Which Human being has caused the most deaths?

I think it would be americans, as they support leaders that led them to war due to messing with other's business.

Well, all i can is: Mind Your Own Business and not using peace keeping to gain something out of war itself!!!

Out of all these years, how much war have US caused??? How long does it takes for these countries to recover??? How much death had occured due to it? Are americans sure they won any of the war at all??? (maybe they have won for the time being, but time will tell you the other side of the story.)

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As far as I understand old man Kissinger is still quite active with many NGO's and has acted as advisory to several administration .

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because the creator of the thread wanted it to be about in the 30 years , more recent history , perhaps your can create one of you own

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In the past 30 years?


Kim Jong Il, leader of North Korea

Between 1995 and 1998, possibly up to 3 million people perished in the famine in North Korea.

Again up to 3 million.

These guys and their lobbyists have to be right up there...



IRM

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Yeah, your wrong.

Most of those listed aren't capitalists. Any the Grand Daddy killer of them all, a socialist, Mr Stalin is too old to be included.

If not Mao Zhe-Dong then maybe the man behind the curtain running the health-care industry. Iatrogenic fatality is one of the greatest unnatural causes of death in the industrialized world.

reply to post by Xeven
My money is on the Bush's both Senior and Junior.

This family has been behind more human misery than almost any other.

In Thanks for the Memories by Brice Taylor she said that in private conversation Bush Sr admitted to her he was not fully human. If just 1% of this lady's book holds any truth we as a species are in deep shi*.

"The Voice"

I hear your voice on the wind
And I hear you call out my name

"Listen, my child," you say to me
"I am the voice of your history
Be not afraid, come follow me
Answer my call, and I'll set you free"

I am the voice in the wind and the pouring rain
I am the voice of your hunger and pain
I am the voice that always is calling you
I am the voice, I will remain

I am the voice in the fields when the summer's gone
The dance of the leaves when the autumn winds blow
Ne'er do I sleep thoughout all the cold winter long
I am the force that in springtime will grow

I am the voice of the past that will always be
Filled with my sorrow and blood in my fields
I am the voice of the future, bring me your peace
Bring me your peace, and my wounds, they will heal

I am the voice in the wind and the pouring rain
I am the voice of your hunger and pain
I am the voice that always is calling you
I am the voice

I am the voice of the past that will always be
I am the voice of your hunger and pain
I am the voice of the future
I am the voice, I am the voice
I am the voice, I am the voice

Don't agree with your premise. For my money these people are not in control just puppets. They world for the same higher ups so the answer is the NWO/Illuminiati/Vatican/Zionists.

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How many people have died due to drugs in America?

It's rumored that the Bush Dynasty has been involved in this area for many years.

from: www.encyclopedia.com...

Sunday, October 19, 2003 -- WASHINGTON - US President George W. Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the US government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.

Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp., a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently ...

BUSH & BLAIR: How many people has the phony manufactured war on terrorism killed & continues to kill.

I vote for Rachael Carson - author of the book "silent Spring" that resulted in the ban against DDT because the pesticide was supposedly causing "thin" egg shells and decimating the bird population.

Since the banning of DDT, 50 million (mostly woman and children) have died of malaria in underdeveloped countries. It is noted that DDT was not banned until after malaria was wiped out in developed countries.

spectator.org...

But hey Rachael Carson made a fortune from her book so it was all worthwhile.

To the poster who pointed to the tobacco companies as causing the most deaths. The case against tobacco is based on epidimiology (observational studies and not hard science). There is no way to take a specific incidence of a disease (like say lung cancer) and with a biopsy or some other such laboratory test, determine what the specific cause of the disease was. There are over 40 known causes of lung cancer and the tumor cells are look exactly identical. There is not one documented case of a death because caused by tobacco.

All cases of death and disease ascribed to lung cancer are theoretical.

I think the original poster was looking for deaths where there is an actual body - not a theoretical statistic.

Originally posted by greenfruit
Pope John Paul II,
any other pope in last 30 yrs

Why, his policy on contraception thus leading to over population in countries, Thus being unable to feed themselves. Thus DEATH

Total = unknown but 10's of thousands die every day.

I walked into a conveinence store the other day, and I swore that I saw some condoms for sale....legally! How can this be if the Pope is against it?

