Rockefeller: Internet is "Number One National Hazard"

The internet is already controlled.

People only know of one place to find video's .. youtube...

Are you so foolish to think that even comedy central can regulate what is posted on youtube but the gov can't?

People only know of one place to search for... w/e

Google

Again.. do I need to go there?

THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SHUTTING DOWN THE NET THEY ARE GOING TO MONOPOLIZE IT!

Isn't it obvious!!!!??? The monopoly has been created, it just needs nationalized. End Game.

btw.. the idea is not to tax or regulate porn on the net... the idea is



TO CONTROL THE FKING NEWS!

[edit on 23-3-2009 by Techsnow]

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You my friend, hit the nail on the head!

EDIT: To make post a 2-liner

[edit on 23-3-2009 by sdrawkcabII]

Ok Seriously. If the internet is that big of a threat, then why not move your business elsewhere? If the Dept of Homeland Security gets attacked 3 million times a day, Then why is the Department of Homeland Security not on its own "internet"?

Why leave it susceptible to us? Seriously. Im no IT guy, but even I can see the flaw in all of this. The Internet doesnt HAVE to be a threat Mr. Rockefeller. That is, of course if you decide to stop doing business over it.

Star and Flag dood, we must protect the internet guys at all costs.

I'm from New Zealand and we have had a SMALL victory over our Government wanting to implement a copyright guilt by acussation law which forces the termination of internet connections and websites without evidence, without a fair trial, and without punishment for any false accusations of copyright infringement.

SOURCE

A controversial internet copyright law will not be going ahead and will be replaced following a review by the Government, Prime Minister John Key confirmed today. Section 92a of the new Copyright Amendment Act has upset the internet community, which says it could force the closure of websites following any accusation of breach of copyright, even if it was not proven. The Government said last month it would delay implementation of Section 92a until March 27 to give the community time to come up with a workable code of practice. It said if agreement could not be reached it would suspend the section. One internet service provider (ISP) TelstraClear recently pulled out of the code of conduct that was being drafted and Cabinet decided today that it was time to go back to the drawing board. "Section 92a is not going to come into force as originally written. We have now asked the minister of commerce to start work on a replacement section," Mr Key said. "There is a need for legislation in this area, some progress was made between copyright holders and the ISPs but not enough to agree a code of conduct. "In our view there are a number of issues that made it difficult to complete that code of conduct without fixing the fundamental flaws in section 92a." Mr Key said there needed to be unanimous support amongst ISPs and Commerce Minister Simon Power would be engaging with some experts in the area to go back to the basics. Mr Key has said previously both sides of the debate had a point. The Government would not allow the internet to be the "wild west" where any copyright holders did not have entitlement to compensation or recognition of their work. However, its interactive nature led to different issues from the traditional media, Mr Key said.

PROTECT THE NET! IT'S OUR TOOL IN KICKING THE ILLUMINATI'S A$$!

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by mikerussellus
Could I have everyones IP addresses? Just so when the revolution comes about I can earn extra government chits for free cheese by turning everyone in

You shure can

My Ip address is 127.0.0.1

Hehe ..
..ex

Ah some humor finally!
LOL
Oh and mine is 192.168.1.1!

Originally posted by space.odyssey
the paranoia expressed in these posts is kind of frightening.... before everyone gets carried away, if the Rockefellers et all were as powerful as you believe them to be, then the INTERNET would never have been developed in the first place! AND it would have been restricted.. instead we have a global, open platform, mass communications system -- the first in human history.

the wealthy probably do control the earth, and democracy leaves them untouched. BUT what are you guys proposing? to read these posts, the only answer is ANARCHY! did anyone out there read Hobbes? Lord of the Flies? human nature is what it is, there will always be disputes, a ruler and the ruled. the question is -- is today so bad, that we overturn the entire system?? -- i think the elite need to wake up to the main concern of the people -- the LIES and the SECRECY and the COVERUPS about technology, ufos, who we are and why we're here -- because THEY do know a lot more than we know and it seems like momentum is building like never before for disclosure. maybe then, people can unite more, work together, and we can move into a better phase of human history.

