Recollections of a past life in Another Planet.

Originally posted by mystiq
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www.abovetopsecret.com...
(don't know if a castrophe is coming or not, but believe his contact is real, and intend to write to yummyfreelunch about something related to this one).
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Thanks for the links and btw, that man from France is right. There is a planet, or possibly a small dark star that will soon pass by close to our Solar System, and which many cultures have written about in the past.

Every time Nemesis/Wormwood/Nibiru, which probably still has planets or moons around it, passes close to the Solar System disasters occur on Earth. But sometimes it has come closer than other times, and at least once one of the moons, or planet that was around this massive body collided with one planet in the Solar System.

There is truth to this.

One of the people who has also talked about this is Father Malachi Martin.

Here is a link where you can listen to an interview that Art Bell made to Father Malachi Martin before his death.

www.cyberspaceorbit.com...

He didn't know the exact time, although he did say by 2007 we will probably begin to see it. We have been, and are feeling it's effect on Earth, and the entire Solar System including the Sun, which are reacting to the approach of this massive body.

As it is getting closer we will continue seeing an increase in meteors striking Earth, or pass by our Solar System, as well as an increase volcanic/magmatic activity, and an increase in other natural disastes until the dark body/planet passes.

Humanity will survive, but I am afraid that only some will, and people will suffer in ways no one should.

By then many people will learn that underground is the safest way to have a home on a planet such as Earth. That is until either we get enough knowledge to avoid other future disasters, or mankind is able to reach other stars on intergallactic ships.







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wormwood is not a planet. it might be something like a death star type technological thing, but it isn't a planet. i think it may be a massive mothership but nowhere near the size of a planet or a moon for that matter.

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BTW, here is some information about Father Malachi Martin, he was a very reliable source, more so since he was part of the Vatican, although he was a good man who wanted to inform the people, and was a very learned man.

Malachi Martin
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fr. Malachi Brendan Martin Ph.d S.J. (23 July 1921 – 27 July 1999) was a former Jesuit priest, theologian, writer on the Roman Catholic church and professor at the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Institute. He was also the author of sixty books which covered religious and geo-political topics. He was controversial commentator for the Vatican and other church matters. [1]

He was also the brother of the late Irish cleric, historian and activist, F. X. Martin.

Early life and education
Martin was born in the village of Ballylongford, County Kerry, in the Irish Republic. He received his secondary education at Belvedere College in Dublin, and became a Jesuit novice on the 6th September 1939. Due to the Second World War and the inherent risks involved with travel during this time, Malachi remained in Ireland and studied at the National University of Ireland where he received a bachelor's degree in Semitic languages, Oriental History whilst carrying out concurrent study in Assyriology at Trinity College.

Upon completion in Dublin, Malachi was sent to the Catholic University of Leuven in Belgium to continue with his scholarly learnings. During the four year stay in Leuven he completed degrees in Philosophy, Theology, Semitic Languages, Archeology and Oriental History. On the 15th August 1954, the day of the Feast of the Assumption, Martin was ordained a Jesuit Priest.

Father Martin commenced with parallel studies at both the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and at Oxford University, specializing in intertestamentary studies and knowledge of Jesus Christ from Hebrew and Arabic manuscripts. He undertook additional study in rational psychology, experimental psychology, physics and anthropology.[3]


[edit] Work and ordination
Father Martin took part in the research of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and published twenty four articles on Semitic paleography in various journals.

He was summoned to Rome to work within the Holy See and act as the private secretary for Augustin Cardinal Bea S.J.. Whilst in Rome, he became a professor within the Pontifical Biblical Institute of the Vatican, where he taught Aramaic, paleography, Hebrew and Sacred Scripture.

According to his book Hostage to the Devil, he assisted in several exorcisms. Psychiatrist M. Scott Peck, author of The Road Less Travelled, developed a friendship with Martin and was influenced by the latter in the development of his theories of evil and exorcism.

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en.wikipedia.org...

