Rush to the President: Debate Me

Originally posted by CT_Flyboy
Why would anyone even give the self-admitted DRUG ADDICT the time of day.

It's because Rush is trying to be fair. He's even willing to allow our self-admitted DRUG ADDICT President all the air time he wants to discuss the issues.

I can't believe that anyone (even Rush) could or would have such EXTREMIST views either way in real life.

Which "EXTREMIST' views would those be? Freedom? Liberty? Small government? Low taxes?

An interesting and frankly entertaining event it would be...however it just won't happen.

Michael Steele heads up the RNC and has himself "apologized" to Rush for some rather unflattering comments made recently. Steele dismissed Limbaugh as an “entertainer” whose show is “incendiary” and “ugly.”

This after Obama's own Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, was asked by CBS Who represented the Republican Party? He answered, it was Limbaugh.
Just another effort to drive the stake deeper in an already embattled party? Perhaps...

Regardless, the President would have nothing to gain, and everything to lose by engaging in a "debate" with Limbaugh. And quite frankly shouldn't have to!

Now that being said, should Limbaugh decide to run for and win the Repub. nomination in 2012 then...all bets are off. But...why would he take such a dramatic pay cut...

This would make one helluva Pay Per View event.

They could even use the proceeds to buy windmills to provide clean energy or something

Ron Paul is the real voice of conservatives and should be the ONLY choice for the Republican party....he's the only REAL CONSERVATIVE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Instead they will elect another GD liar and fraud who only PRETENDS to be Conservative.

The Republicans are only "Conservative" when compared to "Liberals." Republican are really NOT conservative.

The Republican party is a failure.

If people are putting hopes into the Republican party to fix things it won't happen because they are following the same path...the wrong one.

Rush Limbaugh is not a real Conservative either.

A real conservative ABIDES BY THE CONSTITUTION.

Damnit get it RIGHT YOU FREAKING MORONS!

If it wasn't for REpublicans we wouldn't have this crazy ass administration in office right now!

This is ALL REPUBLICANS fault. ALL OF IT.

I don't care who did what to start the financial crisis. The Republicans complete and total failure to actually be CONSERVATIVE has given us the most liberal, socialistic administration and Congress IN HISTORY.

What the hell is wrong with you guys.

Don't call yourself a Conservative if you really aren't one.

Just call yourself a moderate liberal.

People blindly supported the last administration regardless of what happened and look at where it got us?!?!?

Originally posted by volafox
Rush is one to talk from the sidelines but never in the ring. He could run for office just like anyone, if he thinks he can do better, then let him step up.

And what offices/how many times have you run for office? You are not just one of those "one to talk from the sidelines but never in the ring"...are you?

As for this debate nonsense, he's only calling out our President because he knows nothing will happen. Its like teasing the junkyard dog that the kids know is behind the fence... but one day that gate will be open, and then the real fun will begin!

Oh, really? Please explain!

Personally, I rather not give my opinion of Rush, but he makes me glad I voted for Obama. In his coloring book, I'm the evil feminazi.

Are you now? Rush has said the term refers to "a feminist to whom the most important thing in life is ensuring that as many abortions as possible occur", and that there are fewer than 25 known feminists.

You are one of those? Really?

Originally posted by Angus123

Originally posted by GLDNGUN

Originally posted by branty
Rush is a cartoon character, Do what he wants and Laugh at him.

So Obama's grand political strategy is to take on a "cartoon character"? LOL Ok, that says a LOT about Obama, doesn't it?

Obama hasn't engaged Limbaugh at all. Limbaugh is just claiming that the White House is behind all the media attention he's been getting.

Obama's adminstration has certainly "engaged" Limbaugh. They have gone out of their way to mention him by name. Did you know that Rahm Emmanual is the President's Chief of Staff? Did you know that Gibbs is the President's spokesman to the press? Did you know that they both keep "engaging" rush? Get some facts straight.

Your other comments are such a twisting of the truth as to be unworthy of a response.