that is EXACTLY what they want your attitude to be. No offense of any kind meant. But you have to understand the Elites think just that of themselves. That they're the Elite. Once upon a time a man named Jesus told his people to love one another and be humble. and to beware of men who claim to know better, and then judge them by their fruits. He revealed to another man named John (an event described as "The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John his apostle) that there would be one man to have domination over every language, nation and tribe and he would think so highly of himself, he would call himself God. They will give us "Change we can believe in". But then just like the change of Stalin or Hitler, will give us genocide. As soon as we start believing our current government works for us, is the day we become cattle. The day we realize we need another revolution, is the day we become Patriots & Brothers. Hopeful & Inspired. Not anarchists, or terrorists. Not complacent and afraid. If bees can huddle together and swarm an equal number of PEOPLE away from their hives, running for the hills. Then why cant we do the same?

I say we send these "Elites" some "CHANGE we can ALL believe in"

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Total sense is made... Remember what life was like before the internet? there was unquestioned loyalty to country. Now after internet, the truth is becoming clearer and less foggy.

So, in short, more control was achieved by government before internet, i bet they would love to go back to the time where it was pencil and paper, its easier to cover up their tracks (corruption) that way.

Wake up, there is a yen and yang to everything. The atom can power your home or flatten it, depends on how you use it. He is not against the net, just saying it has issues that are serious to our national security, that is your and my security. Nothing new or important here, find a real issue to worry about.

I don't know if this has been said yet, but as somebody who is an IT guy and System Administrator the internet is the biggest security risk out there. Spyware, Malware, viri, black hat hackers, and some gray hat hackers have a doorway into your network. When you think about it, information is highly prized and valuable. Even systems which are suppose to be secure may not be. Ever hear of "social engineering"? People for the most part will give their password out to anybody who sounds trusting. Of course there isn't much to stop somebody from getting access to the office and plugging into the network (DHCP anyone?). How many times have we heard "The Chinese Hackers...." The only way to secure a system is to take it off the internet. By its nature the internet is wide open to anybody who has the skillz to use it. My suggestion is to all you would be cyber punks is to remember that any computer is traceable unless you know how to cover your tracks.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by 31337]

Originally posted by Illuminottie
reply to post by Erasurehead

 

Thanks for the vid, I haven't seen this one

The funny thing is I opened TPB to find the torrent using this persons browser

thepiratebay.org...

and I got the red screen saying: Reported Attack Site! This web site at thepiratebay.org has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences. Attack sites try to install programs that steal private information, use your computer to attack others, or damage your system.

Some attack sites intentionally distribute harmful software, but many are compromised without the knowledge or permission of their owners.

This is an example of why we all need to be aware of what the software that is supposed to be "protecting" us is really doing. This is an example of pure censorship. I have seen Norton considering programs like "Radmin" (remote administrator by Famatech) to be considered a trojan where it is actually a very useful computer support program. When we give up control of our computers to a variety of programs we are giving up our freedoms bit by bit.

I don't know which programs you have that triggered this effect on pirate bay, but it is very safe to say that whatever addon is doing this IS censoring your web browsing experience. If it were me, I'd switch to Mozilla firefox and an antivirus program that wasn't controlled by a huge company. There are many free ones that some of the users here suggest, option B would be to visit wubi-installer.org... and try ubuntu. Now you wont need antivirus and Firefox comes free.

Thanks for reading.
..Ex

Originally posted by 31337
My suggestion is to all you would be cyber punks is to remember that any computer is traceable unless you know how to cover your tracks.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by 31337]

I thought I was undercover ....

no seriously man .... yeah its understood there are "bad guys" with skillllz ..that could take us all out!

I'm just glad we have a Maverick like Jay Rock to clean up this place and keep us all safe!

[edit on 24-3-2009 by sayiamu]

I think I see where this is going.......don't do it Admiral. That wouldn't be very admirable of you. Besides, enough people know how to create,setup and work networks now that even if you took it away....the hackers out there would just create underground servers with new encryption (considering the NSA would have the keys and the already cracked encryption methods of the old......oh, and their new tech which they won't let us have or know about). Anyway, It won't be legal (who knows what legal is anymore anyway)...but I guarantee it will be in place. Unfortunately, they will have to guard their servers with their lives and the watchers will even have to be watched because of traitors and rats that infiltrate in the name of gov't.The new encryption methods would actually have to be created anew on a week by week basis, anti-tracing devices, government itself would be easy to infiltrate because they always need tech-heads in this war against humanity. So the hackers would really always be a step ahead.One would have to make a blood oath first, that country indeed is more important than money (not easy to do)...but they are there. This new underground internet, should be protected in a faraday cage and wifi should be used instead of cabling for the most part although one would still have to be careful as you can still be traced. In a nutshell, it won't be over, it will just be nastier. Only a prediction on my part as I don't even know basic math. 2+f(f)=3 (see).

