How screwed are we? , page 2

Originally posted by Divinorumus
reply to post by operation mindcrime

Hey friend, how ya been.

There are alternatives to socialism AND capitalism.

And, fiat money is nothing but unsecured IOUs, essentially credit too. IOUs should not be exchanged for commodities and labor. What we need is a currency with REAL value, one where the face value of that currency IS the value of that currency. Now, gold is not the answer, because mining that stuff reeks havoc upon the ecology, and no nation that may be sitting upon piles of it should benefit from their stroke of luck. I have a number of good alternatives to fiat money and valuable metals, but I won't get into that here.

And, socialism breeds laziness. Who would work a little extra harder to pay their health insurance premiums or to buy food if they didn't really have to because someone else could be mandated and force to subsidize their existence upon Earth? I mean, I'll bet ya there are those out there living on food stamps right now that are sitting at home watch teevee right now, and THAT needs to stop RIGHT NOW! You want to eat, make BETTER use of your time and EARN your keep!!! Imagine, there are those out there right now eating a meal YOU were forced to pay for while they watch the teevee, and THAT ticks me off. They should sell that teevee and use that time to earn their next meal instead of me having to support their irresponsible socialist behavior.

What we really need to do is to eliminate ALL consumer credit (a.k.a. financial irresponsibility). Credit should be used for emergencies, such as when you become unemployed for a while, or you need to have your teeth fixed, etc. Credit should not be used for large screen home entertainment centers and iPods.

People need to be FORCED to live within their means. If you want that large screen teevee, EARN it FIRST. There should be only one solution and way out of poverty: you WORK your way out! Wealth is CREATED. Wealth can't be created by robbing someone else.

Socialism and consumer credit and fiat money leads to financially irresponsibility.

You know what is really funny? Someone who is unemployed or underemployed and complaining about not having enough money ... and all the while they have a cigarette hanging from their mouth, ha. (yeah, I saw someone doing that earlier today)

Why are we looking to things already tried and tested that failed as a solution? We've already seen what happens to people motivation when living the socialist life when the USSR failed because of it. And, we've seen what happens when a capitalist society is built around credit and fiat money.

The solution to all this mess is pretty simply. Remove these irresponsible options that always lead to disaster from the table and you'll have cured what ails our economy and way of life.

I think your post is the best though post that I have read in here and you are exactly correct. My sentiments exactly,,,sabre11004...