Alien Invasion Imminent?

Welcome, officially, to ATS. Congrats on your ambitous and well thought out post. You are brave and do prepare yourself for a slew of criticism.

In response to a previous post, no where did I see you giving us a 2012 doomsday prophecy - just some items to consider and ponder. I appreciate this approach as opposed to those who claim they 'know' through 'I know somebody in TPTB' to those who claim to channel entities to those claiming to know what the future holds for us. To those I tend to roll my eyes and say ' uh huh..sure.' It's my op that anyone who claims to know these things as fact is full of it. I don't think anyone knows. I think we can have intuitive inclinations but to state you actually know - meh.

Reading your post I was reminded of the comments from Reagan at the UN. Curious indeed.

I have to agree with the post above. Vanity does blind the man from logic.

Hitler was actualy fasenated with acient technology and scriptures, this is believed to be the origin of the experiments after WW2 were america was trying to re-create the flying saucer. Nazi germany tried it also (infact america took quite a few german scientists after WW2).

Some of the technology that hitler was trying to re-create was ancient that was said to be given to them by the "gods above/ET's".

I recon that this encouraged him to become obssessed with the aryan race and try to enforce the whole world to evolve into them. It fits, and fits too well to be ignored.

Call me crazy, but I do believe the Roman Catholic Church may know something, at least the Pope and his cohorts do, and they are doing their best to keep this under wraps and perhaps take advantage of it, as I find most organized religion is wont to do. Angels and aliens...one and the same.

reply to post by ~Lucidity


Indeed, why else would the vatican liberary be only allowed to be viewed by the pope??

If christianity was without doubt the true religion, you would of thought they would want to prove it with all the books they have in there

magical medicine, dividing of roots (medicinal and hallucinogenic use)

that sentence will cost you 500 points by ATS staff and earn you a warn, probably, but back to the subject

That's an interesting argument you make...

Perhaps the arrival of aliens intensifies the closer 'Planet X' is to Earth

I guess this moment in history is more important than the past, since Everybody will know what 'Nibiru' is and what it stands if it exists, and will rip the government a new one for not warning them about it afterwards.

Since Nibiru is an brown dwarf most likely, we probably will have difficulty seeing it with the naked eye since it would be like a charcoal briquette- warm, unilluminated ash on the outside, extreme heat in the inside.

Would we be more likely to see one of its moons before the star itself?

Nibiru's moons or planets would then entirely be able to support life, since its star does emanate heat. It must be strange, to live on a world where there is little, if any, light

That would be interesting, the bulk of the mole people army of Nibiru launching towards Earth during its closest approach to Earth in 3600 years Thousands upon thousands of landing craft zipping into our atmosphere would be quite the spectacle to watch in 2012

There will be a world wide blackout which will paralyze every industrial country in the world. The blackout will last for days. The aliens will accomplish the blackout by transmitting large amounts of electricity into power relay stations and blowing out their circuit breakers. The aliens developed this technique in the 1960's .


During Congressional hearings on UFOs before the House Committee on Science And Astronautics in July 1968, physicist Dr. James E. McDonald felt obliged to report that the vast north-east American power blackout of 9 November 1965 may have been caused by UFO activity. "There were (UFO) reports all over New England in the midst of the blackout" he stated. "It is rather puzzling that the pulse of current that tripped the relay on the Ontario Hydro Commission Plan has never been identified...this is a disturbing series of coincidences...""

Every country's defenses will be disabled. Aliens have disabled ICBMs in their silos, missiles in flight as recorded by Air Force motion pictures, missile defenses in both the U.S., Russia and other countries. Aliens have flown over and tested the defenses of many military installations around the world.

The shutdown of 20 Minuteman missiles at Malmstrom Air Force Base by aliens in 1967.

The destruction of an Atlas F missile in flight from Vandenburg Air Force Base by aliens in 1964, which was filmed by the Air Force.


If you do not find these coincidences obvious then i do not know what to tell yopu.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all your comments; the vast majority being very thoughtful wether or not they agree with my original idea. Like I said in my post - I'm aware that many details need elaborating or that somethings might not be spot on, but as you can already see its a big post as it is, so I had to keep things more as an overview.