And if everyone looked at history...they would see Republicans and Democrats at the very core of this problem..For they have been the leading parties...better...the ONLY parties.. there for they ARE the problem! Period! Point blank. Every policy they have gotten together and hacked up has put this country right where it is today and if you voted for these "2" choices then you hold the stain of this as well. Rush isn't going to fix any thing with a "debate" nor is a "new hope" these political parties are 2 sides to the same coin and they are a smoke screen for a outta control government that grows and grows and will consume EVERY industry in the country and if applicable the globe. Wake up...

Originally posted by arizonascott
reply to post by GLDNGUN

 

Now comes the GOP phase where they play the roll of false patriots and civil saviors. Rush, Hannity and all the others are now pointing out what we conspiracy theorists (your name for us) have been saying for over 8 years. And it has nothing to do with either parties, it has to do with the foreign influence of Globalist agendas. They just waited for Democrats to force the issue into the open and point out the coming Global Security Control Grid and the Socialism. They are all part of the game and you sheep fall for it everytime decade after decade and term after term.

Please! These things were put in place long ago by all those who came before. Now we are seeing the larger steps towards the edge of Americas end and the weight and loss of freedom falls on the people of this Nation who have forgotten what this Nation stands for and why the Constitution was created.

So don't put your mouthpieces up on a golden throne, because they were warned this has been coming by Congressmen like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich for a long long long time!

The GOP hasn't known true Capitalism and Conservatism since Barry Goldwater!

"Those who ignore history, are destined to repeat it!"

Seik Hiel

Rush, don't make me puke!

[edit on 4-3-2009 by arizonascott]

Funny.

Some of you think Rush is SOOOOO conservative that he is an "extremist!"

Others of you say he is not conservative at all.

Like I said. Funny.

Originally posted by GLDNGUN

Originally posted by CT_Flyboy
Why would anyone even give the self-admitted DRUG ADDICT the time of day.

It's because Rush is trying to be fair. He's even willing to allow our self-admitted DRUG ADDICT President all the air time he wants to discuss the issues.

I can't believe that anyone (even Rush) could or would have such EXTREMIST views either way in real life.

Which "EXTREMIST' views would those be? Freedom? Liberty? Small government? Low taxes?

Ya Rush's boy BUSH and REAGAN did a heck of a job with Small government? Low taxes ( for billionaires :lol

Freedom? Liberty? - LIKE PAYING FOR IRAQS FREEDOM AND LIBERTY???

Im waiting for Obama's Response if there even will be one. I highly doubt that Obama's handlers will let him go any where near Rush. This is a great thing here, Rush, A major player is calling Obama out. I love it.

reply to post by mental modulator


All politics aside, wouldn't even you like to see Obama and Rush go at it in front of a public audience and get this pettiness behind them?

Originally posted by David9176
Ron Paul is the real voice of conservatives and should be the ONLY choice for the Republican party....he's the only REAL CONSERVATIVE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Instead they will elect another GD liar and fraud who only PRETENDS to be Conservative.

The Republicans are only "Conservative" when compared to "Liberals." Republican are really NOT conservative.

The Republican party is a failure.

If people are putting hopes into the Republican party to fix things it won't happen because they are following the same path...the wrong one.

Rush Limbaugh is not a real Conservative either.

A real conservative ABIDES BY THE CONSTITUTION.

Damnit get it RIGHT YOU FREAKING MORONS!

If it wasn't for REpublicans we wouldn't have this crazy ass administration in office right now!

This is ALL REPUBLICANS fault. ALL OF IT.

I don't care who did what to start the financial crisis. The Republicans complete and total failure to actually be CONSERVATIVE has given us the most liberal, socialistic administration and Congress IN HISTORY.

What the hell is wrong with you guys.

Don't call yourself a Conservative if you really aren't one.

Just call yourself a moderate liberal.

People blindly supported the last administration regardless of what happened and look at where it got us?!?!?

So what you are saying is that Rush isn't even close to being REAL conservative, right?

Yet, people demonize him and call him an "extremist" because they accuse him of being sooooo conservative.

Now if a "moderate liberal" doesn't have a chance because he's labeled an "extremist conservative", what chance does a "real conservative" have?

Just goes to show how screwed up things are.

I'm a bit amazed that anyone is amazed at this. It was just a matter of time, after all.

