Bush's connections and now a possible connection to controlled demo consulting and planning company

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: HorusChrist

Frank Lautenberg was a cool senator who exposed the Bush admin's flights for Bin Laden family members. He also criticized Bush admin for paying news columnists. Wonder what they were paying them for, to go along with the 9/11 cover story perhaps?

No, because Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda have taken credit for 9/11.

Bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11

www.foxnews.com...

that's been debunked cuz it was mistranslated on purpose by bush admin, and lesson since is not to trust bush admin on anything since they lied about Iraq WMDs.

a reply to: HorusChrist

that's been debunked cuz it was mistranslated on purpose by bush admin,...

Let these 9/11 hijackers tell you from their own lips.








Al-Qaeda released martyr videos for most of the 9/11 hijackers

The Al Jazeera satellite network shows an hour-long video about al-Qaeda containing footage given to it from al-Qaeda of some of the 9/11 hijackers, including a martyr video from hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari (see September 9, 2002 and September 9, 2002).

A martyr video from hijacker Ahmed Alhaznawi was shown in April 2002. But this new hour-long video contains images of each of the hijacker teams that hijacked Flights 11, 77, 93 and 175 on September 11. These images show pictures of each hijacker in the team floating over a background.


al-Qaeda Reveals 9/11 Hijackers 1

al-Qaeda Reveals 9/11 Hijackers 2

...
and lesson since is not to trust bush admin on anything since they lied about Iraq WMDs.

It is apparent that you are unaware of the rest of the story. That is another piece of disinformation that I have warned 9/11 conspiracy theorist about. For an example, the Unite States didn't lie about WMD because that credit goes to an Iraqi. His name was Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, a.k.a., "Curve Ball." He was the person who concocted that WMD story, not the United States. In fact, Germany and Britain had warned the United States that he was lying. I even watched his interview as he bragged about passing on his false information to the United States. However, WMD was eventually found despite his admission.

BOMBSHELL: New York Times Reports WMDs WERE Found in Iraq!

The New York Times shockingly admitted in an explosive front page report that thousands of WMDs were found in Iraq since the start of the war:

From 2004 to 2011, American and American-trained Iraqi troops repeatedly encountered, and on at least six occasions were wounded by, chemical weapons remaining from years earlier in Saddam Hussein’s rule.

www.thepoliticalinsider.com...


Do Reports of WMD Found in Iraq Vindicate George W. Bush?

WMD were found in Iraq but does it matter?

www.usnews.com...

Now, you know the rest of the story.

a reply to: HorusChrist

I wish I could put Skyeagle on ignore, but I can't find that option here at ATS. Maybe it's just me?

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: HorusChrist

I wish I could put Skyeagle on ignore, but I can't find that option here at ATS. Maybe it's just me?

I know how you feel...

a reply to: Salander

I wish I could put Skyeagle on ignore, but I can't find that option here at ATS. Maybe it's just me?

Is that because you cannot refute his sources?

After a while the shear volume of credible OS sources should prove to you that the OS is basically true.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: HorusChrist

that's been debunked cuz it was mistranslated on purpose by bush admin,...

Let these 9/11 hijackers tell you from their own lips.

Al-Qaeda released martyr videos for most of the 9/11 hijackers

The Al Jazeera satellite network shows an hour-long video about al-Qaeda containing footage given to it from al-Qaeda of some of the 9/11 hijackers, including a martyr video from hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari (see September 9, 2002 and September 9, 2002).

A martyr video from hijacker Ahmed Alhaznawi was shown in April 2002. But this new hour-long video contains images of each of the hijacker teams that hijacked Flights 11, 77, 93 and 175 on September 11. These images show pictures of each hijacker in the team floating over a background.


al-Qaeda Reveals 9/11 Hijackers 1

al-Qaeda Reveals 9/11 Hijackers 2

...
and lesson since is not to trust bush admin on anything since they lied about Iraq WMDs.

