhood because she was jealous.

It was just a local Tampa FL station for their local news. Not one of the nationals. Its probably been about 13 years or so ago now.

The point I was trying to make wasn't so much about her comments of spreading the wealth around but more about who the picked and why.

I was calm, happy for my neighbors and wishing them well.

The lady was jumping around, talking in a loud voice and hoping that she'll get a slice of the pie.

Her statements and antics made for much "better" TV than mine did.

Much like the how the CNN reporter seems to have picked out one of the more worked up guys in the crowd for her report rather than one of people who confronted her afterward.

Originally posted by WinoBot

Originally posted by chise61
A government that is trying to push a socialist agenda, in a country that was founded to be a republic and nothing else.

You say it's socialist, I... and highly educated economists say it is to save our economy from failing.
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Who are these highly educated economists you speak of? Bernanke? Greenspan? Obama? *Chokes on saliva*
Or how about those lovable characters at Goldman-Sachs?


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Highly educated economists say that national health care is going to save our economy from failing ? Can you pleas explain how that works ?


I and many other americans don't feel that we are being represented. You know i really have tried to call them, but they never seem to be able to come to the phone, or return the call. I have written them and they never seem to read, or reply to my letters. I keep receiving these silly form letters that answer key words in my letter as if some computer read it. It didn't seem like they were representing us when they bailed out wall street while an overwhelming majority of Americans were opposed to it and voiced this to them. I could go on but it'd be a waste of time.


I doubt you'll feel represented much longer, unless you are truely a person that does not believe in the core principles of this country.


The 1st is trampled on, along with the 2nd, and a few others. They're working on making sure that even law abiding citizens won't be able to get one either.


I'm sorry my intent is not to insult you, but if you didn't see it then you must be blind, or brainwashed. Do you know for a FACT that Timothy was any or all of those things? Anything is possible, but you don't target millions of people because of the actions of a few, or in your scenario one.


If you want explanations call one of your representatives in congress that you feel do such a fine job of reprsenting you. The point is not whether or not they pay it back, the point is that they have no right to force the public to bailout private industry in a free market society, there is no getting around that one. Even if it's paid back although the money is being taken from us, it won't be returned to us.


It makes no difference if or when it happened before, the whole of the military should not be judged by what one man did. Funny how we're not allowed to profile anyone except our own citizens and military.


Well the other option is that they could always just change their ways, do what they're supposed to be doing and run this country as was intended. I am an American and i prefer the country go back to the way it was intended to be from the start. You are more than welcome to leave with them to whatever socialistic, facist, or communistic country they prefer.


Edited for spelling and grammatical error.

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