What we are seeing is a huge chess game, overseen and orchestrated by those truly in power: the money magnates who now control the business world. The players are the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. The stakes are the people not in one of the three groups mentioned above: us.

The motive of the Democratic Party is pure socialism, where the government allows capitalistic pursuits under a tightly controlled and strictly enforced system of legalized kickbacks and bribes. The workers in this monopolized society will be well controlled via programs that force businesses employing them to provide for their every need. There will be no small businesses, only major conglomerates who can afford to absorb the costs of providing more and more benefits and can hire people who are able (with inside contacts) to navigate the maze of red tape erected by the Federal government.

On the other side of the table is the Republican Party, whose chief motive is to ensure a system of government controlled by capitalistic forces rather than the other way around. In this system, those who are already wealthy will be supported by the government via control of the masses through financial manipulation. Programs will be administered by the government to allow the masses to survive, as opposed to through businesses themselves.

In both systems, those who are not in power will no longer be allowed to climb the social ladder, thereby preventing any threat to those who are already on the top rungs. To those of us who are not independently wealthy already, and who are thereby considered part of the 'unwashed masses', there is really no difference in our fate.

For forty years, the Democratic Party used racist anger and manipulation of the media in order to press their agenda forward. It ended when Jimmy Carter failed as President and Ronald Reagan succeeded. The Republicans were quick to capitalize on this failure and for a short while managed to work on their agenda. George H. W. Bush allowed a dirty trick to sideline this resurgent in the party when he made a blunder with his "Read my lips: no new taxes" comment. He was subsequently tricked into allowing a small tax increase in a deal between a Democratic Congress (using the Federal budget as the noose) to lessen a proposed huge tax increase. The result was a smear campaign against him that was effectively used to turn the tide of public opinion toward the Democratic Party and get Bill Clinton elected President in 1992.

The fight was not yet over, however, as the Republicans had used their time in Congress along with the "Contract with America" headlined by Newt Gingrich to build a base among the American people. That allowed some Republican influence in the Congress during Clinton's Presidency to block the agenda of the Democratic Party. It also allowed George W. Bush to become President in 2000. Since the power of the Republican Party was unsure after Bush's second term, the Republican Party went full throttle in implementing policies and laws to strengthen their agenda, primarily with the excuse of National Security.

Now their power has indeed been nullified for the most part. But in order to undo what has been done and to further the goal of the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party must now capitalize on the recent election results before the tide of public opinion turns against them as well. That is why Obama is reviewing all the Executive Orders from the previous 8 years; he will negate those which can not be used for his party's agenda and keep those which can. The Patriot Act helps both parties, and therefore will stand.

But beyond that, the surest way to ensure continued power is to destroy the competition. There is still a large Republican base in this country, albeit a disillusioned one. One of the primary tools used to get the messages of the Republican Party out to the masses in the past has been talk radio. Celebrities such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and others have used their influence and their multi-million-watt radio waves to reach audiences nationwide, while the Democratic Party's attempts (Air America, for instance) have gone bust. The reasons for this go directly to the heart of the differences between the parties; the Republican Party is based on capitalistic pursuits and therefore know how to make a venture successful, while the Democratic Party relies more on legal restrictions and therefore has a hard time competing in a free market arena.

The head of this talk radio phenomenon has been rush Limbaugh. He was the first successful pundit to turn the public's attention away from the Democratic Party's promises of a nanny state and toward the Republican Party's promises of a free-enterprise market. As more and more hosts tried to emulate him, each in turn has been forced (I assume financially, although I would not be shocked to find that threats of violence were also used) to tow the party line and assist with the attempts to gain power in order to further the Republican Party's cause. As the leader of the talk radio phenomenon, Rush is a primary target that now, while the American people are disillusioned, must be taken out of the picture. The final purpose is to re-introduce the "Fairness Doctrine" which will kill talk radio as an institution once and for all (like most government projects, it is named the opposite of its intent). This wikll secure the information and opinions that are available to the public, since it has already been proven that the media can be controlled. As long as Rush, Sean, Glenn, Neil, and Michael are able to spin the issues to the American public, the "Fairness Doctrine" will be a hard pill for the American people to swallow.

