Unseen Footage- Riot police attack peaceful protesters at G20

reply to post by Blaine91555


Nope, cops are not all bad.
They are just "following orders". That gives them quite a bit of leeway, and deniability. As does the riot gear.
If you're looking for video's showing the other point of view, there were plenty on the cable news channels.
Any idea if the protesters attempted to get a permit?

these pussey cops should try that # here in n.ireland.. we would stick the boot into them 10 fold..its about time the people in mainland uk got back to there 1981 roit tactics instead of just gettin beaten into a police state...

Standards in the police force have dropped under New Labour, but that's to be expected. Turns out quite a lot of police officers actually have criminal records. Is it any wonder therefore that they are only too happy to beat up on peaceful protestors.

Over 1,000 convicts in UK police force.

A report has revealed that more than 1,000 people serving as British police officers have criminal records ranging from assault to burglary.

The data, obtained by the Liberal Democrats, showed 1,063 officers had criminal records, including 59 for assault, three for burglary and 93 for dishonesty, the Guardian daily reported Wednesday.

Since 2004, a further 210 officers have resigned or been dismissed from their jobs due to their convictions.

Chris Huhne, the Liberal Democrats home affairs spokesman, said the figures illustrated that police chiefs needed to 'get tough on bad apples' in their teams.

"I can't see how an officer convicted of dishonesty can perform duties effectively. Any prosecutor would be reluctant to call them as a witness for fear of being taken apart by the defense," he said.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) stated officers convicted of crimes would not automatically lose their jobs.

"Where an officer has committed misconduct, a range of disciplinary actions can be taken including a reprimand, fine and reduction in rank or dismissal. Each case is judged on its merits," Peter Fahy, the chief constable of Greater Manchester police, told the Sun newspaper.

According to the figures, the forces with the highest number of police with convictions are the Metropolitan police with 274 'bad apples', West Midlands with 121 and Strathclyde, 107. Merseyside has 82, while Manchester and Kent have 44. Grampian has 34 and South Wales 31.

The forces with the highest percentage of officers with criminal convictions are Merseyside and West Midlands, followed by the Metropolitan and South Wales police.

www.presstv.ir...

The way the police treated those peaceful protestors was disgusting, but violence is not the answer, as that will just make the situation even worse. Just like the rest of us, the police are not above the law. If you think they have stepped out of line, then simply report them. It's as easy as that. If found guilty they will be reprimanded & punished accordingly. The law still works both ways and never forget that.


[edit on 5-4-2009 by kindred]

reply to post by kindred


It's not 'pussy cops ' that are the problem but the law-disragarding protesters.

Leaflets are sent out advertising a 'copper bash' whilst an half arsed justification for civil disobedience action agenda is cobbled together by those riotous scum to validate their behaviour, and all the while, the rights of the average citizen are eroded under anti-terrorism laws thanks to these cowardly Trustafarian-Bank-of-Middle-Class-Parent-Attention-Deficit-Twat-I-dont-have-a- clue-what-to-propose-as-a-sustainable-technological-financial-or-horticultural-alternative can suggest to help alleviate the current system

The sheeple are getting angrier but all the can do is bleat louder

[edit on 5-4-2009 by citizen smith]

The strategy the cops are using is brilliant to say the least and very old if you notice the cops are using Phalanx formation, which works well against a larger force. However had that crowed ever became violent they could have easily broken the lines.

I imagine the idea was to force the people together to tire them out, However if the Protesters had been organized the outcome would have been Different. I have a bad feeling about the next G20, for one you know their will be guns present on both sides so its very likely allot of innocent people could get hurt. I would suggest anyone planning on going acquire a bullet proof vest! I am not saying that all protesters will be armed but i will bet their will be meat heads present with weapons and you know the police will be armed it will only take one meat head to start a riot.

Originally posted by John Matrix
I'll add spray paint to your grocey list. In an emergency, work in groups. One group goes after one turd. Spay his visor so he can't see. If he lifts his visor, mase his ugly "death starr" face. Take his weapons and give him a good # kicking so he won't come back to riot control ever again.

So, by your logic, If I ethically disgree with what you do for a living to put food on the table, I'm just as entitled to walk into your workplace, spray you in the face, kick you in the bollocks, and punch you til you collapse in a heap on the floor and make sure you wont be able to return to work for a few months, that would be ok with you , eh?

