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Originally posted by Acidtastic
It looks like the protester did actually collapse, through no direct fault of the nazi police. BUT would he still be alive if they hadn't been penned in like they were, with no accsess to food or water. Would he have survived if they weren't penned in without access to fast medical help. The police may not have killed him with their fists, but his blood is still on their hands.


There will be a demo at Bank today at 1pm, for a show of solidarity for him.


And news in from Climate Camp. Police still kicking lumps out of women and children. Just heard from a guy whos little sister has just been kicked in the face by the police. Mass Stop and Searches going on, even for the workers going to work.

is this going on at bank im just about to travel the city now to get there! i didnt see what happened to the guy just him on the floor he didnt look like he had been hit or anything, no blood stains or? the only thing that baffles me is why he pissed himself? is that not a sign of shock?

it was scary for a minute when the police charged us but i must stress that the police created the crowd by penning us in! which in turn blocked the ambulance getting there

there was a breif scuffle between us protestors to let the ambulance through! we parted to let the ambulance through but we didnt let the 2 police vans escorting it through they got hit with missiles and all sorts

im going back today to get more footage im just gutted my phone battery died in the day if i could of filmed half the stuff i saw last night! nobody would be debating whether the police where in the wrong!

in fact i have uploaded yesterdays videos to my facebook showing the atmposphere in the day it was like a street party, i have a video of a guy with a sign asking the police for hugs! i will figure out how to upload them here tomorow because i need to go now but my face book is mitchell mills if anybody wants to see them before that

there is evidence in the videos people there was thousands of protestors last night with camera's and i go to check youtube and there is nothing there? something is fishy with that

It's 18:00 local time (London). I am literally through the door having returned from work via bank.

Didn't see a great deal but i'll report in the next 30 minutes.

More hard solid proof of bully boy tactics from the nazi police.

This is from the climate camp (can't remember if I've posted this in here yet) This was a place of fluffyness. No trouble at all, and you'll notice that when the police move forward and start smashing people inthe face with shields, not one protester reacts in a violent way. They carry on in defience, holding up their arms chanting "this is not a riot"



if anyone is still on the side of the nazi polis after that, then there's no helping you. And you deserve the incoming police state.

[edit on 2/4/2009 by Acidtastic]

Originally posted by Reading
there was a breif scuffle between us protestors to let the ambulance through! we parted to let the ambulance through but we didnt let the 2 police vans escorting it through they got hit with missiles and all sorts

You didn't let the police vans escorting the ambulances through?

Can i just ask something before i jump to conclusions......who was the ambulance for? Not that it matters, but was it for the guy that died last night or was it for injured protesters?

CX.

Guardian in non biased report shocker!!

www.guardian.co.uk...

I was held at the climate camp until midnight last night. When I arrived at 6pm to celebrate the creative sight of a camp in London's grey financial streets, the police allowed me to walk straight into the camp with my bike. As the reports have said, the atmosphere was very warm and positive: schoolchildren and old-time protesters sharing a space full of colour and music.

Within an hour of arriving, the same police who had stepped back and let me through closed in around the camp and refused to let anyone in or out. I then watched the police push forward into the crowd with a brutality that was not only shocking but utterly
unnecessary. All the protesters put their hands in the air and sat down collectively on the road. Yet as the crowd lowered I saw a young man stagger back with his head split open, another boy with a broken nose, a girl next to me had been kicked between the legs.

People were badly hurt and the atmosphere spun into a frightened panic. A friend of mine from university who had come from Nottingham to join the camp just put his head in his hands and cried. This was the scene minutes after people had been allowed to wander into the camp without any warning of the planned police actions, or any chance to leave peacefully.

Originally posted by detachedindividual

Originally posted by Karlhungis
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Is it illegal to wear a scarf now? I wouldn't think so, but I wouldn't think it is illegal to photograph a cop either.

It sounds like the crowds are all now merging at the BofE. It should get interesting now.

[edit on 1-4-2009 by Karlhungis]

Indeed, apparently it's illegal to have an opposing political view in the UK now too.

1984 anyone?

The answer to 1984 is 1776 !

Not one line

Just got back... decided to go out and show my support for the protestors...

Was a very crazy night, the police were ruthless in their tactics, quite efficient at splitting the crowds up and indiscriminate in their head-bashing.

