McDonald's: No workers comp for employee shot protecting patron

Originally posted by Blueracer
Disgusting. This news makes me not want to give McDonald's any of my money.

Their food alone is Disgusting. why would this instance tip the scale. I stopped eating their food and lost 90lbs. I was only eating 3 days a week. Come on who eats that crap. The company was horrible place to work and pay next to nothing. Who expects any different from that sort of company.

Lets call a spade a spade here.
McDonalds sux! I know it you guys know it. But since this is a chain that has franchisee's and corp. stores this was a insurance company and McDonalds lawyer that has told them they have no right to pay due to the employee's own choice to interject instead of calling the pigs in to handle it. This is par for the course from a company who's profits have gone through the roof the last 2 years cause people can't afford to eat healthy. If this were any fortune 50 company they wouldn't have paid. Cause then if they did the guy who shot the employee could hire a lawyer and say that a large company that backed their employee in this action to escalate a hostile situation and a good lawyer could twist the victim into the cause of this putting McDonalds on the hook for hiring a "unstable" employee. And then in our society where victims become liable for actions could very well steam roll into them paying more money than not paying this guys medical bills and the bad PR they are getting. Companies like this hire people who know the numbers game and they know for evey person who "will never eat there again" there are thousands who will. It sux but welcome to the New Roman Empire where big business is king! it's only gonna get worsefrom here on out too.

From this point onward I will make it my mission to spread around to never go to McDonalds. Burger King is better anyways!

Originally posted by CrashGecko

Originally posted by Blueracer
Disgusting. This news makes me not want to give McDonald's any of my money.

Their food alone is Disgusting. why would this instance tip the scale. I stopped eating their food and lost 90lbs. I was only eating 3 days a week. Come on who eats that crap. The company was horrible place to work and pay next to nothing. Who expects any different from that sort of company.

This is why you shouldn't eat there^! Good for you crash do it for your health not there bad taste in judgment your never gonna sway greed from profit but if your in bad health and the Dr tells ya to knock off McyyD's you better listen.

reply to post by BorgHoffen


What if the police calls are stacked and they do not get on scene for 10-30 minutes? It is our duty to protect each other when we can.

I swear we have become a nation of bystanders and wimps. Make a STAND DAMN IT. I dont care if this woman was the type to keep going back to the abuser or if she was an innocent person getting beaten by some thug wimp woman beater that when faced with a MAN had to go get a gun.

I am so disgusted by some of you peoples posts. We need to stand up for what is the right thing no matter the consequences it is the way of men.

I am a good sized dude, you want me punching you in the face until you pass out and not have anyone help? I bet you would start begging please someone help me.

How do you think this woman felt?

Then Mc Donald's takes a spineless stance like this.

reply to post by wolf241e


Send a message to them and quit eating their food. It is all crap anyhow.

At least Burger King is flame broiled

Not sure what to say..but if my life was in danger at work...
I'd seek some for of compensation whether it be awards, money, time off with pay....

reply to post by BorgHoffen


yeah, don't do anything. Just wait for the cops to come. Sure it might take them 15 minutes, sure he might get into a fit of rage and literally beat the woman to death before the cops arrive.

But hey, better her than you right?

Mcdonalds is no different than any of the big money making corperations They live by thier own rules us #1 employed personel =0 . A large company feels it has no obligation to address such a matter as to a dedicated hero of an employe that has been trained at minimum wage and pay them the same to run and protect thier empire. I say anyone who cares boycott Mcdonalds . This kind of story is all to ccommon. Be very careful or your rich employer will do it to you.

ok guys, give me a break here. the guy decided to go off and play Rambo and tough guy and he got capped for it. He did this of his own free will and it wasn't part of his job.

Read that again, wasn't part of his job.

While he may be a hero to some, he also does not have any right here since he was outside of his realm of duty here.

Now, if he was taking out the garbage and got ganked by this guy out of the blue, that's one thing, but this is another matter entirely. Yeah, its a protection for the company and you know, rightly so. Just because you're on company time doesn't mean that you're covered if you're not doing what you're supposed to do. No one told him to, he went and did it anyway. its kid of like your insurance going void if you crash your car while drunk.