[edit on 23-3-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

dnaleri -- no offense taken, your point is valid. all im saying is some thought is needed about what would happen to the world WITHOUT an elite of some kind... i think what im saying is it's inevitable that there has to be a ruler or rulers to govern the people.

human history shows 2 kinds of government

1. despotism/dictatorship and im gonna lump in communism here too -- which is rule by an OVERT elite, a commanding elite at the top of the apex that decides for everyone else. freedom under this system is clearly restricted. command and control economies are usually dire and lead to poverty.

2. democracy -- which is rule by a secret elite, camoflauged by the pretence of a democracy and a false left/right divide. behind the facade there is a cabal of rich and powerful people controlling events all the time. freedom is therefore an illusion, but at least people feel more free and economies usually flourish more. i think americans today have more tangible freedom than say people who live in russia.

BUT, clearly something is going very wrong with the american dream today -- and this is shame, for the beginnings held so much promise. the origins of the current crisis go back to 1947, to the National Security Act and the formation of the NSA. CIA, etc etc and the rise and rise of the military industrial complex. you guys have been LIED to and LIED to until nobody knows the difference between right and wrong anymore, huge swathes of your government and tax dollars are UNACCOUNTED for. that is a BETRAYAL of the founding fathers dream is it not?

so, yes, any government moves to restrict/control/subvert the net need mass public scrutiny but this is a genie they cant get back in the bottle i think. BUT anarchy is not the anser. you guys need to go back to your roots, remember the dream, and get these unaccountable criminals back under control....

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[edit on 24-3-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

Wow.

The article is so slanted and taken out of context from the video it is ridiculous.

He is clearly stating that cybersecurity is a huge national hazard not the internet as a whole.

I really like AJ, I do, but every time I read an article like this then find the source material later on I get extremely disappointed.

If the net is homogenised and we can no longer delve into conspiracies online, there is the old fashioned way pre - net days.

The telephone and snail mail.
It might be slower and a bit more expensive, but there is no controlling the flow of information.
In fact, I'd suggest people rent a post office box for those days when the Net is no longer at our disposal.

Even before the telephone and snail mail , they used carrier pigeons.

You just have to think outside of the box and be creative when the fascists take over.

Originally posted by N3krostatic

Originally posted by v3_exceed

Originally posted by mikerussellus
Could I have everyones IP addresses? Just so when the revolution comes about I can earn extra government chits for free cheese by turning everyone in

You shure can

My Ip address is 127.0.0.1

Hehe ..
..ex

Ah some humor finally!
LOL
Oh and mine is 192.168.1.1!

A Linksys default router...nice. Seriously though,, handle the below address with care.

Here ya go 12.110.110.204 Just please don't hack me or anything, I am trusting you 100%. I have too much important stuff that I don't want leaked to the public.....oh and it's worth alot of money and could end world hunger and this recession problem within an hour or two...but you wouldn't do that, nah, I trust you.

[edit on 24-3-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

You can't really control the internet. China has tried, but from what I've heard, they're failing pretty hard. There's always a way around controls, etc.

Not to mention, you shut one site down and another one opens up to replace it.

People can say what they want about the new generation, but there's one thing about them that people don't realize.

They are the children of the digital age.

Try to take away their internet and see what happens. Cut their ability to communicate and you'll see some insanely pissed off people.

Not to mention the people of the internet adapt to things extremely fast.

Censor me Rockefeller, I dare you mother ####er

[edit on 24-3-2009 by aravoth]

If they wish to have a network that is only accessible by their branches they should employ IP filtering. Just block out ALL addresses EXECPT the ones you specify as your branch locations.

Is it a perfect fix? No, but it would sure as heck cut down on those 3 million attempts per day.

Seriously makes me nervous about the capabilities of their network security officer...