Hey... NASA More UFOs!

I saw the video. Much of these videos have to do with space junk. You can even see them spin in an uncontrolled fashion. However it is the nature of this junk they don't want the public to know about. Whos junk some likely have pre Egypt writing on them and are thousands of years old.
However some are controlled and are a mystery. They could be black opps or ???.

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Yes, thank you for the pic , I did notice the object you made reference to..However it's unlike the rest of the objects.Is your object debris? probably did NASA "blur" it out?...no look at the reasonable tamporing or images by NASA here

Originally posted by Markafeller
I saw the video. Much of these videos have to do with space junk.

Or are they space watchers?

Originally posted by Phage
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What do you think the reaction would have been if I had said, "birds, and debris"?

Am I wrong or was that not your take on the video? You have claimed that's what we have here from the get.

reply to post by alyosha1981

Read what I was responding to.
Context is everything.

(Yes. Birds and debris)


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And "meaning" is key, your take for the beguining was "birds and debris" am I wrong

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The point I was trying (and failed, I guess) to make is that "birds, and debris" is heard so much as an an explanation that it would not have been received any better than my complaint about the source of the video.

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The presenter of the video, has been attacked and shown in a bad light..given. The "birds and debris" excuse is IMO exausted. I expect more from the skeptic side excuse me.

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Why? If I think it's birds and debris and there is every indication that it is birds and debris. If the characteristics of birds and debris entirely fit what we see. If we know there are large numbers of large birds surrounding the landing site. If we know there is often debris drifting around the shuttle. Why would I think it was anything other than birds and debris? Certainly not because the presenter tells me it isn't.

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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by alyosha1981

 

Why? If I think it's birds and debris and there is every indication that it is birds

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What indications? what substantial evidence do you have that the objects are simply birds and debris? If you take a proactive approach and show conclusive fact that the objective object(s) are indeed as you propose, then I'll drop all opinions and move on...Phage really.In the OP I never said" because J.Maussan says so".

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Did you saw the photos and video I posted?

They show birds.

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Birds:

There are photos, articles, and videos that show, without a doubt that buzzards infest the Kennedy Space Center. There is nothing about the "UFO's" in the video which is inconsistent with them being birds. There are not reports of an infestation of UFO's at the Kennedy Space Center. The landings (and launches) are viewed first hand by hundreds of people any yet no one seems to report seeing UFO's at these events.

The only reason to consider the objects to be UFO's instead of birds is a very strong desire (or suggestion) that they are UFO's. That is a result of belief, not evidence.

Debris:

There are photos, articles...
Never mind, see above.

Phage, your take on this has been"birds and debris" from the start yet you have not provided factual counter arguments to support your claims, I give you two points and an invitation to counter: (1) why does the camera man "blur" the shot twice in the video? And why has there been no official NASA explination into the anyomolys?

Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by alyosha1981

 

Did you saw the photos and video I posted?

They show birds.

Yes "they" show birds, your right the video in the OP does not

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Easy way out Phage, Easy way out my friend.

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1) Perhaps because he was attempting to get a better focus. Have you ever used a camera with manual focus? My bet is that if the Maussan didn't cut the video when he did, we would have seen the debris come back into focus.

2) As I said, there are descriptions and photos of, and articles about the debris that is seen around the shuttle. If you're asking me to tell you specifically what each piece of debris is you'll be happy to know that I can't. It is debris, pieces of crud that show up around the shuttle from time to time. The reason it is filmed is that it is trying to be identified so as to know if it may be some critical piece of the shuttle which may have become separated. (remember Columbia?)

Why do you think the birds are UFO's? What about them is not birdlike (considering the low quality of the video)?

Why do you think the stuff around the shuttle is not debris? What unusual characteristics does it display? What unusual motion?

Why do you believe Maussan when he manipulatively implies that the debris is intentionally "blurred". He is deceptive in his selective editing of the press conference, omitting the part that says exactly what the flasher was. Why do you believe him?


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OK, then I guess I have to find a better video of that landing.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by alyosha1981

 

1) Perhaps because he was attempting to get a better focus. Have you ever used a camera with manual focus? My bet is that if the Maussan didn't cut the video when he did, we would have seen the debris come back into focus.

Um even a novice can do better.. nice try.


2) As I said, there are descriptions and photos of, and articles about the debris that is seen around the shuttle. If you're asking me to tell you specifically what each piece of debris is you'll be happy to know that I can't. It is debris, pieces of crud that show up around the shuttle from time to time. The reason it is filmed is that it is trying to be identified so as to know if it may be some critical piece of the shuttle which may have become separated. (remember Columbia?)

Why do these appear around or about every mission?

Why do you think the birds are UFO's? What about them is not birdlike (considering the low quality of the video)?

Where did I say they are definatly birds?

Why do you think the stuff around the shuttle is not debris? What unusual characteristics does it display? What unusual motion?

See first post in this responce.

Why do you believe Maussan when he manipulatively implies that the debris is intentionally "blurred". He is deceptive in his selective editing of the press conference, omitting the part that says exactly what the flasher was. Why do you believe him?
To credit the presenter means subjecting myself to the unfair labelling, And I am not him so I will not do so.

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Ya go ahead and present a NASA "scrubbed" video for our consumption, That'll do plenty to support your case....Waiting, Waiting.....

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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by alyosha1981

 

1) Perhaps because he was attempting to get a better focus. Have you ever used a camera with manual focus? My bet is that if the Maussan didn't cut the video when he did, we would have seen the debris come back into focus.

Why would you have us believe that NASA would employ an un expirenced camera operator, and also seemingly suggest J.Maussan orchestrated the editing of the film to suit his needs? come on Phage...