U.S. Declaration of Insolvency -- [HOAX]

reply to post by ziggy1706


"Prepare for things to get crazy".....how true, I can only say that it is already crazy and now we (all living creatures) are now in the twilight zone. What ever happens prior or after April 15th of this year will continue to be unreal and represent thousands of lies and scams form "very nasty individuals in very high places". Could have never (in a billion, trillion years) imagined what I and others (that know) is happening on planet earth today, tomorrow and from here on out. Their is a better way of life but who would listen and who would be able to see this path in this crazy, insane world we now live in. Sometimes I wished I was "brain dead" and then realize "I am".

Live each day as it would be your last one, enjoy as much as is possible what God has blessed you with and care for others you know personally who depend on you. Seek that which is above and know longer depend (completely) on things around you. We all die and yet their is life in this death for it will lead to a better way. Rejoice for your redemption comes quickly. Siritual? well maybe but in reality, just a lonely heart desiring that all of mankind would one day live in peace and be sastisfied with what is right and good.

I don't know, but if one of my creditors were to go bankrupt, I would still end up paying my bills....although, the check might end up going somewhere else. I can't imagine that it would be different if the gov't went belly up...except well, they possibly would be more forceful in collecting the debt..

I think this might be a hoax. although it wouldn't surprise me to see the gov't follow the path of some of the states and just announce a delay or halt to any refunds.

Sorry guys sounds like a hoax to me. The FED would just fire up the printing presses to pay the tax payments and other debt owed. So have to BS on this one.

I believe it is a HOAX as well. If it is, this poor guy that has put this hoax onto the net, if caught, will be facing some bad time indeed. Not only would this be defamation against the US it would severely damage the US and Federal Reserve due to knee jerk reactions from believers worldwide. And believe me; they will be looking to put the squeeze on this guy if they get hands on him.

If we filed it would have to be in World Court, not our own Fed's court.

To answer above about still oweing taxes would be no.

The very fact that the IRS laws have been in front of the Supreme Court and lost means that if rule of law was applied, their code to collect would not hold up.

I also believe this to be a hoax seeing how it falls "15 days before April 15th" - APRIL FOOLS DAY! No doubt ending the fed and irs would be a grand gesture though i have to question ANYthing this government does and for what is in it for them

reply to post by TheAgentNineteen


The reason they don't enact any legislation to make income tax legal is because if they did that, then it would be apparent that there never was an income tax law and the people would yell "off with their heads". The main argument right now from the IRS, is that there is an income tax law (of course nobody really seems to care and investigate their claims, or they just believe the IRS because they are too lazy to look it up).... the IRS has yet to show us any law though.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by sliceNodice]

If anyone cares, you can find out the truth at:

www.losthorizons.com

Find out for yourself what some of us already know.

rusty

reply to post by antar


Most of the people who are expecting refunds have likely already filed and received their tax refunds.

1. fourwinds is not valid source for anything other than scams
2. fourwinds was a massive promoter of nesara which was a huge scam and can be investigated at quatloos.com
3. casper, it seems, is promoting their newest scam.

this is total, baseless garbage. all of it is done to promote a scam that involves taking your money and passing it along to the folks behind fourwinds.



[edit on 23-3-2009 by Crakeur]

The author of the sourced email has attempted this before --

2007:
US FEDERAL INCOME TAX IS DEAD

RIP: The Federal Income Tax Officially DIED today (3/27/2007)

More to be found at this Google search where one can see several parallels with the tripe spewed by the Dove of Oneness.

Paul Mitchell, who founded Supreme Law, probably knows and understands more about tax law than the IRS itself. He has filed numerous things against the IRS that were based on tax law and IF we had an honest government, he would win every time. But, we don't have an honest government, so whatever he files, no matter how correct it might be, gets thrown out.

I really am surprised the "authorities" haven't suicided him. He has definitely been a thorn in their side for many years but guess he has been demonized enough that now he's just laughed at and made fun of. He does know his stuff though.

I have been reading Mitchell's stuff and doing the research to verify for about 20 years. He's right on everything I have read and researched.

It makes sense to me, especially if the Stimulus bill was 1079 pages and only 4 copies available. They didn’t have enough time to read the thing before voting. Maybe it’s hidden in the bill somewhere.

I find the whole thing underhanded. They snuck in things that we didn’t know about. Obama got a lot of criticism over the lack of transparency.

It’s true that we may be near a global financial collapse. I also agree the G20 will address this issue in April. I truly think we are headed for a World bank.
I don’t see any way out and the guys in pwer, themselves don’t know. We are playing Casino here. If Obama’s stimulus plan fails then all hell will break loose.

