Pentagon says Chinese vessels harassed U.S. ship

reply to post by Milton the Geek

Ok, first the ship is a Navy spy ship.One of the newest in the fleet.It uses SWATH technology to minimize hull noise so it can locate and track submarines.

Great job researching the technology involved Miltion. I have some new reading to do! Thanks.

There is no doubt the zone the Impeccable was operating in is one of great interest.

Originally posted by ItsallCrazy

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

It's all fun and games when you are selling the barbarians cheap junk to go with the meat scraps and duck sauce, but "you fery fery bad when you no pay" Get out! Get Out!

neither side is probably happy about this...but wow. no need to be racist

I fery sowy!

Jus hilarious

2nd line

[edit on 11-3-2009 by ItsallCrazy]

I thought so. Oh the things I have to do to entertain myself.

Very cool icon by the way.

Thanks for the post and welcome to ATS

Originally posted by Echo3Foxtrot
This must be a recent stick they got up their pooper to pull something like this. And I'll tell you why.

About four or five months ago the small three ship strike group that I deploy on (I'm a Marine) pulled in to Hong Kong for liberty. Now, it could be that they were

A) Intimidated by the strike group

B) Were okay with us moving in to port

C) Saw no threat of us being there

Well, I don't think those are all the possible reasons, but they seem like the most logical ones to me at the moment. Of course I'm also pretty dang tired from work and my brain housing group is hurtin' not to mention that I can't think too clearly. Heh, I guess I should post on here when I'm thinking clearer, but this is how I like to unwind after work.

Hey thanks for your service and sacrifice to us, and keeping us aprised on the changing political moods in your travels.

I hope you get some rest, and stay safe!

Thanks for the post.

reply to post by pstrron

Read the first several pages and no one mentioned this so I thought I'd toss this out for all to chew on. China has a sub base located at Hainan Island, so having a survey/spy ship on their back door would cause some interest.

Hey thanks for adding that and weighing in on the thread my Pirate friend!

Great observations. Thanks for sharing them!

Pirates!!!!

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler


The Chinese seem to be getting a bit touchy after Secretary of State Clinton's visit?

Though surveillance ship is a euphemism for spy ship, what is going on in China now that we need a surface ship close by gathering intelligence.

The plot thickens.

Is it bad debtors are just treated shabbily or is there much more to it?

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

It wasn't spy ship. It was flying the US flag and in international waters, therefore, under the Geneva Convention, it was not a spy ship. There are precise legal distinctions between spying and surveillance.

Obama, like Bush, failed his first test from Communist China.

Bush should have responded more strongly when the EP-3 was rammed by a Chinese jet. It was a marked US Navy surveillance airplane that was over international waters that was called "a spy plane" by the uniformed and traitoe who repeated the Communist lies.

Obama has basically told the Chinese, "As long as you buy our debt, you can push us around!"

reply to post by Techsnow


There are several types of sonar on board.Some active,some passive.Due to the hull design,where two hulls lying mostly underwater support the ship.Like a catamaran,but not really.Of course they would have several phones. Transmitters, receivers on these hulls.More importantly though they use a system called SURTASS- SURVEILLANCE TOWED ARRAY SENSOR SYSTEM. Basically it increases the sensitivity of the the system by have a huge array of recievers picking up noise.So yes they tried to entangle the array. They are also cable of deploying robot buoys that send data via satellite about passing echos that happen by them. These little guys are like mines,just drop them happen stance around the area and one will be sure to hear something.Remember the Chinese have one of the worlds most advanced underground submarine facility's, oh say 70 clicks away.

reply to post by Snisha


well even american economists like Peter Schiff,Krugman etc , believe china will recover quickly , even international banker like Soros says so ,

but they do not say the same for USA

most articles of stratfor are nonsensical and propaganda at best , it even uses debka as source , enough said

[edit on 12-3-2009 by sadchild01]

The Chung Hoon was sent to escort the Impeccable. This destroyer will surely gives the chinese a big scare.

Destroyer to Protect Ship Near China

Originally posted by Jazzyguy
The Chung Hoon was sent to escort the Impeccable. This destroyer will surely gives the chinese a big scare.

Destroyer to Protect Ship Near China

Yeah, I bet those mooning sailors won't be so brave next time!

On a serious note, lets hope this doesn't start any kind of naval build-up on both sides.......last time it was a water cannon and semi-naked sailors....next time it could be a bit more serious

[edit on 12-3-2009 by Curio]

The problem here is that the Chinese arent half as good as playing the Cold war game as the Soviets were and they know it.

No doubt the USN will be sending out a few more intelligence vessels to that area from now on to keep a close eye on things there now that the Chinese have made a fuss over it.

Compared to the USN's Indian Ocean fleet, the PLAAN is still lacking. Besides with so many USN ports in South East Asia, it wont be too hard to get help to assets should the PLAAN decide to escalate the situation.

The whole diversion of questioning the safety of US treasuries is yet another attempt to test Obama and the US in general. Trying the get the US to relent, to capitulate. I doubt its fooling anyone when the Chinese keep buying more US treasury bond of their own volition .

Originally posted by Mainer
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

The report also said that the U.S. ship was unarmed. Somehow I disbelieve this.

I think by 'unarmed' they mean it had no heavy calibre weapons.
A bunch of small arms for the crew is likely.

Originally posted by WatchRider

Originally posted by Mainer
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

The report also said that the U.S. ship was unarmed. Somehow I disbelieve this.

I think by 'unarmed' they mean it had no heavy calibre weapons.
A bunch of small arms for the crew is likely.

No doubt about it that at least on the surface it would be a lightly armed ship. I must say that a standard .45 Sidearm will still put a hole in a boarding party.

If they have a flare gun they are armed! Albeit lightly aremed.

Thanks for the post.

reply to post by sadchild01


I would now like the chance (in what shall be my final post on this topic) concede victory to you "sadchild01" if for no other reason than from a purely editorial standpoint, we both have abysmally failed (in our exchange) to directly address the stated topic of this thread (geopolitical militaristic posturing), conversely we seem to have chosen to lob volleys of "bull scat statistical factoids" concerning the economical cacophony of blather emanating from the Styrofoam Talking Head effigies that masquerade as leaders/news/reality fountainheads pontificating on the subject of U.S/China relations.

I wont presume to deny the folly of the tragic fruition of irresponsible Western largess nowadays. Yet I challenge ANY RATIONAL, ALTRUISTIC, ENTITY present within this sphere of discussion to cite a valid example of practicing, governance that affords a comparable degree of freedom of THOUGHT/EXPRESSION/MOBILITY as does the American(U.S.A.) model.

I know not if this is something in which you shall revel & celebrate. I would hope not, for from what I can discern, in our exchange we have offered no profound resolutions or viable endgames.

Originally posted by WatchRider
A bunch of small arms for the crew is likely.

Of course, the crew of such ships is usually comprised of military personnel and contracted civilians. But what's really important is how many SSN's we had in the area ready to make a few artificial reefs of the Chinese surface ships. The USNS Impeccable has never truly been out there by herself only.