I should also mention that the next target once talk radio is safely being moved out of the way, will be an earnest attempt to kill the freedom of the Internet. I believe the old time-tested cry of "Save the children" will be one of the tools used to sway public opinion. Actually, this is already in the works, evidenced by the many stories about stalking and abuse by Internet 'thugs' as well as the many viruses that are being developed (you really don't think some of these recent sophisticated viruses were created by some 12 y/o kid in his basement, do you?).

It may be true that Obama just made a serious blunder and allowed himself to be trapped by Rush. I personally do not believe the DNC nor Obama is dense enough to have done this. I rather believe they are setting Rush up for a fall, all the while allowing him to believe he has cornered the head of the Democratic Party. The easiest opponent to defeat is the one who believes they have already won.

We do not see everything that goes on inside Iraq. We do not see everything that goes on inside Afghanistan. We do not see the moves that are being made to further the Patriot Act. We do not see the financial forces at work to manipulate our lives. There is more to this story than meets the eye as well.

Oh, and yes Unit541... I agree, Rush is a big idiot.

TheRedneck

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by neo67

 

Obama pushed for a stimulus package worth $800 billion to solve the economic crises. Get your facts straight.

Now are you going to vote for Rush as nominee?

pretty convient u rounded it down and didnt include interest
pretty convient u didnt include the 634 billion for univiersal health care which doesnt include interest
pretty convient you didnt include the 480 billion omnibus bill which doesnt include interest
pretty convient you didnt ackowledge the fact of who was in control of
congress those last 2 years
pretty convient you didnt include what geinther said hes needs as "stimulus"

my quote stand facts straight

Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by GLDNGUN

Originally posted by CT_Flyboy
Why would anyone even give the self-admitted DRUG ADDICT the time of day.

It's because Rush is trying to be fair. He's even willing to allow our self-admitted DRUG ADDICT President all the air time he wants to discuss the issues.

I can't believe that anyone (even Rush) could or would have such EXTREMIST views either way in real life.

Which "EXTREMIST' views would those be? Freedom? Liberty? Small government? Low taxes?

Ya Rush's boy BUSH and REAGAN did a heck of a job with Small government? Low taxes ( for billionaires :lol

Freedom? Liberty? - LIKE PAYING FOR IRAQS FREEDOM AND LIBERTY???

If you actually listened to Rush, you would know that he is very critical of ANY republican who willfully increases the size of government. That includes BOTH Bushes. And what happens every time somebody tries to cut some government program? All of the whiners come out of the woodwork, the press goes nuts making it look like the "evil" conservatives want everyone to starve and be homeless.

And Rush wants taxes low for everyone. It just so happens that the tax rates are highest on the richest (which is idiotic), so when it comes time for a tax cut, guess who should get their taxes cut? People who aren't even paying taxes are getting a "tax cut" under Obama's plan. How can you give a "tax cut" to someone not paying taxes? You can't! It's called "welfare".

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by mental modulator

 

All politics aside, wouldn't even you like to see Obama and Rush go at it in front of a public audience and get this pettiness behind them?

I already said I would -

lets do it!

Rush Limbaugh got caught with Viagra at an airport. What country had he come back from? One known for child prostitution. Now, why would he need vigra in a country known for child prostitution? Hmm, yeah, I'm really gonna listen to this bonehead.

this is why david letterman makes fun of rush and liberals hate him

4 million people listen to him every quarter hour 20 million people per week

he makes over $400 million dollars


dave is jealous cause more people listen to rush than watch him plus he makes more than dave

popwatch.ew.com...

[edit on 4-3-2009 by neo67]

[edit on 4-3-2009 by neo67]

Rush is a rude, loud, crass windbag. He is the old Geraldo Rivera of politics. Obama would never in a million years go on his show.

Rush of course knows this, and wins a throw, since he can make the challange knowing full well it won't be met. Clever and scumbaggy, and I would expect no less from Rush.

Mind you, Rush is one knowledgable fellow. Pity he can't help but be a rabid, hateful windbag at the same time.

[edit on 4-3-2009 by fleabit]