The main thrust of the whole argument, and why I feel that we are under threat is the logic of 'why' we are being visited in the ways that we are and have been, and why certain things seem to be happening on Earth right now, and how the much talked about mysterious 'Plantet X' or whatever people want to call it might be fitting in.

Its not intended to be an 'end of the world' thread; indeed I actually don't believe that the threat is from natural disasters etc brought about by the strange planet passing by us. Space is a huge place, and whilst the forces involved are also huge, I believe that the whole 'natural disasters are getting worse' is more likely to be a deliberate fear generator.

What I think is the issue is something that has been mentioned from time-to-time on ATS, and has been mentioned from time-to-time by politicians (such as Regan at the UN), and military people; our shocking vulnerability and 'head-in-the-sand attitude towards invasion from space.

I only connect it in with the 'Planet X' thing because it allows the nature of the alien visitations over several thousand years to make sense i.e. Why the heck haven't they already invaded if they are hostile? Answer - they are waiting for the right moment to strike. Afterall, don't we tend to launch probes to other planets, like Mars, when they are at their closest points to us?

Maybe I am just cynical, or maybe most people associated with the field of UFOs and the unexplained are of a certain, shall we say 'trusting' or overly 'optimistic' predisposition, but I just can't bring myself to look into space, think about what may be out there, and feel safe.

What would aliens be doing randomly 'playing' with fighter jets and radars here and there, seemingly at random; is not an obvious answer that they are testing and refining their own systems?

Why would such advanced aliens be abucting randomers and 'experimenting' with them and implanting devices? Does it not sound like they are again testing certain things (bio weapons etc) and then 'tagging' the experiements to asses the results much as we tag animals?

This is where I bring in a potentially explosive concept, but I'm pretty sure its not been mentioned before on here; why would the US/UK be so absolutely dead set on being in control of Iraq, or should I say the ancient land of Mesapotamia? Oil people say? Well, wouldn't it have been cheaper to just leave Saddam in power, 'make friends' and take it over with corporations? The oil flowed better then than it does now, and as for 'making money from Iraq' - the conflict is costing a hell of a lot more than any oil revenues could be worth.

If an enemy is about to invade and the powers that be knew, wouldn't they be positioning their forces in the most strategically important locations and 'digging in'? Something may have been burried beneth the sands of Iraq, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't WMD or oil they were talking about. I know that sounds a bit 'Stargate' but hey the say fact is stranger than fiction. I'm not saying there is a Stargate down there; just that if this was a long planned invasion they may well have left certain 'stashes' or important command and communication devices.

Just please, at least some of you, when you see Obama and Brown shaking the hands of some 'angel' looking guy whos claiming to save us from the 'evil hordes' and when you see religions celebrate the 'return of their holy ones' - take a second to remember this post and then join the resistance.

Oh well, if I'm not right about this then I'm going to write a bloody good novel

Great read mate

Im still not convinced on a couple of things you write about but agree on a lot - worth further investigation though - s&f

Like someone said before me - entirely possible.

If ET's wanted to invade they would have done it by now.

It would be a lot easier for them 100 years ago than now.

Since Lucidity mentioned it, I think I need to clairfy my statement that 'nobody knows.'

Oh yes, I certainly do believe there are those that do, Catholic Church being one of them as well as the Bilderberger fan club members - I just meant that I don't think any of us 'little' people know the depth or scope of the UFO situation. I believe you have to be *very* high up on the Elite heirarchy to have any solid knowledge.

Not trying to derail the thread as there are many threads dealing with the issue of entertainment & desensitization but the obvious speaks to everything from Barney to Close Encounters ect.

Hi Oliuk,

Originally posted by oliuk
Oh well, if I'm not right about this then I'm going to write a bloody good novel

Yes, a bloody good one at that

Then comes the film adaptation and even bigger bucks.

