Muslims in the UK

They are not being treated differently.
The police are protecting their right to protest.
Even a holocaust denier will get police protection.Its called right to protest.
They are treating them no differently then you if you protested muslims.

reply to post by Pockets


I wanted your definition of "illegals" not Google. Google is a search engine, not a forum of knowledge.

I find it quite surreal that white people have the audacity to go around and fling the word "illegals" after leaving our countries in ruins. Taste that

reply to post by DodgeG1


My whole point of this thread (which I now wonder why the hell I done it) is that it seems like the Muslims are treated differently by the "People in charge" they are almost scared of them.

So I was wondering (if people agree with me) why this is going on? Is there something we are not being told?

seems is your preception correct? muslims are not treated any differnt under the law of this land than any other person.

I dont see how you can say they "the goverment" are scared of "them" What i do think the goverment are scared of is people who are paranoid and think the goverment are scared of them as it leads to miss trust and envy in the community at large.

so No i dont agree with you and as i just stated maybe you are looking into this to much?

reply to post by Skittle


A person who is here

(a) On holiday and overstays there welcome
(B) Comes here undetected "fasle name ect"
(C) Is smugged In (also can be connected with (B)

hope that helps and that is the LAW of the land it applies to everyone who enters our country.

Originally posted by Skittle
reply to post by Pockets

 

I wanted your definition of "illegals" not Google. Google is a search engine, not a forum of knowledge.

I find it quite surreal that white people have the audacity to go around and fling the word "illegals" after leaving our countries in ruins. Taste that

"White people"? That's a bit broad isn't it? It's that kind of generalising that leads to thinking that all immigrants are spongers and all Muslims are terrorists in the first place?

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I see nothing wrong with the question I have asked

But as always with religion it can be a touchy subject

reply to post by SKUNK2


How do you work that out? Im not sure how one would equate that? Im English btw not british, i only say im britsh when im not in the united kingdom...

Im not scared of muslims why should i be? because of what? what is it people question about muslims beacuse im missing a point here? or not understanding this fear aspect ?

are you white? and i dont mean that in a bad way i just mean it seem that if you are racist you automaticly have to be white ? or can you be black and racsit against muslims aswell?

You do understand muslim is a relgion right? not a colour? just like asians or not asaians they are black or are black people specail? I dont get this lable thing here

maybe i have a very simple way how i see things and dont put lables on every apsect of a persons live and live by the law of the land and think everyone should have there right to exsperss there view and practice there faith within the law that is set for everyone?

or am i missing something here?

When someone tells you what you can say, or what you can't say, he is terrorizing, oppressing you.

He is blackmailing you with him "being insulted". That is an act of terrorism.
Government is using this to create frustration in people - potential difference which can be used as power charge when needed.

Everyone is responsible for his feelings and accusing others to be the cause of their feeling "bad" is an attempt to establish control over you.

That's why there are such tensions. Be those "Muslims" or "Tungus" doesn't really matter. It is what they are attempting to do to you.

The whole thing about "political correctness" is identical to this problem. It is a method of submission.

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My friend as a fellow Brit, i know where you are comming from; but i think this is more a representation of our goverment officials desparation to appear both unbiased and not racial (which we all know is a joke).

Institutional racisim, homophobia, and common garden predjuice is alive and well in the UK; whats not recognised is minorities can have these tendencies as well.

Any establishment (council, service, goverment, country or religion) which chooses to look the other way, are fundementally flawed and indicative of a system which needs to be burned down!!

What scares me is if it continues parties like the BNP will get in, and we start heading towards 1930's Germany again; some might say we are nearly there...

reply to post by SKUNK2


yea but they dont get the same air time as "muslims" and i did read what you said, as i pointed out, I dont have nothing to fear no matter how much airtime they get about whatever subject the media thinks is worth the time of day to pollute ones brain with hystria in order to get ratings, its about the polictal climate of the time.. and it sells

Just like when irish people cane over, just like when blacks came here just like the way its always going to be, when people need a scape goat, just the way "we" get the blame for the woes of muslims others will blame the woes on them..

That is how I see it and thats my opion.

What do muslims whine about ? other than being labled and put in the same box as exstream nutjobs who wish to reak havoc like in NI ?

did you see every Irish person being treated this way when people were getting blown up? did you see sien fien on the telly every 5 minutes saying there rights were being abused??