It is apparent that you are unaware of the rest of the story. That is another piece of disinformation that I have warned 9/11 conspiracy theorist about. For an example, the Unite States didn't lie about WMD because that credit goes to an Iraqi. His name was Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, a.k.a., "Curve Ball." He was the person who concocted that WMD story, not the United States. In fact, Germany and Britain had warned the United States that he was lying. I even watched his interview as he bragged about passing on his false information to the United States. However, WMD was eventually found despite his admission.

BOMBSHELL: New York Times Reports WMDs WERE Found in Iraq!

The New York Times shockingly admitted in an explosive front page report that thousands of WMDs were found in Iraq since the start of the war:

From 2004 to 2011, American and American-trained Iraqi troops repeatedly encountered, and on at least six occasions were wounded by, chemical weapons remaining from years earlier in Saddam Hussein’s rule.

www.thepoliticalinsider.com...


Do Reports of WMD Found in Iraq Vindicate George W. Bush?

WMD were found in Iraq but does it matter?

www.usnews.com...

Now, you know the rest of the story.

are you admitting the bin laden ones were debunked, hence why you posted this other stuff, who knows who these guys are, if bin laden videos are debunked that debunks everything else.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: HorusChrist

I wish I could put Skyeagle on ignore, but I can't find that option here at ATS. Maybe it's just me?

lol yeah they don't have that feature here or most other message board forums these days, technology getting worse. this site is controlled and they don't want us to be able to ignore plants.

wait skyeagle thinks bush made an honest mistake in trusting curveball who lied about WMDs being in Iraq, but as it turns out skyeagle thinks WMDs were found anyway? hogwash everywhere there.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Salander

I wish I could put Skyeagle on ignore, but I can't find that option here at ATS. Maybe it's just me?

Is that because you cannot refute his sources?

After a while the shear volume of credible OS sources should prove to you that the OS is basically true.

No, his "sources" are stale and long ago shown to be inaccurate and invalid.

Most of his spam I just scroll by, but his rare short and substantive posts I cannot help but read.

a reply to: HorusChrist

are you admitting the bin laden ones were debunked, hence why you posted this other stuff, who knows who these guys are, if bin laden videos are debunked that debunks everything else.

No mystery as to whom they are, they were the 9/11 hijackers.

a reply to: Salander

No, his "sources" are stale and long ago shown to be inaccurate and invalid.

That is false, and I challenge you to prove your case with evidence, otherwise, it will be clear to all, that you comment is baseless.

a reply to: skyeagle409

You cannot prove your case, and to one in denial like yourself, I cannot prove mine.

The official story is a bloody lie, and only the most gullible individuals still believe that nonsense. No airplanes where there should have been, and damage at WTC that defies the physics required for the story to be true.

a reply to: Salander

You cannot prove your case, and to one in denial like yourself, I cannot prove mine.

Of course I can. It is no secret that fire can weaken steel structures to the point of failure as shown here.

Kader Toy Factory Fire

The building was reinforced with un-insulated steel girders which quickly weakened and collapsed. This part of the building was dedicated to the storage of finished products and the fire spread quickly. Other parts of the factory were full of raw materials which also burnt very fast.

Fire-fighters arrived at the factory at about 4:40pm, to find Building One about to collapse.

The Kader buildings,...collapsed relatively early in the fire because their structural steel supports lacked the fireproofing that would have allowed them to maintain their strength when exposed to high temperatures. A post-fire review of the debris at the Kader site showed no indication that any of the steel members had been fireproofed.

en.wikipedia.org...

Secondly, it has been proven that there were no demolition explosions as the WTC buildings, which explains why demolition explosions were not detected by seismographs nor such evidence found within the WTC rubble. It was not possible for thermite to collapse the buildings either. After all, one half ton of thermite was unable to cut a vehicle in two and add to the fact that no such evidence was ever found in the dust samples of the RJ Lee Group.

The official story is a bloody lie,...

No such evidence has been provided after 14 years, which is underlined by the fact that intelligence warnings flowing in from around the world had warned that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would be responsible for the massive terrorist attack on the United States, not the Bush Administration..

... and only the most gullible individuals still believe that nonsense.

You have yet to provide any evidence that backs your claim.

No airplanes where there should have been,....