Saw a couple of young girls get dragged from their push bike and knocked to the floor, were they were then set upon by two police men. Saw another fellow with a rather serious head wound and the police refused to let him out of the 'pen' to get medical aid.

Got some videos and pictures on my phone, but unless i can find a cable, i have no way of uploading them to my computer. I'll get back to you soon.

John Hilary - Barred from reporting at the G 20!

www.guardian.co.uk...

This blog was supposed to come to you from the inside of today's G20 summit. I was accredited to go into the Excel centre in London and write on events as they materialised, both as a Comment is free contributor and as a member of the Put People First coalition of over 150 civil society groups which has come together in preparation for the summit.

When I arrived at the security clearance tent on the dockside this morning, however, I was informed that the government had blocked both my accreditations. At first the explanation was that I had originally been accredited in error due to a computer glitch.

This had a "dog ate my homework" ring to it, so I pointed out that we had confirmed previously with officialdom that I was on the Put People First list. After a bit of pressing and a couple more phone calls, the government official in question admitted that my accreditations had indeed both been withdrawn and that I would not be allowed in.

The news was not entirely unexpected. Last night, my counterpart at the World Development Movement, Benedict Southworth, was informed that his accreditation had been withdrawn at the last minute – on the direct orders of No 10.

Both War on Want and the World Development Movement are known for being at the more critical end of civil society when it comes to the government's policy on international affairs. Other representatives from the Put People First coalition were allowed into the summit venue. Should we be smelling a rat here?

Yes John, i smell a huge stinking rat!

This is just indiscriminate head bashing all round.

The police are more geed up than ever.
It's pathetic that protest now is being treated in this way.... they are treating people like criminals for voicing concern and getting together to try and change things.

people are not gonna stand for this....

Right, don’t expect any revelations. Don’t expect any gore or intrigue. I work around London as a driver. Sometimes I’m lucky enough to see things, most of the time I don’t. Here is what I saw today.

7:00am The Highway: A stretch of road from Tower Bridge towards Canary Wharf. One Police out-rider at each junction and two “foot” officers overseeing traffic moving into the Limehouse Link tunnel.

10:30 & 11:45am Commercial Road and Rampart Street: There is a squat located here. It is “known” to police. As I drive past on both occasion there is a sizeable police presence outside. Were there any squatters/protesters in the building? I could not say. All I know is they weren’t there at 6:15.

13:00-ish I finally made it into The City: In the process of taking one of my little short-cuts (Sun Street) around the back of Liverpool Street Station I discovered the road was completely shut off. Pedestrians were permitted, which was nice as I got to say hello to old mate from uni. Basically a load of protesters had managed to get into a building between Sun Street and Earl Street. There was a helicopter overhead and quite a large police presence.

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13:50: I decided it was easier to get to my next spot via Bank so had a drive down there. Didn’t see much, mainly due to driving the opposite way to The Exchange building. Did see some nice chalk grafitti on the side of The Bank of England though.

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This was the scene outside The Exchange.

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16:00 I finished work and had a wander back into The City. First place I went was Bishopsgate, more importantly the Climate Exchange building. Nothing. Clear streets. The only signs of protest were two Anarchy symbols scrawled on the building opposite.

Next stop Sun Street. Police presence was minimal. Tradesmen were boarding up entrances and a light cordon had sealed off Earl Street. I wasn’t able to ascertain from the police line (who were polite and jovial with me) if there was anyone still inside. There were a few stragglers outside, one was being interviewed by a young hack.

From there down to Bank. This interesting. All the approach roads to The Exchange building area were closed, and I do mean ALL of them. At this time (16:45?) people were permitted to enter the Underground at Bank if they could satisfy officers that they were City workers. I was not one, I also was carrying items that would have provoked too many questions so I did not try to gain access. This is why I know all approach roads were sealed off. The first officer I questioned confirmed my enquiry as to if the area had been designated under Section 60 (look it up). Another officer 5 minutes later said with a smile that the whole City (City of London) was under Section 60.

At 17:00 this was the closest I could get.