How exactly does the Pope stop people from using contraception? How many of these people are actually Catholic in the first place?

Who is the biggest killer of all? You and me because we allowed these people to get away with it. That is the unpleasant truth we must face. For example why is Robert Mugabue still in power? he should have been sorted out ages ago, but nope he is still there and is about to sieze the last remaining farms. Is anyone doing anything to stop him? No !

If you want the world to change than it is up to YOU to stand up and say no !

Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss

Who is the biggest killer of all? You and me because we allowed these people to get away with it. That is the unpleasant truth we must face. For example why is Robert Mugabe still in power? he should have been sorted out ages ago, but nope he is still there and is about to sieze the last remaining farms. Is anyone doing anything to stop him? No !

If you want the world to change than it is up to YOU to stand up and say no !

Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, was known as the breadbasket of Africa. Tens of millions were fed by their agricultural produce. Mugabe killed or ran off white farmers, the only ones in the country who knew how to cultivate and bring a full crop to harvest. He handed the farms to his cronies who have no clue and are unwilling to learn.

Millions have unnecessarily starved in and outside of Zimbabwe.

Someone on ATS will jump in and blame colonialism or the other paranoia usual suspects. Sorry folks, no Bush, CIA, no Zionists, no NWO, no UFOs.

It comes down to the greed, egomania. corruption, ignorance of someone who presented himself as a revolutionary and champion of freedom.


Mike F

Originally posted by Alienmojo

Originally posted by weedwhacker
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regardless.....Jesus Christ still trumps his ass!!!

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you a bit here brother, but are you saying JC killed people? Ummm... nope. You can say his followers might have, but JC never harmed anyone. He never, ever, suggested killing as an answer... unlike other religious leaders have.

Actually, the fairy tale story of "Jesus Christ" says that he killed 6 people out of rage.


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You sick fecking fools.
All of you sick demented fools.

Originally posted by BlackOpsAgent9

Originally posted by Clearskies
Trotsky had more to do with the deaths in Russia than Stalin.
His real name was Lev Bronstein!

It's kind of funny, in a way. Hitler was known for killing Jews and that's why everyone hates Hitler, yet Trotsky and Stalin who killed even more people than Hitler, were Jewish. LOL. (Bronstein is a Jewish name, and Stalin's birth name was Jughashvili until he changed it to Stalin. Stalin is Russian for "Steel". It's unknown if Stalin was Jewish or not, but all 3 of his wives that he had were Jewish and he also had a love-affair with a jewish woman).


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Not everybody, just the Zionists. Don't let the media fool you.

Originally posted by BorgHoffen
Mao Zedong only around 186,000 early on from murder and torture.
Then perhaps after his whole time reigning, there was starvation of say 20 million.
But many say its more like 70 million, but there is no evidence of that.Its more than likely around 20-30 million but from starvation.
Stalin about 800,000/1.5 million murders.
Pol pot around 1.7 million murders.
But if you think in the last 100 years, who has been responsible for the most substantiated deaths.
It is Adolph Hitler.
Because not just the 6 million or more Jews he killed.
But the 25 million Russian soldiers, coupled with millions of allied troops, and people of other nations, who died fighting his regime.
Hitler would be responsible for at least, 50 million deaths in his time.
And these from violence, not starvation.

Nope, Garry Kasparov. He killed the whole world.

Two the other 2 posts in support of Pope John Paul the II. His policies on Contraception in third world countries (contributed to deaths from AIDS, especially in Africa). Has lead indirectly to deaths in the millions. The Pope was known to believe that over population is a myth.

Not all world leaders (with the best intentions), realise what their actions are doing to the average person on the front-line of war we call life.


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His opposition to birth control was a scandal in view of the problems of AIDS and overpopulation. According to the UN, 43 million people have been infected with HIV and more than 23 million have died. About 3 million died in Africa in 2003. Yet at a 1989 Vatican conference on AIDS, the pope said that condoms ‘violate the authentically human sense of sexuality’. That’s like saying that you shouldn’t wear gloves because they violate the authentically human sense of touch or that we shouldn’t wear glasses because they infringe the authentic sense of sight. It’s a meaningless comment. More recently, Cardinal Trujillo, speaking on the pope’s behalf, has voiced the nonsense that HIV infections can pass through latex rubber.