I apologize for the long quote but i want to emphasize the knowledge and connections Father Malachi had which gives more credence to this last message he gave us before he died.




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Originally posted by undo
wormwood is not a planet. it might be something like a death star type technological thing, but it isn't a planet. i think it may be a massive mothership but nowhere near the size of a planet or a moon for that matter.

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I am pretty sure you are talking about something different.

Every culture that talks about this massive body says the same, and for something to affect the entire Solar System it must be very dense, and massive.

when sitchin suggested wormwood might be another name for nibiru, just realize he spent very little time trying to decipher new testament prophetical texts. he put the bulk of his research into old testament (he's jewish, remember?) text. if he had spent as much time figuring out what the newer texts meant as he did the older ones, he would've realized wormwood is not big enough to cause perturbations of the planet as far as force of gravity and all that jazzola. now it could ostensibly use weapons that have that effect but sheer force of mass gravitational forces, nope!

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Sitchin was not the only person to ever study Nibiru/Wormwood/Nemesis/Marduk. There might be something like you talk about out there, but that is not Nibiru/Wormwood/Nemesis/Marduk.

In the visions I have been shown about the natural disasters that will occur, and are occurring on Earth, I was shown that something massive which is coming is the cause of it all.



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well wormwood (i researched this) is actually pyramidal in shape (think of a goa'uld hatak)



it's my theory, anyway

i wrote a free ebook on the topic of wormwood and nibiru.
you can read it here, but be aware that i have since learned even more related info and should really update the ebook


www.thestargates.com...

People are being prepared and are working with some of the good races that want to help mankind, and in the future there will be more contact.

That which you talk about will happen later, and after the disasters, and the war.

That thing that you talk about cannot, and it is not the cause of the changes that the entire Solar System, and Earth, are undergoing.

Listen to the interview of Father Malachi Martin, this is a man that really had high and powerful connections.

He was slowly telling those who would listen truths that many powerful people in the Vatican want to keep safe, and for the world not to know.

He died tragically when a fall caused a stroke and his heart failed in 1999.

Before I ever heard about Father Malachi Martin I was given a vision of mayor disasters which would be caused by something massive approaching the Solar System.

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well it's the only mention of wormwood by name, in the prophetical texts. so calling nibiru wormwood is at the very best, guessing, as they have no other reference to draw it from.

next, and believe me, i've studied sitchin and the sumerian texts as well...

nibiru is not a thing, it's an event. it's not a noun, it's an adjective. it's modifying the noun it refers to, in this case, the noun is marduk (jupiter planet) and the modifier (event) is the crossing of jupiter, across the meridian of the sky.

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In your ebook you make a big jump, and assume that Wormwood must be a spaceship. You also added a picture of a painting from the 13 century or so of a ufo trying to put emphasis on your theory.

The mention of a fallen star could be just that, what they thought was a star falling, and not an idiom.

The thing is that Wormwood could very well be a large body, and parts of wormwood fell on Earth, covered a third of the waters, poisoning them. It doesn't have to be a spaceship, more so when the description of wormwood doesn't say that there was any aliens inside it, or that came out.




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there were no chapter designations in the original texts. chapters 8 and 9 were
ongoing, non-stop references without chapter or verse numbers, possibly layered over top of one another, adding more detail each time.

the mountain on fire, falling to the earth = holy mountain descending thru our atmosphere, for example. the reason i included the artwork of the star thing being piloted by someone is that the fallen angel and falling star references were synonymous.

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Originally posted by undo
well it's the only mention of wormwood by name, in the prophetical texts. so calling nibiru wormwood is at the very best, guessing, as they have no other reference to draw it from.

next, and believe me, i've studied sitchin and the sumerian texts as well...

nibiru is not a thing, it's an event. it's not a noun, it's an adjective. it's modifying the noun it refers to, in this case, the noun is marduk (jupiter planet) and the modifier (event) is the crossing of jupiter, across the meridian of the sky.

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It is not guessing, you are trying to guess and make something else of what the ancients were telling us.

