Fox News Mocks Canadian Military

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


I'm sure that people ARE offended by it, and that's certainly their right. It was offensive, no doubt about it. But playing devil's advocate...what does anyone expect? The show is often rude, sarcastic and occasionally mean-spirited in the way it attacks the subjects of current events stories.

Given that, I just don't think its worth getting all bent out of shape over. Besides...at 3am, no one is watching it anyway.

Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

I'm sure that people ARE offended by it, and that's certainly their right. It was offensive, no doubt about it. But playing devil's advocate...what does anyone expect? The show is often rude, sarcastic and occasionally mean-spirited in the way it attacks the subjects of current events stories.

Given that, I just don't think its worth getting all bent out of shape over. Besides...at 3am, no one is watching it anyway.

Well, with the internet, it really doesn't matter when its on because it ends up all over net news sources the next morning. As was said in a earlier post, hiding behind comedy while saying rude and offensive things is not a excuse for offensive content. When it comes to our serving troops on either side of the border, a little respect should be shown between to such allies.

Quite frankly, Fox news should apologize for these offensive and stupid comments. Do I actually think they will, nope.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


I wouldn't apologize for it if I were them. Its what the show is. They hired him knowing what they were getting.

The decision that needs to be made is whether or not they should pull the plug on it. I don't think I would do that, afterall, there's always the concept of the first amendment, even if technically it doesn't apply here.

If enough people are outraged by it, the 300,000 or so viewers of the show will stop watching and it'll be gone soon enough anyway. Personally, there's a great deal of garbage on TV...some of it on the news networks...that I find highly offensive. My solution? Change the channel. I've deleted MSNBC from my TV's programming, for instance.



[edit on 23-3-2009 by vor78]

Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

I wouldn't apologize for it if I were them. Its what the show is. They hired him knowing what they were getting.

If enough people are outraged by it, the 300,000 or so viewers of the show will stop watching and it'll be gone soon enough anyway.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by vor78]

I believe Saturday Night Live and MadTV have apologized a time or two over unintended offensive material, and no one can mistake those shows for anything but satirical comedy. If they gave a apology, Fox new's Red Eye show has no reasons not to. I am realistic though, I know it wont happen short of our PM phoning your Prez and complaining.

300,000 people watch that crap.
Wow is all I can say about that.

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Hiding behind the veil of "Comedy" and light-heartedness when making cracks about dead people, right after they die, is quite another.

I've just watched the segment. There were no cracks about dead people. All I heard is them laughing at the Canadian military.

IMO, most Canadians will gladly accept jokes about Americans, but rarely laugh when the tables are turned.

Frankly, I found the segment a bit offensive, but from what Vor78 posted, it seems to be on par with the show. I doubt I'd ever watch that crap.

Did anyone find Canadian Bacon offensive?

[edit on 23/3/09 by ConspiracyNut23]

So let me get this straight, a couple of idiots on some late night fringe Man Show type of deal made a joke about Canadian soldiers taking a manicure, and we are supposed to be outraged because these morons somehow represent the country?

Give me a break, you would think the president made fun of disabled people or something outrageous like that.

Originally posted by Retseh
So let me get this straight, a couple of idiots on some late night fringe Man Show type of deal made a joke about Canadian soldiers taking a manicure, and we are supposed to be outraged because these morons somehow represent the country?

Give me a break, you would think the president made fun of disabled people or something outrageous like that.

To the first part, the same day four Canadian soldiers die, this show mocks the Canadian Forces. Reverse the tables and imagine what the response would be. The US media ridicules Canada all the time, the last time Canada said something like "Bush is a idiot", the Prime Minister forced a apology. Bush was a idiot, but we still said sorry even though the person who said it was also a idiot, it was the polite thing to do. Too much to expect from the USA though.

To the second part...... that was great!

You silly Canucks just can't take a joke, can ya'?

Just kidding.
Seriously though, FOX News speaks for less and less Americans all the time. They are the biggest joke of a 'news organization' I can think of.

Murdoch is a criminal.

And they shouldn't even try to approach comedy. They suck at it.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


And, BTW.....(oh I'll get flamed for this!!)

Rupert Murdoch is Australian!!!

Man, the plot thickens......

Fox needs to apologize to these families...




Master Cpl. Scott Francis Vernelli (28), Cpl. Tyler Crooks (24), Trooper Jack Bouthillier (20) and Trooper Corey Joseph Hayes (22) were killed Friday in two roadside bomb blasts in Kandahar province. Eight Canadian soldiers were also wounded. (Department of National Defence)

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker

The US media ridicules Canada all the time, the last time Canada said something like "Bush is a idiot", the Prime Minister forced a apology.