[edit on 5-4-2009 by citizen smith]

After reading the title, I expected to see violence. All I saw was pushing and shoving.

Were the police trying to clear the street for those vehicles which drove through at the end of the video? Would the protesters have allowed them free passage otherwise?

I think I'm going to send this video to a local news station.
I haven't seen this on the news, and I think it should be shown.

Originally posted by citizen smith

Originally posted by John Matrix
I'll add spray paint to your grocey list. In an emergency, work in groups. One group goes after one turd. Spay his visor so he can't see. If he lifts his visor, mase his ugly "death starr" face. Take his weapons and give him a good # kicking so he won't come back to riot control ever again.

So, by your logic, If I ethically disgree with what you do for a living to put food on the table, I'm just as entitled to walk into your workplace, spray you in the face, kick you in the bollocks, and punch you til you collapse in a heap on the floor and make sure you wont be able to return to work for a few months, that would be ok with you , eh?

[edit on 5-4-2009 by citizen smith]

no, but if someone comes at me with a weapon, on a peaceful protest, I will protect myself any way i can. I don;t care if he's got a uniform on, if the self preservation thing I'm more interested in.

Originally posted by spacedoubt
I have a question about the police's badges, and ID's. Are they openly displayed on their riot gear? If a cop whacked you, would there be any way to identify them later?

I understand that there was a lawyer/lawyers present in the climate camp cordon that told protesters to record the badge numbers of the officers that were being heavy handed. Upon which they covered their badges. How true this is I don't know.

[edit on 6-4-2009 by RE2505]

Originally posted by News And History
Unseen Footage

They always make claims like this, but I saw essentially the same thing on BBC, the most mainstream of new channels in England. They showed the boxing in tactics being used, they showed the police kicking some hippies dog, they showed people getting beaten while sitting down and not causing trouble, they showed people getting charged by a group of riot police and hit with batons when they weren't aggravating the cops.

I wish people like Prison Planet and others who claim this stuff is 'unseen' would stop lying, I saw bleeding people giving interviews on BBC claiming they were beaten unfairly. None of this is new to me at all.

Where the mainstream failed in my opinion, was not getting enough interviews with protesters about WHY they were protesting. That was a big part of the story, and they only really brushed on that part preferring to concentrate on pictures of people bleeding and black uniforms beating people. That's important, but not the whole story.

reply to post by RubberBaron


When the OP referred to unseen footage I expect he meant that the footage was filmed by him and therefore unseen by you and I. With regards to the BBC footage, yes they did show what we are describing. I was watching BBC news channel and they seemed to focus on any signs of trouble. Even when the PM's question time was scheduled they split screened in case they missed something. When I arrived I met an ITV film crew at the front line (you can see the guy in my video) He didn't try and speak to any of the protesters and seemed to be more interested in getting someone being beaten on film. He did tell me to move my f-ing bike once though.


[edit on 6-4-2009 by RE2505]

Originally posted by RubberBaron
Where the mainstream failed in my opinion, was not getting enough interviews with protesters about WHY they were protesting

I've asked practically the same question, perhaps someone here could provide an answer please?

What was the 'cause' being protested?

reply to post by citizen smith


I'm sorry but the protestors in the video that the OP posted, didn't break any laws, it was the police who were out of order and therefore over stepped the line as to what's acceptable and what isn't. Plus the protestors have every right to demonstrate considering we are being screwed by those parasites in power.

Originally posted by RubberBaron
Where the mainstream failed in my opinion, was not getting enough interviews with protesters about WHY they were protesting

I've asked practically the same question, perhaps someone here could provide an answer please?

You should know better than to rely on the mainstream press for the truth.

Here you go Protestors interviewed.



www.wsws.org...
tv.oneworld.net...
www.guardian.co.uk...


[edit on 6-4-2009 by kindred]

Originally posted by kindred

I'm sorry but the protestors in the video that the OP posted, didn't break any laws, it was the police who were out of order and therefore over stepped the line as to what's acceptable and what isn't.

After watching the OP's clip again, at around 1:00, the organisers can be very clearly heard issuing orders to advance on the police line...and quite clearly an offensive move that was met with a predictable response

The protesters made the first move with their advancing tactic, got a battering, and then have the gall to whine about heavy-handed and violent tactics, when they were attempting to achieve the same!

edit to add:

The Guardian, Saturday 28th march, G20 protest: Thousands march for 'jobs, justice and climate'

They hoped for ten thousand but in the end more than three times that number turned out on London's streets today for the biggest mass demonstration since the beginning of the economic crisis.

