Iran is no Gaza , Isreal will lose

Iran does not want war with Isreal ,or any country for that matter, but they see what has occured in Iraq and now Afgan.

If you were in a country like Iran and seen the propaganda machines at work , you would be preparing to defend yourself as well. Iran was helping Hamas because they are the only country that sees the truth going on there , Isreal is a Imperilist country seeking only to obtain Gaza as its own.

Make no mistake, if called upon Iran will defend itself and this offensive by Isreal will not be a slaughtering of undefended this time, Iran will crush Isreal and I hope they do.

This video of Pres of Iran shows his intentions, not the edited versions US msm have propaganded.

Do let another 1.3 million people die for a lie. Nice vid , 3 min on shows his meaning.

Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!

Why the heck would US want another war, let the Isrealis fight their own battles.

Originally posted by Electricgypsy
Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!

And Iraq was "crushed" as you so nicely put it illegally. Is it so easy to say we must destroy another country,culture,society ? What exactly has Iran done for you to think they should be destroyed?

What can you do when your being victimised by the big bullies, that have all the propganda on there side. Russia are in the same boat, totally surrounded by ameirica now, and obama going, that they are no threat to russia, utter bull.

they should show a map of the area around russia to the dumbed down americans, to show them you have totally surrounded russia, and the people of america still believe obama, lol.

Same with iran. Its similar to the big bully at school who is popular, and can organise any conspiracy they want against anyone they do not like. The victim, has no chance, but society is built that way.

I have come to the conclusion that there is no real thing as good and evil, there are just things called scum, which are humans, and it describes all people, and we are all such a waste of time. Maybe thats why they call dogs, mans best friends, becuse it sure isn't another human, lol. Just look at how they treat people in this society.

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Sorry, but I have to laugh at this one.

Now that's out of my system.

Yeah, they have some more tech and maybe some more hardened troops that won't turn in the face of the free world, but they're just like the others. They will fall.

The US should stay out of this one. Israel has more than enough technology and people to go in there and wipe some crap out. The US/NATO should slap down any of the others who move in and try to attack Israel from behind while they're at war.

IMHO.

I can see that the next decade will be ALLOT like the 1960s. A large number of people wanting to spread America Imperial, and ALLOT of others wanting peace and love.

Both, in it's extreme, are ridiculous.

We've had a good run in the middle east and on China and Russia's border for awhile.

Let's wrap this up and bring it home.

Put afew troops on the Mexican border to give the drug cartels something to think about before they cross over again to sell more drugs to people like Bush and Obama and everybody else stupid enough to snort coke.

I wish DC cared about the people that elected them as much as they care about making a million dollars a year and then some.

:/

All this sabre rattling is going to leave someone with a bloody nose.

The USA and Israel give every evil dictator a reason to persist. The illegal actions of both countries undermine international law repeatedly. Covert operations, spying, funding 'terrorists', mass killings, assasinations, you name it the US/Israel have done it.

What example have they set? Will the people carry on believing government lies or will they have to add more and more false flags to increase our enemies (in a conveniently oil related manner of course LOL).

Iran has been very dignified throughout all this and I would go as far as to say I trust them more than our own Military Industrial Complex.

[edit on 5-3-2009 by BigC2012]

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Israel is surrounded by enemies and Iran's known and suspected allies have our troops deadlocked in that region. We would be on our own and with the deployment spread in that region now it would fail. The only option would be to risk mass casualties with WMDs. Either way it really would be a suicide mission. I have family deployed in that region and I really would prefer we withdraw support for this scheme.

Its just a carbon copy scenario of the Iraq situation. They (Iraq/Iran) come away from the $$, and all of a sudden they are a threat when previously they were friends. They then get sanctions put on them to try to weaken their economy and weaken the people and weaken the government. Then they say they have weapons of mass destruction as a pretence to invading. It makes me sick.

WOW!

Ahmedinejad doesn't sound like any politician I know!

He really seems like an honest person asking for nothing but for the PEOPLE of the world to untie. Regardless of colour, religion, nationality or whatever.

Compare that with the mindless saber rattling perpetuated by the UK and US political fronts.

Awesome!

Now I know why we NEVER hear\understand his speeches on mainstream media!

Thanks for posting.

P.S. Seriously...again another misleading thread title though...

[edit on 5-3-2009 by Jinni]

Originally posted by mf_luder
reply to post by branty

 

Sorry, but I have to laugh at this one.

Now that's out of my system.

Yeah, they have some more tech and maybe some more hardened troops that won't turn in the face of the free world, but they're just like the others. They will fall.

