Wake up America - Here we go! HR645-Legalizes FEMA Detention Centers

capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian AND other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster

Yup time to panic. health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs. Sounds like a fema death camp to me. Give me a break. You are the ones that need to wake up out of this doom and gloom fantasy you are dreaming is going to happen. It's getting old.

Just thought I would do a quick research project on the guy who introduced the bill Alcee Hastings.

From Wikipedia:

Alcee Lamar Hastings (born September 5, 1936) is a member of the United States House of Representatives representing Florida's 23rd congressional district (map).

A Representative since 1993 and a Democrat, Hastings was previously a lawyer and judge. He spent ten years as a federal judge (1979-1989), but was impeached and removed from office for corruption and perjury. He is only the sixth federal judge to be impeached and removed from office in American history.

Here's a National Review article that tells the whole story behind his bribe taking fiasco...

article.nationalreview.com...

Also from wikipedia:

Congressional career

Hastings was elected to the United States House of Representatives in 1992, representing Florida's 23rd district. After placing second in the initial Democratic primary for the post, he scored an upset victory over State Representative Lois J. Frankel in the runoff and went on to easily win election in the heavily-Democratic district. He did not face a serious election challenge until 2008 when Republicans managed to recruit Marion Thorpe, M.D., recent Chief Medical Officer of the State of Florida, to run against him.

He is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus and was elected President of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe in July 2004. Today, as a Senior Democratic Whip, Hastings is an influential member of the Democratic leadership. Congressman Hastings is also a member of the powerful House Rules Committee and is a senior Member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI). On the HPSCI, Hastings is the Chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

He was one of the 31 who voted in the House not to count the electoral votes from Ohio in the 2004 presidential election.[5]

Links regarding his committees...

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.osce.org...

oscepa.org...

He certainly has links with the intelligence community through the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Also his membership in the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe which boasts on its website: "The OSCE is the world's largest regional security organization whose 56 participating States span the geographical area from Vancouver to Vladivostok."

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Why doesn't it say detention anywhere?

Bit of a misleading title don't you think?



Oh and this isn't breaking news, since it happened over a month ago.

I agree with you chadwickus.. There has been threads on this already, posting the same stuff on the same exact bill..

The FEMA camps are not a bad idea for instances like Katrina where thousands were left without any federal help any some were left without medications, water or food, to just simply die on the street. And some did..

The reason why you should be calling your congressman opposing HR645 is because of this catchall clause in Section 2. its obvious ->

(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

Anyways,
cheers, got to get to work,
Ryan

I contacted my state's representative about this about a month ago... It seems to me like this is one of those things that is going to pass whether we voice our opinions or not...

Worrying, although nothing conclusive. However, if this was true they would hardly state "to be used to detain population once NWO takes over the world" now would they Of course they would use language that skirted around the "real" reason.....and they've probably even used some locations that aren't ready to go yet as well - doesn't mean they can't be made ready.

Really, I think it's right to be very worried about the implications of this bill, and some of these facilities need to be investigated for sure. I just don't think it's time for flat-out panic just yet though......it could all just be over-planning after the Katrina experience. In other words, something in between "stock up on ammo and supplies!!!!!" and "they're just totally harmless facilities in case of emergencies"

If you see huge peanut butter containers in the cafeterias of these places, then you should start to worry.

reply to post by ryanlv


In this great country of the United States and they could not even get water to the people in the Kattrina disaster.

That's like when on 9/11 it took what 40 minutes to scramble the fighter jets, it should have been 4 minutes, all lies.

Once things go bad in the FEMA camps, like things are now, they will say when they pull out the 50 cal. ok boys it's all we can do we have to save ourselves.

I am not a Doomist, I am a Realist

You should get the posts sent to G. Noory by PC. Best in the west for free. (NWO is beaten, needs to surrender)

reply to post by kettlebellysmith


"I also doubt the rest of the bases are being used as FEMA camps as well, all though Fort Chaffee was used for some of the refugees from Katrina."

If they plan on using Fort Chaffee (this is where Elvis Presley joined the Army, btw) as a detention center, they had better get cracking. If you remember, that base literally burned to the ground last year. Well, most of it did, anyhow.

I doubt we'll be seeing Chaffee used for much of anything any time soon.

And please people, for the love of everything holy, THINK about what you are saying when you say that the US will just have the Canadians come in and mop up their dirty work...
Not to knock Canada because you can put ANY organization in this blank.
It cannot be done. Blackwater can't do it, nor any other group of mercenaries or "security forces" or whatever. Not only can Canada not do it, but I don't believe even the US military could do it if they WANTED TO.

