Infinity and Super-Consciousness

I think we are infact the super consciousness. The super consciousness doesnt depend on us and we dont depend on it. We are simply one. We are super consciousness viewing itself subjectively. Of course super consciousness may hold all the secrets to the universe, but because we are HUMAN that type of information is beyond the grasps of our culture. Though each and everyone of us has the potential to access all the knowledge in the cosmos like the akashic records, but our human culture inhibits our growth.

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Originally posted by Tallsorts
Yes, I know that, but it isn’t the scientists who are involved with creation and management of our universe; they are still stumbling around in the dark like everybody else. If you don’t look outside the box for answers, you won’t find out much about how things work.

If they are stumbling around in the dark how is it that you sit on your computer right now connected to a world wide network? I will ignore that last comment as it's quite insulting to my intelligence.

Originally posted by Tallsorts
All that I am doing is to point out a few of the Invisible Realities to you, so that it may spark off a new channel of discovery in your mind.

If these realities can so easily be pointed out, chances are I've contemplated such realities.

Originally posted by Tallsorts
I’m not here to argue the point, or to lead you into any other direction. I’m just presenting certain information, just in case you want to try and search for truth.

Incase? You just assume I'm not looking for the truth...and just incase I do want to you offer the truth do you?

Originally posted by Tallsorts
In my book

What would be the name of this book? Has it been published?

Originally posted by Tallsorts
2. The Awakening DNA – Riga, Latvia, 15th March 2009

I think I already had another person direct me to some recordings obviously of human origin but apparently a message from this energy and how we will begin to use junk DNA...I will say it again, junk DNA is only DNA we have not yet explained the workings of. Just because they call it junk doesn't mean it's laying dormant doing nothing, just that we don't understand it's function yet.

Originally posted by Tallsorts
But, I say again; Planet Earth is coming to the end of an Ice Age.

Is this being "controlled" by some being perhaps? (Not that I don't believe it)

Originally posted by Tallsorts
Earth is now on a path of recovery, which will take a lot of 3rd dimensional linear time to complete; but the pendulum is swinging the other way.

Is an explanation to much to ask for?

Originally posted by Tallsorts
but it doesn’t alter the facts that Creation was, created. It’s certainly nothing to get resentful about.

Creation...was created? I don't quite get that...and if you just mean a creator exists...I'm in no way resentful about that. It's fine if true, it just seems the other way around to me...if I imply a creator doesn't exist you get all hostile. Who knows...I don't...and you certiantly don't...and I'm sorry to say, but it isn't fact.

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Originally posted by Wisen Heimer
I think we are infact the super consciousness. The super consciousness doesnt depend on us and we dont depend on it. We are simply one. We are super consciousness viewing itself subjectively.

I'll just assume that such a consciousness does exist for the sake of conversation, it could exist, but there is really nothing to let us know. I don't think we are the super-consciousness, but a small part of it. We are independent minds with our own thoughts. We are all sub-consciousnesses of a larger super-consciousness.

Originally posted by Wisen Heimer
Of course super consciousness may hold all the secrets to the universe, but because we are HUMAN that type of information is beyond the grasps of our culture. Though each and everyone of us has the potential to access all the knowledge in the cosmos like the akashic records, but our human culture inhibits our growth.

I do think that we are capable of unlocking all the secrets of the universe, but I don't think such secrets would come from a super-consciousness, I think they would come from ourselves. The mind is an extremely complex "thing" and capable of tremendous things. I think that right now, my sub-conscious mind knows the secrets of the universe and my conscious mind just can't tap into that. There are things hidden away in inside your mind but they are of no use to the conscious mind, the here and now, this physical realm where survival of the fittest rules. So, I postulate that upon death, we do live on, and our being changes states, we don't move into another dimension or realm, and the mind undergoes a great transormation and the sub-conscious becomes a very usable and accessable thing.