Good people sacrifice so you don't have to. He put his life on the line to help, because others wouldn't. You can argue about who's at fault and who's liable, but the simple fact is that he was RIGHT in his actions.

You know why companies tell their workers not to do anything and wait for the cops? So they can avoid liability if anything happens. That is all. They don't care at ALL about your safety. They don't care about the well being of the victim, because if they did, they would have a better policy than "don't interfere, we might have to cover any injuries that result."


I'll never step foot in a McDonald's again, because god forbid I am a victim of a crime in a McDonald's, I know that nobody will even try to help me. Company Policy.

I can't stand the food and now I can't stand the company. I will guarantee my family will boycott.

reply to post by CoffinFeeder


Just hope you're never the one getting assaulted. Maybe everone will take your advice and just watch. Maybe take out there phones and get a few pictures and videos of you bleeding out so they can post on youtube.

I was employed as assistant manager in a cinema, owned by a major chain, that had suffered a series of violent incidents. I was taken on because the female assistant manager had been forced to hand over the takings at knife point and was no longer prepared to deal with it. I was expected to evict trouble makers, drunks and non-ticket holders. Some of the male ushers enjoyed a bit of aggro and were employed for that reason. Because of race riots in the area, on the occasions police were summoned, they either failed to show or arrived late.

I'm sure none of us read the small print of our contracts or were cognisant of our legal standing in the event of personal injury - we just needed the job.
That's the deal with this kind of employment - poor pay, poorer rights.

The McDonald's employee's unwritten job description would include confronting the aggressor (if no other member of staff did so) while somebody called the police. Certainly it would have been prudent not to, but few of us would want to live in a world where everyone acted like McDonald's, putting legal obligation above moral responsibility.

I avoid McDonald's like I avoid dog muck and will continue to do so.

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As usual, McDonalds shows they have the humanity of a stone statue and the ethics to match.

You Still Suck McDonalds.

And yes, employees ARE expected to eject bad customers. To claim otherwise is blatant lying.

like i have said before and many others did too-the guy did a MORAL RIGHT thing to defend a person being injured. now a miltibillion dollar corporation will not even commend him for what he did. huh little guy gets *SNIP* again. sounds like our govt. go figure.
any place i have ever been in any employee has the right to throw some one out. if they have a bouncer then get them but if not anyone can.
and on a side note why didn't any customers help? shaking my head right now as to the apathy of americans anymore


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reply to post by BorgHoffen


Um, I find your take on this disturbing, as if it's a bad thing to be a hero.
This would suggest that the preferable trait would be cowardice?

This is why this country is going to hell in a hand basket.

Are you a corporate lawyer?

Just asking.

reply to post by LostNemesis


Comments like this are ridiculous! First off helping someone in need should be law in this world and if more people did it the world would be a fantastic place! if you are the type of person who could stand idly by and watch a woman, or anyone for that matter being beaten you need to get some help!

Originally posted by LostNemesis
This employee was not acting on his job requirements when he was shot, and therefor his own choice to act is his own responsibility.

I have disliked McD's and many fast food places for years, so I am not defending them.

This employee thought he was being a hero.... He probably should have called 9-1-1 if he was concerned.

For all we know, this man that shot him is usually abusive, to a woman that still chooses to be with him. Sorry to have a different opinion on this one, but it's a common story. This was between a woman that should have pressed charges and left a loser... not a min wage worker needing to take laws and matters into his own hands.

Seriously, I am surprised McDonald's is not being sued. Employees like this are a liability.

And if this had been your Mother, Sister or Girlfriend? Regardless of the "situation" this young man had no time to discern whether it was "domestic" or not...And if this had been your Mother, Sister or Girlfriend? I personally would have gotten involved. No one "plans" on being a "hero" there are just some of us that identify with others in need and act, for what ever reason, the situation or cause.
Then there are others (perhaps you fit this category) that just don't want to or simply refuse to get involved. Live and let live...perhaps...Personally I will continue with my philosophy.

Too much talk about legality and illegality. Not every instance fits into a perfect little box. Perhaps Mcdonalds could post legal counsel on shift in stores at all times for just such occurenes. When someone is in distress, people must act! The kid is only asking for medical bills. McDs should pay. Too bad it costs 300 grand. That's our glorious medical care system: the best in the world......if you're rich.

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