Aircraft wreckage shouldn't have been at ground zero, but there was aircraft wreckage there, and aircraft wreckage shouldn't have been inside and outside the Pentagon, but it was aircraft wreckage, and aircraft wreckage shouldn't have been in that field near Shanksville, but there was aircraft wreckage there as well.

The 9/11 hijackers were responsible for the aircraft wreckage at those crash sites, which was underlined by Osama bin Laden's own admission and by those martyr videos of the 9/11 hijackers that were released by al-Qaeda.

If you examine the phenomena of the collapse and the molten steel weeks after that its absolutely clear that this couldn´t be done with explosives of whatever kind.
Much too risky, too.

This just DID NOT HAPPEN. It is NOT what you ACTUALLY see.

The ONLY PHYSICAL explanation for ALL physical phenomena is an underground nuclear demolition device ( Dimitri Khalezof, "third truth") .
NO thermite.

a reply to: anti72

The ONLY PHYSICAL explanation for ALL physical phenomena is an underground nuclear demolition device ( Dimitri Khalezof, "third truth") .
NO thermite.

So an underground nuke causes the building to collapse from the top down?

Besides a nuke going off is not a silent event.
Have you ever heard the saying "I felt the earth move" ?
All of NYC would have felt it.
And yet no one said anything.

Your physics is wrong.
You are wrong.

I don't buy into the nuke event but I would like to know what melted the bedrock, can anyone explain this ?

Now I looked for the photos to link to, and found this , I do not subscribe to this artical , although it is interesting.


yournewswire.com...

a reply to: wildb

I don't buy into the nuke event but I would like to know what melted the bedrock, can anyone explain this ?

Now I looked for the photos to link to, and found this , I do not subscribe to this artical , although it is interesting.

That feature in the photo had nothing to do with anything hot and molten, but is a feature of the Ice Age.

DISNFO: “Melted Granite” caused by a nuclear explosion

Photo 1: Ground Zero Pot Hole

Photo 2: Ground Zero Pot Hole

kendoc911.wordpress.com...


At Ground Zero, Scenes From the Ice Age

A fantastic landscape in Lower Manhattan — plummeting holes, steep cliffsides and soft billows of steel-gray bedrock, punctuated by thousands of beach-smooth cobblestones in a muted rainbow of reds and purples and greens — has basked in sunlight this summer for the first time in millennia.

This monumental carving was the work of glaciers, which made their last retreat from these parts about 20,000 years ago, leaving profound gouges in the earth and rocks from the Palisades, the Ramapo Mountains and an area of northern New Jersey known as the Newark Basin.

www.nytimes.com...


Pictured: The 40ft 'pothole' that shows Ground Zero was once the site of an Ice Age glacier

Proof that Manhattan was once buried underneath an Ice Age glacier has been uncovered at Ground Zero.
Crews excavating the site of the destroyed World Trade Centre this summer have uncovered a spectacular underground landscape carved into the bedrock by glaciers about 20,000 years ago.

www.dailymail.co.uk...


Ice Age geology revealed at Ground Zero

NEW YORK — Crews excavating the World Trade Center site this summer for the foundations of a new skyscraper have uncovered features carved into the bedrock by glaciers about 20,000 years ago, including a 40-foot-deep pothole.

www.nbcnews.com...

a reply to: samkent

You are correct! It is amazing how many people were misled into believing that nukes were detonated in New York City.

a reply to: skyeagle409

I can't find "The Bombshell" in the article. When I read it, it seems to be a puzzle of old news and secret confidences.

Personally, I never thought it was worth going to war over if it were true. He was using them on Kurds, not americans.

originally posted by: wildb
I don't buy into the nuke event but I would like to know what melted the bedrock, can anyone explain this ?

Now I looked for the photos to link to, and found this , I do not subscribe to this artical , although it is interesting.


yournewswire.com...

I agree with Anti72. The only theory that completely explains ALL damage observed, including the epidemiology of those working at GZ, is a nuclear event with small yield nuclear devices.

It is good you question the bedrock. Do you suppose that office fires on the 80th floor could cause that? Are you aware of the testimony of Willy Rodriguez?

The only theory that explains all the damage observed is the nuclear theory.