EDIT: This is what I said in a philosophy forum where I was speaking about something very similar:

I would guess that the senses of our higher self (our spirit) would posses qualities that are free of an adaptation to a particular context, such as the dimension we inhabit while in our physical bodies, and the sensors we have adapted to help us survive on this physical plane, I often read peoples experiences of OBE's and they describe it as if they had gained ultimate sensory perception, like they have become in tune with the entire universe, well, in tune with reality might be a better way of describing it, well, both, and they often develop types of psychic powers, they become connected to their own, and surrounding energy systems on a higher level, the sensory inflow can often be so vivid and overwhelming for some people, that when they do achieve an OBE for the first time, they are shocked back into their physical body. I have achieved an OBE once, when I least expected it, I wasn't even trying, and I hadn't been recently, I just woke up one night, floating on the other side of my room, it took me a second to wake up properly and realize what was going on, but when I did, I was shocked, and suddenly shot up in my bed, during the moment after I realized, which was extremely short, I felt interconnected with the entire universe, everything around, and like energy was flowing in and out of my being, and I could just "feel" things a lot more....well I can't think of a way to explain it, but hopefully you understand what I'm trying to express...my conscious OBE lasted for a very short time, and every day, the memory and feelings I had during that spectacular moment are fading away, it's something I really want to achieve again.

To speak of a consciousness with no context/environment makes no sense, and the spirit does exist in an environment, but that environment is a realm where things can be seen at the most, absolute, fundamental level, and I do believe everything is connected, at the most fundamental level, and we can receive and give energies to any sub-system (eg. other humans, other beings) that makes up the whole system (ie. the universe). Your being is made of the most pure energy, this is the energy that makes up your consciousness, whether there is a physical brain for that energy to flow through, or not, this energy makes up our entire universe at the most fundamental level. I'm am indeed saying that there is an environment in which the consciousness requires no sensory adaptation, that this environment is so fundamental, that adaptation is unnecessary, you realize that you are in fact, a part of this environment, and you can interact with your surrounding environment without adaptation to it, as the environment and you, are one, and you now understand, without really understanding, how to manipulate and communicate with other parts of your fellow environment. Well, that's just my opinion on things.

It's not that it is an alternate environment at all, it's that your perspective on this environment has changed. Your physical body is also a part of this environment, but your perspective and senses have adapted in a context where things need to appear separate, as this is the most efficient way of perceiving things in our physical form. Now, when we leave behind our physical body, no such perceptive restrictions exist, we can very easily open our subconscious mind, which understands the universe on a much deeper level. It is said, that upon death, we have a great mental awakening and transformation, that is unnecessary while in our physical form, so you might say, that the only only adaption needed without a physical body, is conscious understanding of the reality and environment we exist in, as you say, there is a good deal that is not immediately apparent about consciousness and reality. Anyway, since I have only ever achieved a conscious OBE for a split second, and I can hardly recall the wonderful sensations I felt, I can not really give you an example of how communication with our fellow environment works, although I'm sure my subconscious could describe things a lot better if I had access to it, but I can give you what I think are examples of the process in action, they are things like: telepathy, remote viewing, psychokinesis/telekinesis etc. The enormous sensory perception gained is an outcome of understanding things at the most fundamental level, and being able to receive, understand, tap into, and feel the energy that flows in and out of your being, which is why a lot of these skills can be gained while still in your physical form. They aren't as much senses as just being able to understand, receive and give energies to your fellow environment. It's really hard to explain my thoughts on the subject, but I hope you made some sense of that...I was writing a paper on how the mind can manipulate reality, how the universe is an extremely complex, chaotic "web" of interconnected energy, and how we can extract energy from what I like to call "the Aether of nothingness", which is where all the energy in our universe came from. I used the following analogy:

"Remember that one little change in a chaotic system (a change in thought) will result in big changes throughout the whole system, your change will resonate throughout the system, down it's limbs, into it's roots and finally into the Aether of nothingness from which the tree of life sucks it's essence"

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Originally posted by CHA0S We are independent minds with our own thoughts. We are all sub-consciousnesses of a larger super-consciousness.

Are we? Since we don't fully understand it, we can never be sure.
If we are all sub-consciousnesses of a larger super-consciousness, what does my sub-conscious exist of? And is it guiding me or the other way round?

Originally posted by CHA0SI do think that we are capable of unlocking all the secrets of the universe, but I don't think such secrets would come from a super-consciousness, I think they would come from ourselves. The mind is an extremely complex "thing" and capable of tremendous things. I think that right now, my sub-conscious mind knows the secrets of the universe and my conscious mind just can't tap into that.

What if you could tap into your sub-consciousness? Would you do it? Would you be able to keep your sanity if you knew all the implications and see the connections between everything?

IMHO opinion your sub-conscious and your gut feelings are/come from the same thing, your Higher Self. And a lot of people have direct contact with their Higher Self.
Maybe something for you to try?