I'm sorry but don't expect us to repeat your mistakes. If you made your media issue an apology for calling Bush an idiot, then your Prime Minister was:

1. Intruding on media free speech; and
2. Over-riding a factually correct statement

Personally I think that Canadians are the nicest people and that your military is top notch.

If someone has to step up and apologize for these 2 morons then let it be me.

Sorry Canada.

There, can we be friends again now

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker
To the first part, the same day four Canadian soldiers die, this show mocks the Canadian Forces.

American soldiers die everyday. Does that mean the US military is immune from humour? The Sun made that link, the producers of RedEye probably had no idea 4 Canadians had died that day.

They didn't laugh at dead soldiers, they laughed at the military. IMO, they're fair game.

[edit on 23/3/09 by ConspiracyNut23]

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TrainDispatcher.....

I am starting to cry....that is the best post one could have made!

Well done, sir.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker

Look I watch this show on occasion and I think it's mostly just guys laughing at crap. THEY WENT TO FAR!

The other night I watched in horror as Greg Gutfeld and freinds on the "Red Eye" belittled Canada and it's contribution to the Afghan mission.
I could not believe the ignorance they spouted in regards to your neighbour to the north.
I found that their comments were insulting and degrading.
It cheapened the sacrifice not only of the Canadian fallen but also those loss' suffered buy our NATO allies including those of the United States.
I argue that they did not even bother to look up any facts to back up their stupidity.

No, I am not being two-faced.. I admit to watching the show as a de-stresser. But they are not usually this blatently ignorant. There is usually some point to the story. This time it was just an attack nothing else!

Greg, You should be ashamed!

reply to post by palg1


You are right. You know, people shouldn't put up with that kind of bullsnap.
When I watched the video I stared at the screen slack-jawed for quite some time.
In fact, I was following this thread from the beginning and thought a few times about adding to the discussion, but I was at a loss for words.

If they were simply trying to be funny they failed miserably. It looks like Naziesque Nationalism in reality.
Scumbags. The whole lot of them.

And in fact, these scumbags should be GRATEFUL that the Canadians helped us at all. If I had been making decisions for Canada I wouldn't have sent a single soldier to the fight. The entire war is a disgrace to everything a civilized society can call decent. Their boss is in bed with the Republican National Party and this much is evident.
These stooges are nothing more than sorry excuses for political parrots. Hardly worthy of any journalistic noteriety.


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[edit on 23-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

Humour or not, the country and its government is not taking it well.

The Ottawa Citizen is the newspaper every Canadian politician reads and this story is the top headline today:

The controversy comes as the bodies of Canada's four most recent Afghan casualties are due to arrive at CFB Trenton. The soldiers were killed Friday in two separate IED blasts.

www.ottawacitizen.com...

Timing, for comedians, is everything.

Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker
To the first part, the same day four Canadian soldiers die, this show mocks the Canadian Forces.

American soldiers die everyday. Does that mean the US military is immune from humour? The Sun made that link, the producers of RedEye probably had no idea 4 Canadians had died that day.

They didn't laugh at dead soldiers, they laughed at the military. IMO, they're fair game.

[edit on 23/3/09 by ConspiracyNut23]

So I guess our soldiers were getting petticures when they were killed. Not at all doing their duty like our southern neighboors troops. Give me one example of Canadian media ridiculing or saying offensive remarks about the US Forces. Doesn't happen. Why? Manners.

reply to post by masqua


masqua.....I know your reference, re: 'timing'.....

they aren't comedians.....they are untalented know-nothings....

It breaks my heart to see this kind of....(insert bad word) ... get aired at all.

Under the guise of 'Satire'!!!!

Baloney!!!

Red eye isn't even satire, its a pure comedy show based largely on innuendo, "your mom" insults, jokes about transexuals and AIDS etc. You need a very, very high level of tolerance and a sense of humour to be able to watch it.

Anyone who takes anything said on Red Eye seriously has way too much time on their hands.

Nothing is said seriously on Red Eye... absolutely nothing. Gutfeld sometimes says stuff like "Bill, thats because you hate black people" etc. Plainly stuff like this isn't meant to be taken seriously. The "half time report" by Andy Levy is done half in jest and half in an attempt to provide real clarifications on the statements made (for legal defensibility).

It's just a ridiculous show that some people (including myself) find entertaining.

reply to post by weedwhacker


I wonder if Prime Minister Harper will be anxious to do another interview on FOX after this debacle.



Talk about shooting themselves in their collective feet. It wasn't serendipidy that prompted Harper to go on FOX before CNN.

Not a wise move at all.