Printing more money will soon cause hyperinflation. History tells us that spending our way out of a recession doesn’t work.

I think they are bankrupting us intentionally to create a NWO. They wont label this the Great Depression 2 until after it’s over. Determining a Depression goes beyond unemployment at 25%, which I think is likely to happen before 2011.

The temporary bear market rally is doomed to crash soon. It was never intended to be an economic indicator but it is now. Speaking of DOW does anyone know what happened on March 21st that caused the DOW to drop so much? I wasn’t following it that day. I’m guessing Timmy Geitner spoke?

This recession is quite different, many different variables involved plus the fact it’s global. My thought all along is they will devalue all currencies to create the global currency.

We can never return to the gold standard. There isn’t enough gold. Our money is backed by nothing not even GDP. What colored flag will be flying in your states?

Though this is a hoax, it wouldn't matter even if it was true. The US Gov. has declared bankruptcy twice already (1933,1972) and nothing changed in regards to what the people saw or believed to be real. It would only be a means to usher in a new currency, however they are well on their way to doing that anyway. There simply is no need to declare bankruptcy a third time.

reply to post by pstrron


The difference this time is way are beyond bankrupt and last time it only involved Japan. This time it's a global bankruptcy.

This recession will we the longest since World War 2. Those who expect a turn around in our economy before 2010 are fooling themselves.

Other recessions didnt start printing money hot off the press by trillions of dollars. I know exactly where this is leading.

I'm considering the “Bank of Mattress” lately! My ancestors had no faith in banks after the Great Depression. I like their advice. They hid their money in some very odd places.

I have to call it a hoax. I am thinking that whoever started this rumor is hoping that millions of Americans will not file their income taxes thinking that the Federal Government is about to go bankrupt. Kind of a grassroots tax revolt IMO.

While I might hope that such a tax revolt would take place, I doubt that it will. Also, why would the government plan on going broke 15 days before tax day? To get out of paying a tax refund to millions of Americans?

Hardly, they collect far more money on April 15 than they refund. If anything they will be flush with cash for a few months after April 15. June 30 is a much more likely date for a Federal money meltdown.

Also, please note that the Fed just printed another trillion dollars this past week. Why would they bother if they were planning on being bankrupt in two weeks?

Last of all, what exactly is a "private attorney general"? Aren't all Attorney's General public employees? Seriously.

Originally posted by nwosigns

Originally posted by antar
So does this mean they dont have to pay out all the tax returns to millions of Americans? People count on their returns and that could cause civil unrest if it happens.

Hmmm.... now that would make sense. Seeing as how so much money has been spent, it could mean that there is no real money to pay out.

If this is real, then prepare for things to get crazy.

I am going to owe this time. If it means I don't have to pay this anymore they can keep my money and I will gladly pay them this time too!!!

Originally posted by sliceNodice
reply to post by TheAgentNineteen

 

The reason they don't enact any legislation to make income tax legal is because if they did that, then it would be apparent that there never was an income tax law and the people would yell "off with their heads". The main argument right now from the IRS, is that there is an income tax law

(of course nobody really seems to care and investigate their claims, or they just believe the IRS because they are too lazy to look it up).... the IRS has yet to show us any law though.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by sliceNodice]

Oh trust me, that was the inevitable conclusion which I reached as well. However, with all of the garbage which manages to be passed Annually via Earmarks and the like, it would not be an impossible factor to deal with in this manner.

I do understand your point though, it is a good one

Quite the "Catch 22", is it not?

reply to post by vigusa


Check out this guy: www.paulandrewmitchell.com...

reply to post by wonderworld

The difference this time is way are beyond bankrupt and last time it only involved Japan. This time it's a global bankruptcy.

I fully agree, the point I was making was, if they were trying to say just the US was bankrupt the gov would simply do an reenactment of 1933 and 1972. This of course is not possible on a global scale. Europe is in dire straights with Germany already stating their economy has withdrawn 4.5% and shrinking.

Declared or undeclared is moot at this point. Obama's stimulus (if passed) will increase the total cash in circulation by $3.4 trillion and with $10.4 trillion floating already, bankruptcy is not a question but a fact.

The only thing keeping the gov from declaring it is that it would cause mass panic. However, sooner or later the cats going to get out of the bag and all the fancy talk in the world won't put it back in.

With the Fed using an IOU to pay for an IOU of the gov is the last ditch attempt to keep the Titanic afloat. But we already have 4 compartments flooded and the 5th is taking on water fast. With 3 flooded you get a recession, 4 a depression and 5 total collapse. There simply is no way the gov will admit bankruptcy at this point. Expect the G20 to offer a way out and the gov climbing on the band wagon saying that it will save our bacon.