Were the Roswell visitors from future Earth?

What if the reason that they came back was not to prevent Nuclear weapon (or bio/chem for that matter) exchange, but rather, because they have so over-engineered themselves (ourselves), that they have NO HOPE of continuing down their time-line because they're infertile, and the few of them that remained (in that future) decided to sacrifice themselves (and their time-line) in order to create a new time-line where humans are taught (guided) to live in balance with nature, without genetic manipulation, with faith in our natural beauty and strengths?

But, of course, this is our only known time-line, and we're headed down the same path of self-destruction as them (us). Which simply proves, to me, a theory that I've had since childhood. That is; Humans are (mostly) selfish, stupid, violent, sex-maniacs with a death-wish. The healthy people have accepted this about themselves, and turned to more subtle and meaningful attributes, like grace, thoughtfulness, and responsibility. Turns out, Freud was pretty much spot-on.

And, I would like very much for humans to prove me wrong on this. Because, I'm quite sure that we're doomed, unless logical, intelligent, critical-thinking is encouraged to the highest enforcement of natural laws.

May perseverance, compassion, and acceptance of our place in the natural balance, rule the future of my species.

I hope you all understand that I am saying this with the greatest humility and honor for my descendants and ancestors. We are the human race, and right now, we are losing because most people are not learning enough to keep up with change. So, change will catch them off-guard, which leaves me back to that awful theory about humans. And, we logically understand the reasoning behind the OPs initial theory. May God, help us.

Incurably Irish, in Liberty, by God,
O-315



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Originally posted by Mr Green
reply to post by Pjotr

 

By the way, did you notice that this is thread is going haywire from the start. It is going in all directions. There must be a timeline problem ;-)

My threads always seem to do this

Maybe its me, maybe Im a rubbish OP LOL I dont mind if the MODs dont mind but it is something Ive noticed before about my threads! Or maybe it does have a timeline problem!!

One of the reasons I enjoy watching your threads.

And it's not necessarily a bad thing. Diverse thought, abstract ideas, dynamic discussion, even the occasional delusional babble are all integral to the gleaning of final actuality.

Remaining on topic - my belief is that occupants of a possible Roswell crash are not us as time travelers. My reasoning is simple: following the scenario set forth in the OP (that the visitors were Greys, presumably possesing the standard characteristics generally accepted as a working model; i.e., large head, huge black eyes, spindly and frail limbs, emotionless, etc.), I would suggest that even were these 'visitors' the evolutionary or genetically manipulated human result in the future, they are so radically different as to still not be 'us.'

Originally posted by Wonderer77


One of the reasons I enjoy watching your threads.

And it's not necessarily a bad thing. Diverse thought, abstract ideas, dynamic discussion, even the occasional delusional babble are all integral to the gleaning of final actuality.

Thanks for that. I will try to continue to keep up the delusional babble LOL

Thanks though it was nice of you to write that.

reply to post by Solo954


I can accept that idea a bit more readily. A different reality perhaps than ours.. a parallel version that developed differently do to different circumstances. This is more likely. There are still such drastic variances it seems unlikely but it is more viable than the first ideas presented.

reply to post by NephraTari


Earth species that live in no light conditions have no eyes at all (anymore). Then again extrapolating things from here to another planet, is just plain guessing.

That makes more sense than any other explanation. It was always strange to me how aliens are depicted.

They look too much like humans. Of all the life on Earth only Apes bare any resemblance, so what is the chance that a lifeform from another star system evolved, in appearance and behavior, as we did?

I suppose it is bound to happen in the infinite space and time, but what's the chance that we'd encounter one another and be close enough in development to be of some use to each other?

I think none...this is the past and we are all trying to avoid becoming unattractive, hairless brainiacs with gray and/or green skin and heads that are disproportionately large and arms that are disproportionately long.

The eyes of the Grays are black for a very good reason... because their world is NOT dark...

I speculate that the Gray's home planet is a bit closer to the home star than Earth is to Sol. I also speculate that their world has no moon.

The lack of body hair and fat would indicate a warm environment. Also, the black eyes during the day would help the Grays cope with the brighter light, and UV exposure. At night, the size of their eyes would allow them great nocturnal vision, in the darkness of a night sky without a moon.

Their world is by no means dark.

-OrvaniSpokesperson

Ok none of this makes sense. If Greys have fragile bones and big heads because they come from a place with less gravity or whatever, they wouldnt be able to live or function in the amount of gravity we have here. They would just topple over or collapse. For instance if man traveled to a place with greater gravity we would design special suits to overcome the difference.

Also, look at human behavior. We would never intentionally evolve ourselves to look like a Grey. If some future genetically enigineered human were to appear they would be muscular, beautiful, and very sexually pronounced. What do people have done when they get plastic surgery. We are a sex driven creature.

So Greys either don't exist (which is what I believe) or their exterior is just part of a suit or they are a droid designed to study the planet ie the mars rovers. Maybe there are tiny creatures inside this Grey looking suit and they control this robotic suit body.

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Originally posted by huckfinn
That makes more sense than any other explanation. It was always strange to me how aliens are depicted.

They look too much like humans. Of all the life on Earth only Apes bare any resemblance, so what is the chance that a lifeform from another star system evolved, in appearance and behavior, as we did?