Originally posted by oliuk
What would aliens be doing randomly 'playing' with fighter jets and radars here and there, seemingly at random; is not an obvious answer that they are testing and refining their own systems?

Why would such advanced aliens be abucting randomers and 'experimenting' with them and implanting devices? Does it not sound like they are again testing certain things (bio weapons etc) and then 'tagging' the experiements to asses the results much as we tag animals?

There is a scenario you have not yet mentioned, possibly not considered:

Subtle subjugation. What really has been happening for thousands of years.

That is, until the "large farm" (as they view it) becomes too unstable and must be directly controlled.

Originally posted by oliuk
This is where I bring in a potentially explosive concept, but I'm pretty sure its not been mentioned before on here; why would the US/UK be so absolutely dead set on being in control of Iraq, or should I say the ancient land of Mesapotamia? Oil people say? Well, wouldn't it have been cheaper to just leave Saddam in power, 'make friends' and take it over with corporations? The oil flowed better then than it does now, and as for 'making money from Iraq' - the conflict is costing a hell of a lot more than any oil revenues could be worth.

The initial reason for that has a lot to do with Israel being a close ally to the United States. To a certain extent, the invasion of Iraq was to protect Israel from Saddam Hussein's forces. Do I agree? No. But there are rich and powerful Jews-Israelis in the US and that had a great deal to do with it. Israel still gets billions of US tax dollars each year for their national defense.

Originally posted by oliuk
If an enemy is about to invade and the powers that be knew, wouldn't they be positioning their forces in the most strategically important locations and 'digging in'?

They, the Reticulans, are already dug in, have been for centuries. According to our own subject matter expert, retired US Army Sergeant Clifford Stone, there are "probably twelve or fewer" full-scale operational alien bases around this planet. Another member of The Disclosure Project said publicly that there is also a large alien base in the Moon.

Originally posted by oliuk
Just please, at least some of you, when you see Obama and Brown shaking the hands of some 'angel' looking guy whos claiming to save us from the 'evil hordes' and when you see religions celebrate the 'return of their holy ones' - take a second to remember this post and then join the resistance.

I think I will hold off on immediately opposing that kind of individual until I am fully briefed as to what that person is all about, his or her values, what he or she intends to do, and how capable he or she appears to be in "walking the talk and not just talking the talk."

Oliuk i have the same hypothesis actually it is more than a hypothesis. I am aware of the reptilians and andromedans/pleadians/nordics. And the greys are under control by the reptilians. You are probably aware of the human hybrud program i assume. I participated in that program , i am an abductee but not currently. You will find that many people here are open minded and see things for what they are also some who cant handle this information.


Hope to see some more posts from you


happy hunting

Originally posted by tylerjamescharles
If ET's wanted to invade they would have done it by now.

It would be a lot easier for them 100 years ago than now.

Obviously you did not read the OS.


It is not that simple

My personal belief is that the aliens are not going to 'invade.' The stronghold and exploitation mechanisms have most-likely been in-place for some years now. 'Their' biggest problem... is the potential arrival of yet another contingency.

The best way to administer a clinical trial - is if the 'subjects' are not aware of it happening to them. The same holds true for exploitation. I cannot think of a better 'cover-up' than planting the idea of 'the aliens someday coming.' It keeps us always looking out... when the truth is more likely 'within.'

'Niburian conscripts' - is an idea as old as the forementioned writings. My opinions remain reserved -as it could play from a similar source. Being as well-versed and educated as possible bodes well - for us all. Good read.

jb

Originally posted by Johnbro
My personal belief is that the aliens are not going to 'invade.' The stronghold and exploitation mechanisms have most-likely been in-place for some years now. 'Their' biggest problem... is the potential arrival of yet another contingency.

The best way to administer a clinical trial - is if the 'subjects' are not aware of it happening to them. The same holds true for exploitation. I cannot think of a better 'cover-up' than planting the idea of 'the aliens someday coming.' It keeps us always looking out... when the truth is more likely 'within.'