The Put People First march was organised by a "rainbow alliance" of 150 trade unions, church groups and charities including ActionAid, Save the Children and Friends of the Earth. The theme was "jobs, justice and climate" and the message was aimed at the world leaders who will be gathering for the G20 summit here next week...

Notice how the previous Saturday's far larger protest passed peacefully, no implied threats of violence, apart from by the anarchist contingent who attempted to join, but were kept segregated from the main body

Compare that to the following Wednesday's shameful display of peaceful protest...




[edit on 6-4-2009 by citizen smith]

I was on saturdays peaceful march. And peaceful it was. I also have, on film, the hard line anarchists marching by, relativly quietly (a little chanting of "anarchy anarchy anarchy" but that's it) with a police escort kind of thing. Now, there was a good few hundred hardcore in this group, but the police still didn't use kettling tactics, they let them march. had they had done this on wednesday, I'm pretty sure that the outcome would have been VERY different. Like i';ve said before, and like I'll say again, the only difference between saturday, and wednesday, was police tactics. They KNOW how to let a protest go the peaceful happy route, and they know how to make one turn ugly. The police, are 100% or prehaps 99% at fault for the shinanigens last week.

New Age Propaganda at its finest. Small group of police are shown "conspiring to attack some protesters for no reason but to halt the demonstration." Cue to PM talking about doing "whatever is necessary" (completely out of context - he was actually referring to finding a solution to the global financial crisis) to stop protesters.

Yes I'm sure the police received orders to "attack the peaceful ones" because they would be able to better handle MORE out of control protesters. It seems as if the protesters were informed that they were posing a hazard and ignored multiple warnings to move back for the safety of all people in the area. Why would the Police want to change from a climate that they CAN control into one that they CANNOT control? It would be taking a huge risk to attack innocent protesters unprovoked.

In all honesty after watching the video, I still feel I can make a valid prediction on what REALLY happened. The majority of protesters did nothing wrong and protested peacefully. A minority in the crowd did not listen to instructions, began hurling profanity and insults at the officers, attempted to push forward after clear instructions to move back and ruined it for every protester there. The police then reacted by asking everyone to move back to lessen the potential danger to their lives.

You simply cannot allow such a large number of people to be unconstrained and allowed to dictate orders. The officers were FAR outnumbered and could easily have been trampled to death along with many other protesters.

[edit on 6/4/2009 by Dark Ghost]

And lookie what we have here. "Anarchists" letting an ambulance go past, and the nazi police stop them from going their quickest route. Now, I've no idea if this has anything to do with Ian Tomlinson (RIP) but either way, you can see that it is, again, the nazi scum police, who stop what could be a potentially life altering decision for who ever is in the back of the ambulance.

reply to post by Acidtastic


I recall someone saying that the police didn't use dogs. Well here is another clip from the same street that the ambulance was allowed to enter. Caution there is some bad language in this clip.

Originally posted by citizen smith
reply to post by kindred

 

Leaflets are sent out advertising a 'copper bash' whilst an half arsed justification for civil disobedience action agenda is cobbled together by those riotous scum to validate their behaviour, and all the while, the rights of the average citizen are eroded under anti-terrorism laws thanks to these cowardly Trustafarian-Bank-of-Middle-Class-Parent-Attention-Deficit-Twat-I-dont-have-a- clue-what-to-propose-as-a-sustainable-technological-financial-or-horticultural-alternative can suggest to help alleviate the current system
[edit on 5-4-2009 by citizen smith]

Have you any evidence of these leaflets please?

Also i was there and i'm a brave-working-class-single-parent-attention-fine-i-have-some-form-of-idea-but-shallow-ignorant-people-on-the-internet-wind-me-up-and-make-me-wanna-pun ch-them-in-the-mouth-because-they-can't-see-their-arses-from-their-elbows-and-like-to-bunch-everyone-into-the-same-groups-so-then-even-when-someone-d oes-suggest-a-viable-alternative-the-idiots-wont-listen-cos-everyone-gets-bunched-into-the-same-pigeon-hole.