Im not sure what your point is ?

reply to post by bookofthelaw


And on the flip side you could get the equivilant of a "muslim" BNP party witch would be just as bad.

Both sides are to blame for the miss trust and agendas that the media play on to fullest exsstent possible..

always remember good news never sells as much as bad news...

If you think im kidding try watching eastenders or some other tv drama, when do you ever see something happy happen only for it to all fall apart befor it got going...

Thats how the media treats people like we live in some silly TV drama...

Originally posted by bookofthelaw
My friend as a fellow Brit, i know where you are comming from; but i think this is more a representation of our goverment officials desparation to appear both unbiased and not racial (which we all know is a joke).

Institutional racisim, homophobia, and common garden predjuice is alive and well in the UK; whats not recognised is minorities can have these tendencies as well.

Any establishment (council, service, goverment, country or religion) which chooses to look the other way, are fundementally flawed and indicative of a system which needs to be burned down!!

What scares me is if it continues parties like the BNP will get in, and we start heading towards 1930's Germany again; some might say we are nearly there...

Thank you bookofthelaw, finally someone can see it! I can see what you are saying and I agree with you wholeheartedly

Originally posted by theresult
reply to post by SKUNK2

 

How do you work that out? Im not sure how one would equate that? Im English btw not british, i only say im britsh when im not in the united kingdom...

Im not scared of muslims why should i be? because of what? what is it people question about muslims beacuse im missing a point here? or not understanding this fear aspect ?

are you white? and i dont mean that in a bad way i just mean it seem that if you are racist you automaticly have to be white ? or can you be black and racsit against muslims aswell?

You do understand muslim is a relgion right? not a colour? just like asians or not asaians they are black or are black people specail? I dont get this lable thing here

maybe i have a very simple way how i see things and dont put lables on every apsect of a persons live and live by the law of the land and think everyone should have there right to exsperss there view and practice there faith within the law that is set for everyone?

or am i missing something here?

Your misunderstanding the point i made about people fearing Muslims. People fear voicing their opinions about (extremist)Muslims in the UK over being branded and convicted of being a "racist".

read this link here:
news.bbc.co.uk...

Now i know there is nothing wrong with people having their opinions, and that people have the right to protest over any thing they want...But this is out of order...
If a none Muslim spoke out against this(and they did, and got arrested) they would be branded a racist...
This is what the British people are afraid of...

Well I don’t totally agree with the OP, I think he’s imagining a homogenous muslim agenda that doesn’t really exist. But to pretend that there is no social fear of tackling religious or race issues, particularly those relating to Islam, is going too far in the other direction.

You might not be scared of your muslim neighbour and neither am I but I would be surprised if you were truly willing to publish a satirical cartoon about Mohammed, make a film criticizing Islam or write a book suggesting that the basis of Islam is wrong. There is a clear worry about the potential backlash from elements of the muslim community but also a worry about being labelled as racist from the political left.

There is a worsening problem in the UK with effective ghettos existing around the country, a growing anti-British decent within young muslim males, a very dangerous extremist element with a good foothold and a general lack of integration with many. Debate must be open and frank but it is stifled.

The problem imo is the multicultural experiment that has gone wrong. Instead of being allowed to develop naturally the government has interfered and tried to make an artificial community but in doing so have alienated many and put up these barriers to debate I mentioned earlier.

The issue goes much further than Islam in the UK, I think we’re very confused about race in this country and we need to be much more open to sort it out.

I personally think that I agree with the OP, muslims are being treated differently all based on their religion, the government is afraid to say anything against the muslim religion, but to be honest I'm tired of extremists flying off the handle when someone says anything about their religion, I mean I was brought up a catholic and I don't take offence at South Park or Jerry Springers opera, because I don't mind people having an opinion, but when immigrants come over to our country and our government offers the hand of friendship, and they just take take take, and then turn around and moan about our way of life, or our laws, or like today they don't like soldiers that are trying to protect the average person in Iraq that have been persecuted by a dictator, then I think its about time you choose another country because its going to get to the point where the average tax paying citizen that is paying for welfare for these moaners houses, healthcare and groceries will be sick of going to work while you protest and moan moan moan.

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