EDIT: you've edited the same thing in as my post haha

[edit on 14/4/09 by locster]

Originally posted by locster
Are we? Since we don't fully understand it, we can never be sure.
If we are all sub-consciousnesses of a larger super-consciousness, what does my sub-conscious exist of? And is it guiding me or the other way round?

No, we can't be sure, and I was only making that argument on the assumption super-consciousness does exist. With an eternal and infinite being every consciousness in existence would make up the super-consciousness and it probably wouldn't even have a sub-conscious per se. We would still be a part of the super-mind, existing as sub-minds but we wouldn't be like a sub-conscious to the super-consciousness. It would probably be able to tap into what any sub-mind was thinking. The human is a finite being, and the sub-conscious isn't made of seperate, independent minds...it's the "real" mind...it the conscious mind is merely what we get after extensive filtering has taken place. We only get what we need and what is useful. A super-consciousness would be fully aware of all the functioning and computation going on within it, or at leat be able to tap into any aspect of it's self.

Originally posted by locster
What if you could tap into your sub-consciousness? Would you do it? Would you be able to keep your sanity if you knew all the implications and see the connections between everything?

I think I would be a lot more sane. IMO understanding gives sanity. That's why the bulk of humans are so insane.

Originally posted by locster
IMHO opinion your sub-conscious and your gut feelings are/come from the same thing, your Higher Self. And a lot of people have direct contact with their Higher Self.
Maybe something for you to try?

I have always thought that, and I often try to harness and use it. Deep inside we know what the "real" mind is doing and thinking...after all...it's still our mind...it's the real mind.

I'm gunna get some sleep now as it's fairly late here. Have fun. Talk again soon.

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I do think that we are capable of unlocking all the secrets of the universe, but I don't think such secrets would come from a super-consciousness, I think they would come from ourselves. The mind is an extremely complex "thing" and capable of tremendous things. I think that right now, my sub-conscious mind knows the secrets of the universe and my conscious mind just can't tap into that. There are things hidden away in inside your mind but they are of no use to the conscious mind, the here and now, this physical realm where survival of the fittest rules. So, I postulate that upon death, we do live on, and our being changes states, we don't move into another dimension or realm, and the mind undergoes a great transormation and the sub-conscious becomes a very usable and accessable thing.

Thats what I was kind of saying. The secrets of the universe could not come from anywhere else besides ourselvs because we are the superconsciousness and we are all life. Thats why these new agers talk so much about seperation and how negative it is. We can find all the answers in the world as one with the world and eachother. Because the world is us and we are all life. Seperating yourself from yourself gets you nothing but lies and this is why honesty is so important.

Say that there is this superconsciousness and there is an infinite amount of universes within this universe and our universe is but one of an infinite amount in another universe and so on... where does that leave us? As nothings in the peripheral vision of eternity... or in the very middle as everything in existence, as God himself because we are of all of it and all of it is within us. This is the spirit of all life and one can experience such a thing.

Where does the fractal end or begin? It begins and ends at your eyes.

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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
ask this..

WHY DO I ASK?



Because I'm a complex, self-aware being with the ability to question and ask why...



and here is the problem

1) your not complex

2) aware of what?

3) the ablity to question? "ever did qautom physics?"

4) we still dont know why we ask WHY...

Point im making is very very relative to this thread.. its says infinity in the topic correct?

do you wish to listen (read) why ?

a question is the same thing

Your ability to ASK a question is not the point .. try to narrow it down abit

Do you infact know what you are doing when u ask? you are making a choice based on a set of paramaters that were here long befor you long befor me..

its the way the universe WORKS .. now go read a book on quatum physicis.. and understand the question IS the answer,.

You me and ever other life on this planet "and yes even aliens" are all infact asking WHY they are in this universer..

Stop for one minute befor you post.. read this..

can you imagaen a universe withou the function of a choice? can you infact imagen LIFE without a choice to question? a cat a dog ? a tree?

the question IS the reason ITS ALL HERE... its ONE big function of a very very messy simple idea..

read it again " what is the question "? if you look very close at this what do you get? a question asking a question

and you still wonder why we have infinity!

hehe

have a nice day!

Why? Why not?

I think your making all this a bit too complicated. We ask why because we dont know.

