Live: G20 Summit Build-up - BBC News

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
reply to post by mr-lizard

 

And what exactly were they doing? I was there all day and all I saw was a bunch of wasters drinking, smoking weed, and sitting on the floor along Bishopgate...

Wasn't any kind of direct action I'm familiar with... Chalking a few slogans on the floor doesn't constitute 'doing something' in that particular context in my book.

Seriously - all those guys did is hijack a cause that has more relevance to the people who didn't bother to turn up (which in honesty I'm equally as annoyed about as you are).

Looks like my report was accurate after all...

The Borg has won.
You have been assimilated.

All these lefty toerags need a good kicking off the bobbies, but what would be far more just and fair is to pass everyone through a checkpoint enroute to the protests, Anyone in recipt of benefits and any students should be taken aside. The students should be thrown out of their unis and those on benefits should have them stopped, All should have a lifetime bar from holding jobs in the public sector. All should be banned from recieving state pensions, all student loans should be repaid immediately. After all if they object to capitalism they cant expect to live on a capitalist benefit and education system.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by Northern Raider]

Once a month Spartans will come out in the night, masked, and kill all those peasants who show signs of rebellious nature.

reply to post by Northern Raider


Well, a bit harsh, but you can't call for the revolutionary overthrow of your cake AND eat it can you?

It will be interesting to see what happens to all those who had to give their names, addresses, and have a mugshot taken over the next few weeks



[edit on 2-4-2009 by citizen smith]

Originally posted by Northern Raider
All these lefty toerags need a good kicking off the bobbies, but what would be far more just and fair is to pass everyone through a checkpoint enroute to the protests, Anyone in recipt of benefits and any students should be taken aside. The students should be thrown out of their unis and those on benefits should have them stopped, All should have a lifetime bar from holding jobs in the public sector. All should be banned from recieving state pensions, all student loans should be repaid immediately. After all if they object to capitalism they cant expect to live on a capitalist benefit and education system.

[edit on 2-4-2009 by Northern Raider]

Sounds a good option You'd clear probably the majority of the people that were there i reckon.

Not sure how many people will agree here though.

I'm going to bow out of this thread now, it seems to be going back and forth and is achieving about as much as the protests have.

Maybe the last straw for me is reading things like this....

there was a breif scuffle between us protestors to let the ambulance through! we parted to let the ambulance through but we didnt let the 2 police vans escorting it through they got hit with missiles and all sorts

I can read a thread of posts slagging off the police, i'm not saying i agree with it, but i can handle it.

Yet when i read comments like this, talking about what amounts to one of the most stupid and dangerous acts people carry out these days, i'm afraid i have no sympathy for those who say they were doing nothing wrong.

The same protesters that say the police hindered the ambulance getting through, did the very same thing by obstructing the ambulance escort. Ambulances get escorted for a reason, especialy in trouble spots.

To think it is funny to stop the police escorts, verges on totaly idiocy!

That police escort was trying to get an ambulance to a casualty. Most probably a protester. So all you did was jepordise that help.

I have yet to hear what the ambulance was for, if it was a minor thing or if it was for the guy who died last night. If it was for the latter, then i hope that along with any police that get dragged in for this, so do all the protesters that were obstructing and pelting the police escorts with missiles.

I'm going to leave it there, i would dearly love to carry on however i love my ATS account and the remainder of this post would have earnt me an instant ban!

Take care all.

CX.

[edit on 2/4/09 by CX]

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'Can't do with people slagging off the police'?

Why exactly? The police operation was appalling on Wednesday and before all this anti terror legislation crap was pushed through many of the police actions would have been illegal and for good reason...

Police were confiscating mobile phones.

Demanding that photographers delete images from their cameras or have them confiscated.

Restricting the freedom of movement of EVERYONE who happened to be in a certain area regardless of whether they were involved in any kind of violence (by misapplying the public order act to the situation)

Restricting the movement of mass groups of individuals hours after and before any trouble occurred.

Letting 'bankers' - or anyone who claimed to be working in an area through the cordon - based entirely on what - they way the looked? I hadn't committed any crimes either but I wasn't allowed through - why because I'm young and wasn't wearing a suit?

Police baton charged forward to disperse a crowd that as yet hadn't acted violently (other than a few taunts to the police which they really ought to be above in these situations). This resulted in multiple casualties. I witnessed this and was hot with a baton on my arm - despite not even wanting to be in the area.

Police responded with aggression to any attempt to speak to them - I asked directions and was told to 'F**k off' - had I said this to the officer I would no doubt have been arrested under the public order act.

Many of the 'shock troop' type riot police - not the ones in the green jackets, the one's in full US style paramilitary armour - had their numbers on their epaulettes covered with tape. This is surly illegal (clarification?)



Overall I'd say the police took a very bad attitude to the event. Aren't they meant to be politically impartial and only serve in these situations to prevent/respond to violence?

In this situation they were clearly allied with the government stand point/banking institutions as an organisation and were there to take 'a hard line' against protesters in general.

The police should not be a political tool. In this case this is how they were used.

Originally posted by DangerDeath
The Borg has won.
You have been assimilated.

Too right, we are all there now, and its a waste of time even protesting anymore. They know exactly how to run people in these situations.

The police get a good day out and get to kill someone, not a bad days work, for the serial killers.

Originally posted by DangerDeath
The Borg has won.
You have been assimilated.

I read that as the opposite, with 'The Borg' being the sheeple who took the easy finance, the credit cards, the 100%+ mortgages, the consumer lifestyle etal, all because they believed in a sense of entitlement to it all

'The Borg' have assimilated everyone else, regardless of others financial responsibility, into this mess, as if they hadn't been so credit-greedy, there wouldn't be the toxic debt that ended up being traded as illusionary assets, thereby leading everyone else to the edge of a financial precipice


[edit on 3-4-2009 by citizen smith]

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
reply to post by CX

 

'Can't do with people slagging off the police'?

Just thought i'd pop back to say, read my post......i said "I CAN handle a thread slagging off the police"........if you'd have read it properly you'd have saved yourself a load of typing.

CX.

Considering what actually happened at the G20 summit, I would say that I agree. The time for protesting has passed.

Now it is time to hope for the best.

We are now under the control of a world-wide institution. It won't do any good protesting these things, it is already done. Now it is time for peace. Don't fight. Don't give them a reason to stomp your throat, because they will.

When you allow someone from an entirely different culture to run your affairs, don't expect them to understand your culture-specific objections. As Gordon Brown has said "We will do whatever is necessary."

They will, including but not limited to, slaughtering you and everyone you know.

We know what the next step for the NWO is. Depopulation.

Don't give them a reason to do it.

The bible spoke of all this stuff. I think all the "mayhem" that people are expecting is a self-fullfilling prophecy that WILL in fact happen when people follow their natural urge to fight AGAINST this thing.
I think the smart man will let it run its course and refuse to give a reason for the jackboots to come down.