According to the ancients this massive planet/star approaches periodically, sometimes causing more destructions than at other times. Even though all cultures gave it different names, they all say it brings destruction, and death when it approaches the Solar System.

There is a link in all the stories named by the ancients, that is not guessing. You are the one trying to guess something different. In part you are also right, because this is part of the experience/event which we must go through again. But these changes, and disasters are not being caused by a spaceship.

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no, according to sitchin not according to the ancients. he picked up on velikovsky's theories about pertubations and mass extinctions and built his theory from there. problem is, there are so many gaps in the data. if you look at the events in revelation, it even indicates a war in heaven in which the one third (the fallen) are forced out of the space around our planet and who then land here with a vengeance. clearly the text does not mean real heavenly bodies. one third of the stars would do more than land here, they'd pulverize the planet in less than a second

the texts of revelation provide metaphorical symbols which it then translates for you so there is no doubt in your mind of what the reference is saying (provided of course, you are studying it not just skimming over it). chapter 8 tells you about the arrival of wormwood. chapter 9 tells you about the arrival of a fallen star (wormwood) that contains an angelic being of fallen nature, who proceeds to open the abyss (enki's abzu, which i theorize is a stargte buried in the euphrates river) with a key. it's got a gate, the gate is unlocked, and the gate goes somewhere else, and the things that come out of it sound like these guys



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Ok, the idea of this blue star, Kachina, as the Hopi natives call it, or the dwarf star that SM was told about that has the annanuki's return connected to it, or Nibiru, is not a given here. For many reasons actually. I would be more likely to listen to the Hopi myths than Sitchin's stuff. SM's contacts told him it was an interdimensional star that may turn up. Robert Miles was told that by his nordic contact (I watched his interviews by Coast to Coast on youtubes) that it was actually a federation ship that was taken in to tip this planet when too much technology (ie. space age abilities) emerged with our lack of spiritual growth or compassion. In other words, technology had to match humaneness, and matches aren't allowed in bullies hands by the universes.

All of these stories to me depict one thing. Are we worth saving? Is our propensity towards violence and the ability to allow most of the world's population to live in gruelling starvation conditions while a few are benefitted nature or nurture. I argue nuruture. Norway and the Scandinavian countries with proprotional democracy and a wonderful blending of male and female energies translating into superlative programs for its people, minority style governments and much public imput and influence, has an almost 0% murder. They're already half ascended though they're still stuck in a monied system whereas the mission I've been given is a moneyless resource society, preferably hightech like the venus project, but grass roots, proportional democracy style of it. This is how ets live.

My point, is I refuse to give the negative any power here. I've already been shown that my home is elsewhere, and I'm getting there, with as many people as possible, in or out of body, one day. This is a great hope and inspiration to me. So whatever lies ahead we need to focus on some things.
SM's account was about small groups that have always had compassion and are trying to hand in good reports to the larger bodies who can rescue us and get of the renegades and solve this Kachina/nibiru problem or whatever other problems are coming one or another, even if they have to take us off planet. We need to shine our lights and act in a cooperative, compassionate and caring way with one another.

I even tongue in cheek on one of his other threads, because the Orzeml one, and the one "are we worth saving" are all good, asked what men would do if they just took women away, most of us are cooperative and want a world where all the children are well cared for as it is, this is hardwired into us. Maybe they could take us away while the men made some changes. We would have to totally approve of what they did before we would be willing to come back. Tongue in cheek, but half serious too! This world, run by renegades, is patriarchal, dog eat dog, non-cooperative mess!

We need to ask for help. If enough of us do, the tipping balance (not earth from nibiru either!) occurs. The non-interference contracts, the non-massive contact laws that the renegades ruling earth have considered legal (they're crimes! you cant own people) will be over. The larger bodies or federations consider us co-conspirators with the governments/leaders/cabal/renegades and responsible for the wars, starvation and enviro damage as well by our continual laziness and greed or fascination with the toys and games they keep giving us, so we continue to vote in scoundrels! Every few years we have the opportunity to change the system and vote in one of ours and overhaul. Every year, we can meet up and start talking an alternative to this one, and get something ready to be voted in on the next election, and we all have the manpower to throw out anything we dont want anyway. Theres many of us and only a few of them!