There is literally a gun available for anyone that wants one in this country.

America has NEVER HAD a large-scale military attack on her soil, aside from the Revolutionary and Civil war, that is.

Why not? Because NOBODY is that stupid. The US is the LARGEST untrained Army in the world and the day that someone tries to pull something like this here, they are in for a world of hurt. All that apathy would go out the window and people would fight like hell. America is a VERY proud country.

The "insurgency" we are seeing in the Middle-East would pale in comparison to the HELL brought by the American Citizenry.

I damn sure wouldn't want to be in command of such a foolish endeavor.

reply to post by F.A.Williams


Has this been updated? There was a previous ATS and YT posts on this.

Govtracks is shut down. Opencongress has it but it appears that it is the original bill as introduced and sent to committee.

I did a video on YT:

www.youtube.com...

THere are various links in the description, I'd suggest looking at the following for an analysis By Lee Rogers

www.roguegovernment.com...

Let me know if this is the same or if it's been updated.

Thanks.

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


I completely agree with you on the idea that no force, internal or external can come in and just take over and enforce anything.

However, what most people fail to see is that this is not an outright takeover or attack by an external or governmental force. There will be a national event, whether its nuclear or biological or other remains to be seen. This event or events will cause the fractioning of the country and therefore, people will ask the government to step in and provide help (ala Katrina) only to find out that the National Guard or Blackwater or whoever will be all to happy to come in and help.

Part of that help will be containment of any contaminated hordes of people inside an area, city etc. Those that refuse or those that cause civil unrest will be placed in the camps.

International support will be provided (again ALA Katrina, remember Mexican troops, and other countries providing help) And let's not forget Blackwater. Blackwater was is N.O. WAY before FEMA when they didn't even have a contract with the FED Gov.

The people in the devastated areas will be too distracted to notice the sheer number of troops, and will be even less aware that some of them are UN or foreign troops. Many won't care.

That's how it will happen. People in panic or in the midst of a disaster will be too busy, hurt or disoriented to notice.

IMHO.

no fewer than 6 emergency centers and

no definition of the term "appropriate"
and no fewer than 1 in each of the 10 regions.

to reitterate;

no fewer than 6
no fewer than 10

And homland security deems "appropriate without definition.

Thats enough problems right there.

and they're off.....

[edit on 5-3-2009 by imd12c4funn]

abosultely horriffic or terriffic
the lack of definitions is disturbing.
has this been passed already?

Originally posted by AceOfAces
Who is going to institute putting people in these camps if martial law does take place? I don't picture our own soldiers going against the grain of the people so the government can put people in cages.

Do the local police have any problem arresting their own citizens? Nope!
So I don't see any problem with the military or ANY other enforcement agency upholding the law if that is what they believe they are doing.

[edit on 5-3-2009 by Muundoggie]

some of the posters believe the soldiers wont help round up people,from what i've seen,the type of people that become police,soldiers and screws will have the time of their lives,if a soldier can kill woman, children and even men in any country,i dont think they'd have a second thought doing what they were ordered to do, plus there are things that could happen to them if they do not follow orders in a state of war,even if its a war against the people.i think these places could even be used to hold people they arrest on the streets if there are riots in the future over no jobs,food shortages and lose of the constitution.

reply to post by Muundoggie


The military folks know that the wars they are fighting are bogus.
You'll never hear them actually admit to that, though. They wouldn't dare proclaim that they are an accomplise to what amounts to Treason on an International scale.

Point being, they wouldn't take it far enough to throw lead at fellow citizens. They would revolt against their leadership.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

ok, here's another vantage point...
I will bey CIA< congress, governemnt, Homeland secuirty reads this website.. I mean afterall, bush's wrietapping ha been verified as happenening, im sure they wouldnt leave the internout ouf of survielance..
SO! Assuming they have lokoed at all taht we talk abuot here, FEMA being nazi camps, admitting they were at fualt during Katrina, (which they didnt), then why dosnt the governemnt come forward on national tv, and say to us all here, across the continental united states... thier IS no nai dath camp, these FEAM camps are for such and such...u dont, because anything done without yuor knowing of it, is call me old fashioned here sneaky, aka pulling the rug out from under you. I rest my case on this matter.

now I'm gonna have nightmares...

edit: All I hope is that I'm not around for when they come to round us up. If I am then I am gonna run. I can survive off food left in houses

edit: Or I hope that Juneau won't require a FEMA camp
[edit on 3/6/09 by MoothyKnight]

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