Continuing to follow along here, to the best of my ability, has sparked a memory of a book whose name I cannot remember.
The story was one of Quantum Physics told alongside the leading characters fantastical adventure into multiple dimensions.
It skips back and forth between telling his science fiction story and explaining the various dimensions and how one is viewed by the other.
A one dimensional creature, such as a line, has no width, no height. It exists only in its own miniscule dimension and has no conceptof the dimensions above or below.
A 2 dimensional character, such as a shadow cast on the ground, does expands upon the line creature with its width. It knows that the line is there, but is not concerned with this harmless 1 dimensional creature, as it cannot bring harm to the multi-dimensional shadow creature. Of course, the shadow cannot see in depth, so it has no idea what casts it upon the surface, only that it is there.
3rd dimensional creatures, with height, width and depth, pay no mind to the dot or the shadow. Neither of them can reach upward or breach their constraints to cause harm in the dimension of depth. Their meager existance means that they pass right by, below and through without notice and can cause no harm. Of course, those mighty 3 dimensional creatures cannot fathom that which stands above them in the 4th dimension.

Here is where the known meets theory. In the 4th, 5th, 6th, and beyond, dimensions, none are concerned with the dimensions below them and can only theorize the dimensions above them. From the lowest dimenions up, the shape of the higher dimensions is only theory, because their is no science to base from. However, from the higher dimensions down, all is known, because they are both seen as well as considered inconsequential, as no dimension can cause harm to the dimension above it.

It was a really good book and that is the synopsis that I walked away with. In the book, the leading character is pulled upward into the 4th dimension and changes as he goes. Up and up he goes, soaring and changing through dimension after dimension. His shape becomes unrecognizable as the dimensions above become clear and the dimensions below become insignificant.

I cant remember how it ends, only that I couldnt stop reading.

This is the very book that sparked my interest in physics (layman though my knowledge may be) and gave me a wealth of questions about our very existance to challenge myself and those around me with since.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
1) your not complex

If you could even begin to understand how a human brain works you would truly understand how complex we infact are.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
2) aware of what?

Aware that I exist in this universe and this reality. I am aware of my self.Is a computer aware of its self? A tree? Some other animals may be perphaps, but we have something special that allows us to go a step further than just following our programming which has been built in by Mother Nature through survival of the fittest, like other animals, just like a computer follows the programming we build into it. It doesn't realize it exists, it isn't aware of its self.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
3) the ablity to question? "ever did qautom physics?"

Huh..."ever did quantum physics?"? If you’re asking if I have ever studied quantum physics, that's a big yes, and I'm certain I probably know a lot more than you. I explained what I meant by the ability to question in the above. It is the ability to go beyond our mere programming and question things...like "Why are we here?"..."What am I?"..."How did I get here?"..."What is reality?"...humans have this ability unlike many other species on Earth that are essentially biological computers following their programming.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
4) we still dont know why we ask WHY...

And I just explained that. We ask why simply because we have the ability to. We may not yet know precisely the mechanisms that give us this ability but we one day will when we fully understand how the human brain works.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
Your ability to ASK a question is not the point .. try to narrow it down abit

Do you infact know what you are doing when u ask? you are making a choice based on a set of paramaters that were here long befor you long befor me..

its the way the universe WORKS .. now go read a book on quatum physicis.. and understand the question IS the answer..

So...what would these parameters that have existed so long be? And...reading a book on physics will suddenly give me a break though that lets me suddenly understand what you are trying to say? Well, then I should already understand.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
You me and ever other life on this planet "and yes even aliens" are all infact asking WHY they are in this universer..

Stop for one minute befor you post.. read this..

can you imagaen a universe withou the function of a choice? can you infact imagen LIFE without a choice to question? a cat a dog ? a tree?

Yes, I can easily imagine a universe where no life exists and things just "happen" by chance...and I'm pretty sure trees don't have the ability to question things...if that's what you were implying...

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
the question IS the reason ITS ALL HERE... its ONE big function of a very very messy simple idea..

Care to elaborate?

