Congress to Revive Hate Crime Bill to Censor Christians

Originally posted by Aermacchi


I think anyone that does that would probably have advised both of us we are arguing with a kids who thinks ATS is some video game where the one wth the most talking points, stars and high fives from the peanut gallery of sock puppets wins. I know the type scorand and jf deltablob etc. They like using lots of these I see. "

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kinda redundant like saying, : I'm laughing at you ,I'm laughing at I'm laughing at you ,you ,I'm laughing at you ,I'm laughing at you ,I'm laughing at you ,. Then I guess it is supposed to make us really really angry Grrrrrr lol .

Me,, I think it's a pitiful silly thing to do but what ever floats their boats or,,

lets them think they "gotcha!" Grrrrr

Good Posts Tom,.



[edit on 13-4-2009 by Aermacchi]

What the hell is all this. You didn't even relate to the topic at hand you are going to sit there and dog somebody, because they have different views then yourself, and then your going to act like nothings wrong. As you so eloquently put it mon ami "I think anyone that does that would probably have advised both of us we are arguing with a kids who thinks ATS is some video game where the one wth the most talking points, stars and high fives from the peanut gallery of sock puppets wins."

Then you wouldnt be here in the first place. You come in here talking complete and total nonsence, just to get on the bad side of somebody. Then you want to turn around and act like you are totally justified.

-gestures at Aermacci- Everyone.... This... is a bigot.... A hypocrate, and a lowdown heathen.... They say "thou shall not suffer a witch to live."
because we "Spit lies and spin falses". Though I can look aermacci down and know he isn't pagan. He acts, just like that. How us witches and gays are misconstrued, as Devious, full of Malice and spite. Stuck up and snobby. Closed-minded. I was told of ATS by my mentor. No i don't think this is a game. I could care less about the stars and the points. the fancy ass ranking that I may have. What I care about is finding my own personal truth and thats all you should be focused on as well. Not making other peoples lives harder just because you're cruel and sadistic. A low down dirty person.

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[edit on 13/4/2009 by SemperParatusRJCC]

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by Aermacchi

Originally posted by jfj123


You missed the entire point of my argument. I'm stunned

No, I do not suggest that being gay is not genetic.

I stated that those who believe being gay is a choice, must apply it to themselves. If, as you probably believe, being gay is a choice and nothing more, then everyone must be both gay and straight including you. This means YOU want to sleep with other men but don't because you believe that choice is wrong.

So you admit then that you know it is genetic.

Prove it!

It's like talking to a brick wall with a disability.


[edit on 13-4-2009 by jfj123]

It is isn't it.

I was going to point out some reality of how Christians behaved in the timeframes aforementioned.

But then what's the point, if they believe the planets geological record and research which has been repeated many times, showing it's billions of years old not a few thousand, is a huge lie perpetrated by scientists etc.

What's the point, they are so deluded and brainwashed nothing will penetrate their retarded understandings of history.

Brick walls with mental disabilities, indeed!!!

No matter how much archaeological records reveal something very different happened back then, so obviously perpetrated by the Christians, the wholesale slaughter of pagans and destruction of so much ancient knowledge we are only just starting to catch up on the curve.

Wouldn't make a shred of difference because these deluded fanatics will only believe what is written in books of metaphor that they interperet for their own warped agendas, not the realities, with truth obfuscated by the church heirachies with too much influence they are able to influence cover ups all too easily with the excuse "it will destroy the church and the establishment" which is self serving protectionism to hide the truth, happens year in year out worldwide.

[Hopefully, with a socialist New World Order, the church will be kicked into touch and the masses enlightened as to many realities not yet realised by the many (Edit: To a degree.), the truths are so different to the projected facades people are given to believe at present.]


I am a pagan, i'm descended from ancient Celts and even have an ancient megalith stone circle associated with my linneage, at Dooncarton, Co Mayo, Eire, my ancestory has alway been West Eire.

But i don't blindly accept everything is as my ancestors perceived, i accept we evolve in knowledge and our perceptions are very different as we ascend the timeline to the present, thousands of years later and as a Neopagan i adjust the concepts in our beliefs accordingly, i accept my ancestors were primative and we today have greater understandings than those before us.

We evolve, us pagans and to point out the obvious, We Don't Sacrifice Anybody Anymore, Haven't Done So For A Long Time Now, It Isn't Necessary Because We Understand Metaphysics And Temporal Mechanics!


Whereas some Christians seem intent on throwing everybody back into the stone age again, either that or inviting mass annihilation via the Rapture, wanting to ruddy well cause it, repeating the same BS they did a couple of thousand years back, give or take a few hundred.