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(Note below the right red traffic light a rather large contingent of police)

Shortly thereafter in ordered form this large contingent filtered out to the roads leading to the exchange. To my left were around 40 or so people who looked as if they were there to protest. As the police fanned out I decided to head for the sanctuary of The Green Man on Poultry. While consuming my “swift one” I observed the police ushering away those wanting to stay. It was firm but by no means aggressive.

As I left the pub, about 10 minutes later I observed that the Exchange area was no open. This was a relief so I walked back toward the train station. As I passed the front of the Exchange I saw a small group of protesters sitting together. I would have to guess a total of about twenty, surrounded by officers not in riot gear.

These are blurred as taken “on the fly”, sorry.

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That was it, aside from some police horse dung on the pavement and some grafitti that appeared to be aerosoled on the Bank of England walls (not counting the chalk protests) I couldn’t see any obvious damage, until I walked past the RBS building (immediately behind it) that was sporting two large wooden boards instead of windows.

Sorry there’s no drama. I went as an observer and that’s what I did.


Nirgal.


[edit on 2-4-2009 by Nirgal]

World development movement also banned!!

www.wdm.org.uk...

Today I was going to bring you news and updates from the G20 conference taking place in London. As the leaders of the rich countries of the world meet, I was hoping to provide commentary and promote WDM's message of justice for the world's poor. WDM believes that any solution to the global financial crisis needs to put people first.

However Downing Street have other ideas. Yesterday WDM's accreditation was withdrawn at the last minute. The reason is unclear but a member of the accreditation team told us that the decision came after the Foreign and Commonwealth Office had received a note from 'Number 10' to decline my accreditation.

I am outraged that we have apparently been banned at last minute from attending the G20 summit. I hope it's not what it appears to be - an attempt to stage manage events and prevent voices of dissent and disagreement from being heard.

Benedict Southworth

Seriously, this is messed up. They're just going to keep all the people who actualyl do care about what's going on, so they can carry on with their little game unhindered.

This is exactly the reason people take to the streets. How else do you get your voice heard when you're not allowed to express it? (I presume there would have been a question asking oppertunity)

[edit on 2/4/2009 by Acidtastic]

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Asking the police for hugs?

I was there too on Wednesday and the majority of people were just hippies and trouble makers... Asking for hugs is symptomatic of what is wrong with the UK and just why we have allowed ourselves to be drawn into this mess.

I was really disappointed that there weren't more 'real people' there - even if just standing together to express their dissatisfaction at all this - the hard working Brits who've lost their jobs, had their lives really messed up by all this, who have received no help from the government despite the endless claims that action is being taken.

If those 'real people' who complain so much - me being one of them - actually bothered to get off their backsides and come to London - like me - maybe the authorities would have been really shaken by this and taken it as the significant event of dissent it should have been.

As it stands - a bunch of badly dressed, students and no-hoper - too lazy to get a job - anarchists - have just served to do what they always do - provide a few laughs for the police when they go down to the pub with their buddies, and embaressment for the country.

If anyone looking in from abroad saw these people and took them to be representative of the UK populous, they must think we are one hapless race of folks indeed.

If I saw someone asking for hugs I'd belt him across the face myself.

I am sick of peaceful protest's. You are not being heard by anyone outside of those that have the same view!

Police start bashing heads, then meh fair enough, if you cant combat that. then its time to go and F*** S*** up else where, all public property is free game. Or just cause alot of trouble.

I am no way an anarchist and my views may be a bit radical and some will disagree, but imo its the only way at this stage of where we are in the world. Where the police rule and the mainstream media follows those people in power party line.

Nobody is listening!

*RANT OFF*

[edit on 2-4-2009 by r3dman]

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Don't think it's about randomly smashing stuff up - see my last post above - enough random trouble makers and anarchists - it gets nowhere...

People need to get organised... properly... know what I'm saying? ;-)

Enough is enough people.

Originally posted by r3dman
I am sick of peaceful protest's. You are not being heard by anyone outside of those that have the same view!

Police start bashing heads, then meh fair enough, if you cant combat that. then its time to go and F*** S*** up else where, all public property is free game. Or just cause alot of trouble.

I am no way an anarchist and my views may be a bit radical and some will disagree, but imo its the only way at this stage of where we are in the world. Where the police rule and the mainstream media follows those people in power party line.

Nobody is listening!