[edit on 15/4/09 by CHA0S]

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There is an animation on "What the Bleep do we know?" which tries to get across that very same concept.

reply to post by Wisen Heimer


we ask coz we do know!!

i know thats the stupest comment ever

but the question is infact why we are here,, it made life the result of the qeustion??

life the other side of the question? well thats the answer, there is another side

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please understand im not here to whine or flame.. just to try to give you abit of insight

what makes you different from me? honestly? what makes me and you apart?

the question.. now i do understand for me to say that sounds dumb and i understand that.. but please dont judge me.. im trying my best to show you why you ask the question.

i dont know you sir.. we are both on ats for a reason.. and what is that reason?

a question a question everything everyone asks WHY .. does this not connect us all? is this not the burning you have inside? to understand the answers?

the question comes befor the answers .. im not here to put u down nore am i here to prove you or anyone wrong.. but what i will do is point out on thing that my life just life yours is missing

what is the question? what is its function? why do you ask what you do why do we all ask what we do?

its because we need it.. its what life does.. the universe as we know it put us here for a reason.. and that reason? is to make a new universe..


babies trees whatever or aliens it dont matter.. what matters is the question

now you may think the way i talk is dumb or does not make sens

why is the sky blue is not my question nore is it urs

its the function OF the question .. can you tell me what a question IS? can you define it?

now maybe you understand what infinity and a question have in common

they are both a line and from this line comes 2 things LIFE and the questioon

you need both.. its the rules

and btw i was doing physics in 1987 its nothing knew to me.. the question will always be here for without the question one can not forumualte or infact postulate the answer..

when you speak you ask.. when i reply to ur posts.. what are we doing?

look at the stars... big big hint my friend

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i think your missunderstanding me when i say the word "question"..

its not about the word but the function of IT.. you see the word qestion to many is "why is the sky blue"

why? is that not the first word? why did you ask if the sky is blue and how does that work out in our life?

its a function.. why are we here? look at my sentance again

why why why

this is the reason for infinity

describe to me what WHY is.. tell me what a WHY is tell me what a the defonition of this word is?

a choice.. a choice of what? you being alive and not understand life? or is it a function of life in order to propigae life?

why do we have kids? why does a tree grow the way it does ? why do we have life?

you see to step back from what we know is always hard to admit we dont know is infact the answer to what we want to find out..

what is the meaning of life??

WHAT is the question this gave rise to the latter - life

understand in that nano seconded of you making a choice.. in that very very small time you wish to say yes or no is the creation of the universe itself the very thing that put your body and mine here..

dont over look it pay attention to it.. alot.. people will abuse this .. they always do

the world is not based on answers .. its based on questions.. there was never a chicken or the egg

there was the question of HOW.. this is what most people dont get

the question

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
now i do understand for me to say that sounds dumb and i understand that.. but please dont judge me.. im trying my best to show you why you ask the question.

If even you think it sounds dumb you can see what I must think of it. Seriously, if you go on with one more post trying to explain to me why I ask the question or what the question is...sheesh...I have given my explanation as to why we ask the question and I will stop there, I thought it out and put it into understandable words. If people want to accept they can, if they don't, they don't...I don't need to keep going on trying to ram my opinion down everyone's throat.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
a question a question everything everyone asks WHY .. does this not connect us all? is this not the burning you have inside? to understand the answers?

It feels good to get an answer and understand things, it's something all humans have in common, but it doesn't connect us.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
but what i will do is point out on thing that my life just life yours is missing

Huh?!?

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
what is the question? what is its function? why do you ask what you do why do we all ask what we do?

The question is what ever the question happens to be, and I already explained what the question is a result of...complexity and self-awareness.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
its because we need it.. its what life does.. the universe as we know it put us here for a reason.. and that reason? is to make a new universe..

The "universe" put us here...for a reason...which is to make a new universe...do you care to elaborate on anything you say and all the things I have asked you about in previous posts but you just ignore. To me it just seems like you are spouting off a whole heap of random crap without explaining anything properly and hoping it some how makes sense.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
what matters is the question

That must be the 99th time you've said by now...it's like you think no one is understanding anything you say and you have to repeat it 100 times over...trust me...I do see what you are trying to say.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
now you may think the way i talk is dumb or does not make sens

You've also said that at least 99 times...and it's spelt "sense" just so you know...

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
its the function OF the question .. can you tell me what a question IS? can you define it?

A question is an expression of inquiry in order to find/discuss/consider/analyze/examine a certain problem/concept/idea that is not understood/explained/known. As Wisen Heimer stated, you’re over complicating things to the extreme. "We ask why because we don’t know."

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
now maybe you understand what infinity and a question have in common

Not in the slightest, and I don't care for any more of your explanations.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
they are both a line and from this line comes 2 things LIFE and the questioon

you need both.. its the rules

Infinity and questions bring life? How can questions be asked before life existed...and where can I find this rule book?

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
the question will always be here for without the question one can not forumualte or infact postulate the answer..

