Plastic coffin liners being delivered by the truckloads

Originally posted by biomehanika
reply to post by Pauligirl

 

If you are right, then if I open a coffin making business I should make a lot of profit despite the economic crisis?

Sure.

People will be dying to get in.

Sorry.

Not really.

reply to post by budro


No, the policy of the military is to bring all dead home ("No Man Left Behind" is what they call it) unless the deaths are related to contamination or contagious epidemic disease. Battlefield burials would interfere with that.

reply to post by Zaphod58

WWII Veterans- The average age of the surviving WWII veterans is 85+. As of 2005 it was estimated that there were only 100 WWII veterans left in the US.

Both of my grandfathers were in WW2 and they both are still alive. I seriously doubt that they are 2 of the 100 remaining WW2 veterans.

reply to post by xynephadyn


I was corrected later, and I corrected myself in a later post. The numbers that I used were for Pearl Harbor survivors, not overall WWII survivors. That means that they need MORE graves available for WWII survivors. Especially at the rate that they are dying.

OK... I can see this being a "preparation for veteran funerals"... but, why send them all to one location. These in this article are just going to alabama. I know the south had alot of volunteers, but this does not make sense.

Veterans come from all over the nation. Why the need to send this many to only certain locations. This is what is suspect to me, and why the whole veteran argument does not hold much water.

If these were being sent to "Arlington", it would make more sense.

I have never seen a military funeral putting more than one body in a coffin. These are big enough for four.

Zaphod, I applaud your diligence with "prepping for veterans", but at some point we have to look at the bigger picture.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by TwiTcHomatic]

this maybe related:colorado,executive order,in 2000 asserting its authority to bury victims in mass graves and or,cremate bodies under emergency situations.............. jim erikson,the rocky mountain post: what do all of you think?

I am just wondering if they will hit us with the avian flu that has been threatening for so long , or some other biological, these coffins seem minimalist, easy to cremate? just a thought that flashed for me.

Anyone who has ever served in active duty and has had an honorable discharge is eligible to be interred in a veteran's cemetery (space available). Spouses and minor children are also eligible. Combat duty is not required.

This kicks the numbers up a notch, don't it?

Originally posted by Grayelf2009


Well I would like to see someone debunk this one, with all the added activity at other locations it sure seems that the goverment has a plan to thin us out. The anger builds in me every day. We really need to be watching our backs and getting the word out. This is not normal for any graveyard. Thank god we have people inside getting the info out there.

www.infowars.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Ok, back to the original subject.
Already done.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
They are not being delivered by the truckload to anywhere. The company that makes them stores them here. They are pre-sold for folks that have made their burial plans in advance. I emailed the company and asked.

But, at least now infowars is calling them liners instead of coffins.

Originally posted by Phage
Anyone who has ever served in active duty and has had an honorable discharge is eligible to be interred in a veteran's cemetery (space available). Spouses and minor children are also eligible. Combat duty is not required.

This kicks the numbers up a notch, don't it?

Then why, after all the press that these "coffins" have been getting lately have they just not came out and said that these are for veterans and their "eligible family members"

Would be any easy way to squash rumors and speculation.

reply to post by TwiTcHomatic

Some cemeteries no longer practice eternal internment. After period of years the contract expires and the body is dug up, cremated and the grave is reused. Stacking corpses is not that farfetched since it allows for closer placement of burial markers.

For whoever mentioned Arlington; only combat veterans can be buried there and it is a pain to do so. State vet parks are not much better and from what a lot of vets have told me it is common for those who served in active combat units to be buried near each other in a cemetery that has a marker honoring a battle they were in or a ship they served on. Maybe that is why a lot of these tubs are going to a few places.

reply to post by TwiTcHomatic


The ones you see stored are not for military use. Polyguard (a different company) sells vaults to the VA for use in VA Cemeteries. The VA has been buying them since 2000 under the name of thermoplastic graveliners.
You can see this on the fedspending webite here:
www.fedspending.org...

reply to post by biomehanika


That's always a profitable business to get into, I think. Larger population, the more people that will eventually die. I had an aquaintance in college. He received his BS in Accounting and immediatey after graduation began a business constructing concrete vaults. He's doing quite well. I recall him saying he had to hire an accountant to keep track of his books.

Originally posted by notsomadhatter
This is incredulous!!!!

Time for us to start connecting some dots and figure this out....

How did the world become so ugly and dark??????

You see, this is the danger of immersing yourself in conspiracy talk. Most likely, once the "dots," are connected it won't reveal a sinister picture (the idea that these are going to be used for crypts to hold dying veterans makes perfect sense) and yet we have panic.

This line especially disturbs me:

How did the world become so ugly and dark??????

When you start seeing the world through this prism then hopelessness is not far behind and that leads to desperation. We have many problems and our economic future is uncertain but some of you have jumped from unsubstantiated conclusion to unsubstantiated conclusion and arrived at place where doom lurks around every corner.

It's smart to be prepared but it's equally important to maintain a sense of perspective. Or else some of what you fear most will become a self fulfilling prophecy.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by Night Watchman]

reply to post by Zaphod58
[WWII Veterans- The average age of the surviving WWII veterans is 85+. As of 2005 it was estimated that there were only 100 WWII veterans left in the US]

That number seems suspiciously low.

Both my grandfathers (in Canada) are WW2 vets and both of them are still alive.



[edit on 2-4-2009 by star in a jar]

The reason for a coffin instead of just dumping bodies in a big hole ???

Probably for contamination purposes. Obviously someone is planning for massive dead CONTAMINATED bodies ... Yeah ! Expect a plague of some sort ...

reply to post by biomehanika


I agree the curtain has lifted and the show is starting.. today we have witnessed the rise of the NWO, tomorrow the supposed rise of a one world army at the NATO military summit, a NK satellite(Nuke?) over japan which is being threatened to be shot down, tensions in Pakistan, Taliban leaders plotting an amazing attack on Washington (Nukes? Bio? Chem?), and graves being expanded in the good ol' US of A

only 4 months into 2009 and all this has happened

so yeah it's more like..

Tensions in Pakistan+mass graves being built+rise of NWO+plot of great terror attack on Washington DC +NK threats+ looming threat of WW3+ full economic collapse= well ATS can guess what is coming

reply to post by biomehanika


Oh! thanks for that! I was wondering what is up with the stock market!
Haha get it? what is up with the...oh well I tried! Good points!

As usual, thank you for bringing a little sanity to these threads, same to you Zaphod. You guys are correct these are a cheap version of a burial vault. Inexpensive and extremely tough, these vaults/liners surround the casket working on a diving bell principle in case the water table is relatively high. They simply protect the casket, and keep the ground from collapsing the casket over time. Easier lawn maintenance for cemetery workers. Also, I've never heard of a lawn crypt that is four caskets deep. I called our National Cemetery and they hadn't either. I'll have to check that one out.
Usually if a veteran or veteran's spouse passes away the cemetery reserves a companion crypt or plot for the both of them. Also as Phage indicated Minor children if they should happen to pass away and Disabled dependents are also eligable for burial under the VA.
As far as the location of this latest cemetery expansion in AZ. Think of all the elderly retirees down there. No wonder they needed to expand.


reply to post by Phage




[edit on 2-4-2009 by The Undertaker]

Originally posted by Zaphod58

There are almost no WWI vets left, and only a couple hundred WWII vets at most.

If by a few hundred you mean a few million then you're nailing that statistic (3.9 million in 2004).

www.ssa.gov...

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