*RANT OFF*

[edit on 2-4-2009 by r3dman]

Whilst I'd much rather see it peaceful, with the way the police have handled it, and have basicly set a precident for the summer of rage THEY "predicted". How nice for them. Violent protest will bring the NWO in quicker, and that's what they want, public dissorder. For now, they can handle it, but that's going to change. because more and more people are annoyed by their actions. People went to that protest with respect for the police, and left with none. Violent protests are going to become more frequent, with police tactics like that. Which means the protesters will have to get more organised and stop it some how. Hopefully by building baracades rather than fighting them. But that day IS coming. I can smell it in the air.

you wait till they do that to one ofthe larger marches. With all the old dears from the Christian groups. Wait till the papers are full of pictures of poor little nanna with a bleeding face and a riot "policeman" with a screwed up face landing another blow. That's when it'll proper kick off. You mark my words.

[edit on 2/4/2009 by Acidtastic]

Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
reply to post by Reading

 

As it stands - a bunch of badly dressed, students and no-hoper - too lazy to get a job - anarchists - have just served to do what they always do - provide a few laughs for the police when they go down to the pub with their buddies, and embaressment for the country.

You have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about? .

In regards to the 'badly dressed students' and 'no-hopers' , may i suggest you put down your copy of 'fascist-stereotypes for beginners' and open your eyes. At LEAST these people are doing soemthing......





[edit on 2-4-2009 by mr-lizard]

Originally posted by Acidtastic
How else do you get your voice heard when you're not allowed to express it?

By use of direct economic action...

Have an account/loan/mortgage with RBS or other?

Close/move it to a mutualised building society or credit union. And if the member of staff dealing with your query asks why, tell them politely that you will not do business with them due to their trading practices.

Sick of supermarket or other corporates?

Ditch Tesco/Sainsburys/ASDA-Walmat etc and use small local 'mom and pop' stores, or smaller ethical business providers

If you REALLY want to make your message clear, just take your business elsewhere, as in this time of recession and economic uncertainty, it will make the point even more salient.

The notes in your wallet carry more clout if used as collective consumer action than you realise!

[edit on 2-4-2009 by citizen smith]

Originally posted by r3dman
Police start bashing heads, then meh fair enough, if you cant combat that. then its time to go and F*** S*** up else where, all public property is free game. Or just cause alot of trouble.

And what, precisely will F ing S up achieve?

Nobody is listening!

Because you've not got anything to offer as a sensible strategy alternative apart from 'smash/destroy/burn etc'.

Read my post above this for an alternative that will have a better chance of getting the attention needed to make change


[edit on 2-4-2009 by citizen smith]

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And what exactly were they doing? I was there all day and all I saw was a bunch of wasters drinking, smoking weed, and sitting on the floor along Bishopgate...

Wasn't any kind of direct action I'm familiar with... Chalking a few slogans on the floor doesn't constitute 'doing something' in that particular context in my book.

Seriously - all those guys did is hijack a cause that has more relevance to the people who didn't bother to turn up (which in honesty I'm equally as annoyed about as you are).

Originally posted by citizen smith

Originally posted by Acidtastic
How else do you get your voice heard when you're not allowed to express it?

By use of direct economic action...

Have an account/loan/mortgage with RBS or other?

Close/move it to a mutualised building society or credit union. And if the member of staff dealing with your query asks why, tell them politely that you will not do business with them due to their trading practices.

Sick of supermarket or other corporates?

Ditch Tesco/Sainsburys/ASDA-Walmat etc and use small local 'mom and pop' stores, or smaller ethical business providers

If you REALLY want to make your message clear, just take your business elsewhere, as in this time of recession and economic uncertainty, it will make the point even more salient.

The notes in your wallet carry more clout if used as collective consumer action than you realise!

[edit on 2-4-2009 by citizen smith]

I think this is all very good in theory - and would have been a great idea if people had been more aware (not their fault in my opinion) maybe a year or six months ago.

But now I think we are at - or at least very close - to a crisis point. I think more drastic measures need to be taken.

I'm not suggesting violence... more the government should be doing more that is in the interests of the general populous rather than big business.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is that the problem now is really with the government not doing what the majority really want... So maybe action should be directed directly at them rather than the businesses which the government are conveniently still blaming...