Hahaha...obviously...seriously...are you sure you've been doing physics since 1987 because it seems to me half the things you say are in fact stupid even though you might think they aren't.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
look at the stars... big big hint my friend

I look at them all the time thank you and you've also said that a number of times.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
its a function.. why are we here? look at my sentance again

I've read your sentences enough.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
why why why

this is the reason for infinity

*sighs*

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
why do we have kids? why does a tree grow the way it does ? why do we have life?

Because it's in our genetics to want kids, ensuring our species survives. Because it's in the trees genetics to grow the way it does, ensuring maximum light exposure. Because a concoction of minerals and sunlight some how made the first organism and we evolved from there...or a creator made us...

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
understand in that nano seconded of you making a choice.. in that very very small time you wish to say yes or no is the creation of the universe itself the very thing that put your body and mine here..

So making a choice creates our universe and it put us here in the first place...man...questions and answers sure can do a lot...

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
dont over look it pay attention to it.. alot.. people will abuse this .. they always do

Abuse what now?

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
the world is not based on answers .. its based on questions.. there was never a chicken or the egg

It was actually that singular celled organism that evolved into a chicken...

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
there was the question of HOW.. this is what most people dont get

Hahaha...I think most people ask why, who, what, where, how, when and a whole range of other things...

As you can see I'm getting a little ticked off at this stage and I kindly ask that unless you take the time to write a meaningful and understandable post that clearly relates to what we are talking about. DO NOT POST AGAIN.


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Since this is nothing new to you, can you explain what you mean a little more?
I for one do not really understand what you're getting at in your posts.
Could you make it a bit more coherent so i can understand where you're coming from?

Could you elaborate on the question being the answer?

Looking up to the stars makes me ponder, it does not provide me with answers

Symmetricavenger, I see tat you've made another thread on the topic your so keen to express your thoughts on, that's the second thread that has spawned from this one I think. Even though it's a lot better, and your OP made more sense because it seems you put in the effort and time rather than jumping from point to point and making statements with no explanations, I can still see that it lacks any detailed explanation of how infinity is linked to questions but that wasn't the problem, it was that we aren't just focusing on infinity here, we are using it to examine the possibility of infinitely large and small worlds where other intelligent life could theoretically exist and this is why I could see no relation to what we were talking about here. I may give some input into your new thread since you gave a lot of input to this thread.

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well the answert to the question would be yes... i mean the universe is infinite right?

so our would be infinitly small and infinataly large "depending from the obervation point".

and the reason i used a question as a metaphore / infinity that they are both not answers!

1 or 2 "the or part is infact infinity" it gives rise to both answers 1 and 2

Its like fractals watch nassim.. we kinda have the same idea but i use the function of a question to link both why we have infinity and why the qeustion is so important.

Think of a universe were we knew all the answers.. would that be a logical system in a "infinite" universe? or would that universe infact be finite? because we knew all the answers?

the universe by its very nature being infinite reqiures life "me and you and cats dogs trees" to ask! that is our paradox we question a question! Ping infiity ;D

Now what does that have to do with life on other planets? well to me its a no brainer..

if we are here talking about "in a infinite universe" the chances of them being out there is good!

we may find life on little rocks in space oh wait we are a little rock in space ; D

some suns are bigger than our entire soloar system.. i always liked the idea of a megga jupiter sized earth.

never know! may still happen

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
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Think of a universe were we knew all the answers.. would that be a logical system in a "infinite" universe? or would that universe infact be finite? because we knew all the answers?

the universe by its very nature being infinite reqiures life "me and you and cats dogs trees" to ask! that is our paradox we question a question! Ping infiity ;D

I think you may like this thread as it examines how knowledge might have an effect on space/time...I'm not really sure...it's all pretty complicated and I don't suggest posting on the thread...I'm certainly not going to until I examine what's being said very closely. Time: how past and future interact

The growth of knowledge doesn't run parallel with, but rather perpendicular to the storytime, or what we know of as 'past' and 'future'. New knowledge is constantly being added to the storytime, thereby increasing the richness and complexity of the entire timeline. And this happens in large part due to our creative minds. Every time a new idea is created anywhere in time, it effects the whole timeline. And since we have the potential for creativity, that effectively makes us co-creators of reality.

The universe is like a constantly updated holo-novel, and we're doing the updating.

EDIT: I'm going to be gone for a few hours so I will talk later.

[edit on 15/4/09 by CHA0S]

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ah hey ill check it out

speak soon

and i have to type this in order to get past the funny word thing!