'Niburian conscripts' - is an idea as old as the aforementioned writings. My opinions remain reserved -as it could play from a similar source. Being as well-versed and educated as possible bodes well - for us all. Good read.

jb

I will go as far as to say there is a certain species that does not like us and maybe the other species is what is forbidding them or is in the way of this happening. Its naive to assume all alien species that have visited earth are our friends sometimes you have to step back and see it how or what would you do if your species needed this planet to survive. And if they were to view us as expendable as a species and how we are dangerous maybe they will just get rid of us.


The likelyhood favors towards most aliens being friendly but you must aslo take in to account the probability of some being hostile. Im sure not all aliens are singing kumbyah my lord and want to go around helping like the good Samaritans of space.


There are so many scenarios and so many cases where UFO's engaged our Military jets even our planes coming up missing.

Okay great topic and all that....but at some point shouldn't we "grown ups" drop the silly term "aliens" and start calling them what they are....people?. And like all people, at least here on our planet, some are good, some are bad, and most are a happy medium.

And yeah,it does worry me a bit that we have such a beautiful and temperate planet that probably is pretty enticing, but I bet there are laws in space that cover these sort of issues...and people who inforce them.

This whole 2012/planet X thing can be a bit perturbing though just from the physical effects, if its true.

Originally posted by MsSmartypants
Okay great topic and all that....but at some point shouldn't we "grown ups" drop the silly term "aliens" and start calling them what they are....people?.

I actually prefer the term Reticulan, as a number of former governmental insiders have claimed that they were given government briefing papers which identified the aliens as stemming from the Zeta 2 Reticuli System.

Of course, we have many other names for them, none of which can be mentioned here.

Originally posted by MsSmartypants
And like all people, at least here on our planet, some are good, some are bad, and most are a happy medium.

I don't agree that there are any benign aliens in physical terms around this planet at this timeframe. The only benevolent aliens around here right now are certain alien spirits and I am not referring to the deceptive Pleiadians (alien angels) but to others more truthful and objective in The Light.

Originally posted by MsSmartypants
And yeah,it does worry me a bit that we have such a beautiful and temperate planet that probably is pretty enticing, but I bet there are laws in space that cover these sort of issues...and people who inforce them.

I have yet to see any evidence of a moral code of justice AND benign space-faring aliens to enforce it.

On the other hand, there is an abundance of evidence that we are subjugated by an empire that takes what it wants.

Originally posted by MsSmartypants
This whole 2012/planet X thing can be a bit perturbing though just from the physical effects, if its true.

Planet X/Marduk/Nibiru at best, was only a stopping point for the Anunnaki, not their home planet.

If you were an alien imperialist in ancient Sumeria, the last thing you are going to tell your Sumerian slaves is the true location of your home world.

Nibiru was only a cover story.

The Anunnaki (likely Reptilians) came from Reticulum 4.

Just as they do today.

they cant run the planet any worse than we have. or do more damage to it. invite em down.

Originally posted by oliuk
Alien Invasion Imminent?
Please read the entire post. If you skip bits you may well take it out of context.

Without going into too much detail it does appear that the Earth has been visited for thousands of years by several alien races;
Continued:

Yes - we have been visited for as long as there is recorded history, and probably before that as well.

What does it mean? It means we are being watched at the very least.

Does it meant we are going to be "invaded" ??? I doubt it.

Do you invade an ant farm after x amount of time? (and on the flip side, am I even allowed to use human logic to argue for or against this? maybe we do invade/etc? the ant farm)

Anyways - please read the thread linked in my sig - I discussed some of these similar ideas in there already at length.

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Feels some what pretty close to my gut feeling right now.

It isnt that hard or a big enigma,we go out there in space, so what on earth can keep other beings from travel around in space, there is no reason for that. The fact there is no life else where are most surly a lie and I remember telling my wife many years ago, that the day we humans prove us self to them as an intelligent race, they will come..
They are not going to bebysit any one for any reason..

Like Bill Cooper sayd: Put the aliens in the middle and it all makes sence.

And I promise you this, we are not the smart rase out there, we are in the startup fase of things... think about that .. we are not the suprime beings of the universe either. You ppl must stop that crap .

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