The US should stay out of this one. Israel has more than enough technology and people to go in there and wipe some crap out. The US/NATO should slap down any of the others who move in and try to attack Israel from behind while they're at war.

IMHO.

Iran, China and Russia have just signed a treaty to cover each others backs...Iran has their backup too.

My feelings on the matter are this, Isreal's military might is bought and payed for by us in the U.S. and they could set back Iran 200 years in about 30 days if the gloves come off. Isreal will wait till they feel they have no choice or until they are attacked directly or by Iran's payed for militia's.


For the most part the Iranian people are like most people of the world, just want to live and be free. Unfortunately easy going moderates are always controlled by aggressive radicals in this part of the world and they want world war to start so they can bring about the return of their savior and are willing to do whatever it takes at the expense of their own peoples lives. Make no mistake about it the single biggest threat in our lifetime is the radical islamic clerics who are in power and have the money and access to weapons capable of pushing the world into what they beleive will bring about the return of their saviour.


Anyone willing to do a tiny amount of research who comes to the conclusion that the Iranian leadership (not the people) is just being villified by Isreal and the west is well,.....wrong.

wnd.com...

I hope the imperialist west does invade Iran. The more the zionist tighten their grip, the more everything will slip between their fingers like sand. And to all the arrogant Americans that think they won't pay the price, I tell you a place is being prepared for you, right in your midst, and the most delicious thing is, you're practically screaming for it.

Meanwhile, what Israel did to the Palestinians, the Mexicans are doing to you. Do you like seeing your taxes going towards birthing anchor babies? Do you like seeing 5 Mexicans standing around while 1 works to build your infrastructure while your own unemployment grows?

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[edit on 6-3-2009 by TheBorg]

Israeli strike on Iranian soil will start a war and a lot of people would die. This is the first sure thing. And both sides can only loose - this is another sure thing. Who will loose less, is a big question.

Originally posted by American_Soviets

And to all the arrogant Americans that think they won't pay the price, I tell you a place is being prepared for you, right in your midst, and the most delicious thing is, you're practically screaming for it.

As an arrogant American, it's b.s. like this that makes peace talks nearly impossible. Why even bother with people like you who have attitudes like this? Do you have a point other than to spread hatred in a world that is already overly saturated with it? Do you think you have actually accomplished something positive with your juvenile tirade?

Now STFU and keep dying for apostate Israel, you toadies.

To futher point out what I said above!

No I'm afraid I won't shut up. Calling people who disagree with you toadies isn't really a way to bringing them around to your way of thinking either.

On to the topic:

First off, a war between Iran and Israel is unlikely. They share no common border, to get at each other, they need to overfly at least two other nations who probably won't appriciate that in the least.

Israel will defend itself proactively, as it has every right to do. I may not like it, but they have the right to defend themselves as they, the Israeli's, see fit. Without recourse to anyone...

I freely admit to being something of an Israeli partisan, so sue me... If Iran wants to push a confrontation, they'll be the latest in a long line of people since '46-'47 to learn the hard way, don't mess with the Jews.

Originally posted by seagull
...don't mess with the Jews.

How mature...

Actually, if the state of Israel acted like proper 'Jews' these problems wouldn't be happening!

See here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I saw a Rabbi on national TV declare that to be a Jew you don't have to follow any of the teachings. Just believe and support Israel that's all!

Acutally, it is the current MASONIC-occult-pagan philosophy who like to make it a 'Jew' issue just so they instil hate and hope they kill each other.

Are you aware of that? Probably yes.

Originally posted by Electricgypsy
Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!

Pfft get real.

Your troops are still being sent home in bodybags. No offence, but that's the harsh truth. Pull your head out of the dark place and realise that you are not invincible and you do not need another war.

Edit: typo

[edit on 5-3-2009 by mr-lizard]

Originally posted by seagull
No I'm afraid I won't shut up. Calling people who disagree with you toadies isn't really a way to bringing them around to your way of thinking either.

On to the topic:

First off, a war between Iran and Israel is unlikely. They share no common border, to get at each other, they need to overfly at least two other nations who probably won't appriciate that in the least.

Israel will defend itself proactively, as it has every right to do. I may not like it, but they have the right to defend themselves as they, the Israeli's, see fit. Without recourse to anyone...

I freely admit to being something of an Israeli partisan, so sue me... If Iran wants to push a confrontation, they'll be the latest in a long line of people since '46-'47 to learn the hard way, don't mess with the Jews.

But in the video the Iranian president clearly states he wants peace but would defend themselves...and of course they have every right to do that. They are not pushing a confrontation at all.
As far as I can see it is Israel that is asking for a push on Iran so it is the other way around.