We're co-conspirators. But we need to be helpful, sharing, caring, cooperative people. And we need to ask for help. I felt a timeline change myself. I felt a positive wave. Hopefully, help is coming.
This thread is about asking for help: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Positivity is required. We should pump out as much positive energy, pictures, as possible and rewrite this darn ending everyone. Because even if Kachina doesn't show up (my preferred name for it) theres a lot of depleted uranium bonded to our global atmosphere and we are still in trouble from the fascists.

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well, we aren't in charge so, i think the "are we worth saving" bit is still viable. if we were in charge, things would likely be a whole lot different. as a general rule, we enjoy peaceful coexistence, provided nothing is perturbing that deliberately. sure we like to compete and enjoy rough housing and goofing around, but most people i know are ahborred with the idea of real war, killing and real violence.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
at the end what you are stating is nothing more than ignorant responses.

No ... facts are not 'ignorant responses'. They are just facts.

Yes...Catholic priest can say things like this without going to a Bishop....

No. Catholic priests are NOT allowed to state that a person is possessed by the devil. There has to be an inquiry done by the local Bishops office. Only the exorcist appointed by the Bishops office can deem someone possessed. Therefore your statement that your mother took you to priests who said you were possessed ... and then your statement that you showed no signs of possession ... are not only wrong but contradictory.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I was put in an Opus Dei group/club called ATAZAR in Spain.

again - you can't be 'put in' Opus Dei. It's a calling and it's for ADULTS.

Atazar is a kids camp. It is NOT any kind of rehabilitation for people
who think their kids are possessed. That's supposedly why you were there, right? You said that you got put in the camp because allegedly a bunch of priests said you were possessed. So why would you get stuck in a kids camp to de-possess you if that wasn't even the function of the kids camp and if you showed no signs of possession to begin with?

now you claim to know everything about demonic possesion, and what i experienced is demonic possession?.....

No where did I claim to 'know everything about demonic possession'. :shk:

If you don't have anything constructive to say, it is better if you don't participate at all....

Actually my statements are the most constructive thing going on this thread. Anyone can come along with a fantastic story. It's when the facts are presented that we see if the story holds up.

We're not in charge? Its interesting because in truth many of us have come here to make this change and to ensure that it is a positive one that frees this sytem up, and another thing, that its legally done. I've always felt I have a report to hand in, and claimed galactic laws to assist us when I ask for help half the time because they're real.

We're all, actually collectively in charge. No one can hold a large number of people hostage who don't wish to be held. The question is, since the net the psychos have woven is so intermeshed in every community and nation that getting free would entail bloodshed and innocent lives being lost, is will we be saved, assisted and helped.

Yes, if we ask in large enough numbers!

Edit to add: Another point is how we respond, in disasters! In the titanic for example, the behavior of lending a hand and trying to get everyone to the brow of the ship is the correct way. The idea of people turning on each other in a mad max or lord of the flies survival thing has been brought up time and time again on survival threads. No! Shine your lights, join hands and work together. Take over building, erect tepees, stand together and turn no one down. And keep asking for help! We're being watched over by larger confederations Our actions speak loudly.

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correct. you know the genesis 6 verses about the creation of the nephilim, yes? well if you've seen the stargate series, think of the nephilim like jaffa. they were in charge ante-diluvian. some think they were wiped completely. they were not. enki saved the king of sumer, who was nephilim. (which is why enlil is pissed in the sumerian version of the story, and also why it says in the biblical texts that there were nephilim on the earth in those days and also after (the post flood). the hebrews decided they wanted a king (a nephilim leader) over them, even though jehovah was like, "why???" so clearly the other ancient cultures had nephilim leaders over them and the hebrews must've felt like the odd ones out.



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