I suppose it is bound to happen in the infinite space and time, but what's the chance that we'd encounter one another and be close enough in development to be of some use to each other?

I think none...this is the past and we are all trying to avoid becoming unattractive, hairless brainiacs with gray and/or green skin and heads that are disproportionately large and arms that are disproportionately long.

Hmmmm, well stars and galaxies look similar everywhere ... why not aliens?

reply to post by Donnie Darko


They look similar due to the laws of physics and gravity. For instance, gravity is why all the planets become round or slightly oval. They are only slightly oval when there is another large object nearby that is exerting gravitational pull on them etc..

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Really makes you think more about divine intervention and the concept of fate when they came here to fix everything and by chance crashed.

reply to post by The-3-Symbolz

i guess you guys dont want to listen to me but thats ok thats why humans are going to be continue seeking answers but will never find any cause they are look at the wrong place let me repeat it one more time its all witchcraft people here is hint there are 3 invisible worlds in this world we live in this aliens are not coming from another far away planets but here on earth its self and thise so called aliens that we all talk about is nothing more than human beings from africa transforming into them and could shape shift invisible a patic mind controllers could be at many many many places at once

I cant find your other post but this one still says UFOs are witchcraft and filled with shape shifters from the inner Earth.

Well you may be right about the craft coming from inner Earth, under the sea or even from invisable dimensions, but I cant see where the witch craft/cult connection you mentioned before comes into it.

Thousands of people have seen UFOs and these people have no witchcraft connections. Many have seen actual aliens and although some of these people may be into strange practices/rituals Im sure the majority dont.

One thing I will say though is this, once aliens/UFOs have been seen it does tend to send you a little "crazy" shall we say. You do tend to question your sanity and maybe do question is it the result of some witchcraft. This is more intense when aliens are seen rather than UFOs.

Sorry off topic but I did promise to reply to you.

I've said it before, those Grey types look very East Asian. If the future is Chinese then there's a good chance the time travellers of the future will be so too.

Originally posted by NovusInvictus
Really makes you think more about divine intervention and the concept of fate when they came here to fix everything and by chance crashed.

Now wouldn't that be ironic!

Great observation.

This Topic has already been covered here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

For more info on Greys, visit this site. He has the same concept about humans evolving into Greys.

spookysdaddy.com...

reply to post by Donnie Darko


But, that we have come in contact with them. With so many similar galaxies and solar systems what are the odds that they would find ours, assuming they have the technology to travel to anyone they choose?

I suppose they are smart, rendering luck obsolete.

Or perhaps our futures and pasts exist on planets orbiting around suns all around deep space. This way they can be both Aliens and Time Travelers.

Originally posted by Whiteone
This Topic has already been covered here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I did a search but nothing came up, that thread is from 2005, maybe time travel understanding has advanced since then?? Plus it doesnt mention the Project Camelot statement so it is slightly different.

Originally posted by skeptic_al

Evolution might be fast for Insects as they don't live very long.
After 1 week their off looking for a Shag

But Humans take 20-30 years before creating the next generation.
Which is severely going to impact those Minor Evolutionary Changes.

If you take the worst case over 1000 years that's only 33 generations
Insects would of had 52,000 generations. Not even in the same league.

And a Mouse in the wild ~4 months, again several hundred more
generations than humans. Huge difference.

Thanks for responding. I tend to diagree with your logic.
I can cut the human reproduction ratio in half, because we are able to reproduce in 15 years. And then, think of what you could do with lab circumstances, supposedly if you HAD to adjust the human form to adjust to external forces.
But in normal circumstances there is of course a difference in timeframe, but that does not effect the basics. That is why we experiment with insects and mice. The genetics work the same. And the insects do not need 52.000 generations, as you can read in the article. They do it in ONE, without gene-altering. That is shocking.

We used to think that genes needed a lot of time to alter, now we know one generation can do it. And we can change without it. External pressure is the only thing we need.
We also know now that consciousness and training has a lot to with it.
The intent to learn and practice and light itself activates the growth of the neural pathways for instance. They used to think that braincells grow once and don't alter.

And then in the end if you would stick to 33 geneartions in a 1000 years. The story off the future humans is that they are from 50.000 years from now, so they have at least 50 times 33 generations which give us 1650 generations according to your calculation. If you set your mind to it with the acceleration ratio of science as it is doing now, and with a outside pressure you can do al lot in that time.

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Hi All.

I'm new..this is my first post.

In respects to if Grays are indeed us in the future, why they look so completely different. Couldn't it be entirely possible that they've been genetically modified? I mean, humans have been experimenting with crossing different species, cloning cows, sheep, perhaps at some point in the future humans have been crossbred with another species (an ant?) that resulted in what we see in the Gray aliens. ???

Just a thought.

Originally posted by Mr Green

Originally posted by Whiteone
This Topic has already been covered here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I did a search but nothing came up, that thread is from 2005, maybe time travel understanding has advanced since then?? Plus it doesnt mention the Project Camelot statement so it is slightly different.

Never mind that, that was a bookkeeper. Those people are out here to kill a new mindset. Keep it going, it is a interesting subject. Camelot deserves a good discussion. I did not spend watching all those videos for nothing.
It was a thrill and whatever is going on, we all know here that something IS going on and covered up. Speculating. guessing and evaluating keepd the mind fresh.