[People are sacrificed in the name of Christ by Christian sects in the present though, in case they interfere with prophecy and such, all by the delusion of Devine Right,, even Mafia hits are carried out in the name of your one god and get blessed by the pope, etc etc.]

Dangerous people man, dangerous people!

They wish to remain devolved, perhaps they should do so privately on a remote island somewhere!

Most people wish to advance and prevail to the future!

Paxus.




[edit on 13-4-2009 by DeltaPan]

I think it's wonderful religion should be censored but a hate crime to bash Islam? I think a lot of us on this site (and many logical individuals) will be locked up in no time...

Religion to me is nothing but a terrible disease but having your right to free speech removed is absolutely sickening.

Well I think Christians did bring this on themselves. if you ever catch their talk shows TV and Radio their always making off color remarks about whatever group their gunning after at the moment...

Our local news recently tried to start a dialog on gay marriage. The station was flooded with calls from Christians making threats against anyone who supported the bill...

I listened to their rants and I swear I was sure they had their white sheets cleaned and pressed had a few wooden crosses all ready to burn in peoples yards and most likely already picked out a nice sturdy lynching tree.

TO make matter all the worse rather than preach a little brother love and understanding their ministers were openly inciting these folks to take drastic action! No this was a long time in coming and their hate mongering brought it down on themselves

reply to post by jfj123


jif123,

Wow!! Are you sure about this...that this is your position??

Which made the children victims and not sinners.

You got off subject here. We were talking about a christian god who, according to you, condemns innocent newborns. Remember now?

You are openly telling people out here who know God's pattern and template that you are not only not Catholic but also not Christian.

THe expression/ phrase/doctrine from the Bible ..is that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God...all..not some innocent etc etc...not victims et al. This includes Christian...in case you did not know.

Not Christian and not Catholic means Pagan. Hence I use the history also of the Nations which surrounded Ancient Israel and for whom the Ancient Israelis were told to not do as the nations surrounding them did.
The pattern is so often to ridicule and speak badly of the Christian beliefs ..both from the Old Testament and the New Testament while avoiding what was going on in other nations ..as if it went on in Ancient Israel and among Christians. People attempting to go in this direction always are selective about history. Predictable.

Once again you misquote misdirect, and in this manner deceive to make your points..very provincial. THere is a larger and pertinent history out here. A history for which if more people knew ...would put Light on much of what we see around us ..including this hate speech legislation.

As I have stated before in a previous post..all they are attempting to do is make...the children of the bond woman ...heir with the children of the free woman.

One can tell this by the over concern about who and who is not condemned.

You are asking my position on condemnation...a process which is outside my power and jurisdiction.

Furthermore ..I told you that you hold the worlds position, the worlds thinking, and the worlds values...then you protest when I bring up the worlds history to round out your provincialness. Interesting reaction. Not smart and not intelligent.

And furthermore ..of what history I speak is also found in God's Word if you know where to look and read. Yet ironically you protest about it ...as if it is not iin existance..not consequential. It most certainly is consequential. We are indeed talking about God and God's Word here. Once again..I told you that you need practice.

In case you missed it...many of these pagan nations...the children of the daughters of Lot...were already killing and condemming thier own children in thier religious ceremonies. Hence the concept that the land was already defiled.

What is so starkly ironic is that in discussion boards like this many non believers want to totally ignore this history. They only tell of thier beliefs and prejudices. For those of us who know the history of this world and the religions of this world including the patterns of the Occult religions...positions like yours and others..dont make good nonsense.

Knowing this, I will always paint a bigger picture of the history such that those who can see hear and understand ...will begin to see the seeds of sucn decpetion...and including the purpose of this hate speech legislation.

THe essence of all pagan religions is advancing by degrees in the wisdom of this world ...to godhood..demigods in this world.

Feudal power behind the priesthoods..even in the pagan religions...the religions practiced by the Nations surrounding Ancient Israel...were always after this pattern. What is not known by most ..even by most Chrisitians ...is that this pattern of demigods still exists today. It never died out and is attempting to be revived ..brought back ...by wisdom, sophism, by gnostic practices. By intelligences...by rampant sexuality....by drugs..pharmakia. Pharmakia...is also the Greek word for Sorcery.

Those who read and understand certain patterns in history also know that many of the ancient pagan religions used drugs, sexuality, logic and reason in their justifications..just as many are doing today. Nothing changed here.

What you do not see is this pattern of the pagans ..encouraged in the Word. Hence the come out from amongst them and be ye seperate doctrine..both Olde and New Testaments.

And this is what the world considers hating...to seperate from and speak of the reasons for this. In the future ...what I post here and others who know the history of this world are wont to post..will become hate speech. Never to be known by most peoples. This is easily predictable.

Thanks to all for thier posts,
Orangetom