The Biggest Game In town- You should probably watch this soon

Originally posted by vehemes terra eternus

Hey Walter, sorry to hear those scumbags are pulling at your wings. Your video and your story are simply incredible.

Peace

This is about as big a story as it gets. If it is as it claims to be, more independent confirmation will give it greater weight.

That's what I'd like to see.

Any case has to be made a strong as possible.


Mike F

Here is my biggest problem with this video, I refuse to buy into anything that comes from someone who looks like John Wayne Gacy. My gut tells me there is a bit of truth, but not much more.

Originally posted by BennyHill
Here is my biggest problem with this video, I refuse to buy into anything that comes from someone who looks like John Wayne Gacy. My gut tells me there is a bit of truth, but not much more.

Well alot of people think he's got a good amount of numbers backing his concern....It's designed to be confusing you should try to remember. That way it appeals more to the strongly apathetic sentiment americans have adopted.

and the fact that its just plain hard to stomach
its hard to believe that there could truly be anyone that cruel and dishonest
these people have absolutely no morals
to steal that much yearly from your own people you own brothers and sisters

besides they have already payed off the main stream media

and will probably blackmail anyone else who says anything

thanks walt for this info good job i wish you well stay strong

Originally posted by Quest

Go take some accounting courses and you'll see there is no conspiracy here. Those funds cover long-term liabilities like state pensions, lotteries, medical programs, and other things.

For example if the state has 10,000 workers who are set to go about 20 years between retirement and death, and (for simplicity) they each get $30,000 a year then the state needs AT LEAST six BILLION in funds to cover them. This doesn't even include things like money for lotteries or other long-term programs.

Then consider that the states are behind the games. At some point they started this program and the first people to retire immediately gobbled up everyone's initial pay in.

If you release the funds to stem taxes then you have shortfalls a few years down the line.

Social security has the problem that the trillions of dollars it has won't cover the long-term. The abilities of the states to stay above water because of investing in the markets is one reason the Republicans wanted to privatize.

The only way someone will see a conspiracy in these PUBLIC and HEAVILY USED AND REVIEWED documents is if they have virtually no understanding of accounting.

Again: CAFR's show yearly fiscal statements with funds but funds cover all liabilities, not just those of that fiscal year.

The most simple way to put this is that those funds are owed back to the people and are and will be paid back to the people. This is why you don't see pension liabilities on the expense for 2010 on the CAFR2008.

Thanks.

This was posted Feb 27th, and I lost in the rush to scream blue murder uncovering the biggest conspiracy scam ever.

Interesting to see the dynamics.

Big question is how down are their investments now.



Mike F

Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by Quest

Go take some accounting courses and you'll see there is no conspiracy here. Those funds cover long-term liabilities like state pensions, lotteries, medical programs, and other things.

For example if the state has 10,000 workers who are set to go about 20 years between retirement and death, and (for simplicity) they each get $30,000 a year then the state needs AT LEAST six BILLION in funds to cover them. This doesn't even include things like money for lotteries or other long-term programs.

Then consider that the states are behind the games. At some point they started this program and the first people to retire immediately gobbled up everyone's initial pay in.

If you release the funds to stem taxes then you have shortfalls a few years down the line.

Social security has the problem that the trillions of dollars it has won't cover the long-term. The abilities of the states to stay above water because of investing in the markets is one reason the Republicans wanted to privatize.

The only way someone will see a conspiracy in these PUBLIC and HEAVILY USED AND REVIEWED documents is if they have virtually no understanding of accounting.

Again: CAFR's show yearly fiscal statements with funds but funds cover all liabilities, not just those of that fiscal year.

The most simple way to put this is that those funds are owed back to the people and are and will be paid back to the people. This is why you don't see pension liabilities on the expense for 2010 on the CAFR2008.

Thanks.

This was posted Feb 27th, and I lost in the rush to scream blue murder uncovering the biggest conspiracy scam ever.

Interesting to see the dynamics.

Big question is how down are their investments now.



Mike F

MMichael just so you know if you read a bit after he posted this you will see that he did NOT at the time he explained this watch the movie, He had read what one gentleman on here summarised the movie to suggest and while no offense is meant to be directed torward the gentleman whom summarized, it wasn't very detail oriented and the thing about this scenario is all the details matter.

Originally posted by Averysmallfoxx

Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by Quest

... Those funds cover long-term liabilities like state pensions, lotteries, medical programs, and other things.

... CAFR's show yearly fiscal statements with funds but funds cover all liabilities, not just those of that fiscal year.

The most simple way to put this is that those funds are owed back to the people and are and will be paid back to the people. This is why you don't see pension liabilities on the expense for 2010 on the CAFR2008.

This was posted Feb 27th, and I lost in the rush to scream blue murder uncovering the biggest conspiracy scam ever.

Interesting to see the dynamics.

Big question is how down are their investments now.

MMichael just so you know if you read a bit after he posted this you will see that he did NOT at the time he explained this watch the movie, He had read what one gentleman on here summarised the movie to suggest and while no offense is meant to be directed torward the gentleman whom summarized, it wasn't very detail oriented and the thing about this scenario is all the details matter.

I am aware of the posting sequence.

I take important and complex information from written material not videos.

I still would like to see the initial points addressed.

One has to look at the complete picture here not just one side of it.

If this case that vast sums of money are being subverted is as presented and the full documentation can bear out the claim, it should stand up to scrutiny.


Mike F

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I agree with the above post. The fact the numbers (and money they refer to) exist is hardly incontrovertible. The logical reason these numbers are not reported in annual budgets is due to the fact they are long-term investments to cover long-term expenses.

Take a person who makes $50k per year. To him, one million dollars sounds like an outrageous amount of money he would never see in his lifetime, yet he will make that much and more over a 30-year work period (1.5 million, to be exact). During those thirty years, such things as retirement funds, mortgages, car loans, food, clothes, and other general living (and leisure) expenses will come out of this amount. The numbers all add up in the end and don't seem so unusual anymore.

Mr. Burien, I watched your movie (yes, all of it), and I am thoroughly impressed. It takes either a highly-dedicated man intent on spreading Truth or the truest form of Crackpot to spend so much time and effort putting it all together for us laymen. Unfortunately, as I am ever the skeptic, I find myself leaning more toward the latter than the former.

Considering the ramifications it would have on absolutely everything in our present reality, please clarify the above points for us all. They seem to be the only real stumbling blocks that remain (aside from your supposed John Wayne Gacy resemblance - to which I somewhat disagree) to converting the last of us skeptics who have kept an eager eye on this post.

Crackpot or not, I do sincerely appreciate the story, Mr. Burien and OP. It made for an entertaining and highly informative (I'd never heard of CAFRs before) read. Thanks and have a great week!

Oh, and an especially huge thanks for joining our discussion. That alone speaks volumes.

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I think thats pretty much everyones opinion on this. The one question I think is on everyone's mind is how solid is this intel? I tend to believe it is quite solid but I am not a tax man so my belief is based on wanting to believe Mr.Burien and what he claims is happening to him for letting out this information. Admittedly I come off bias. If it can be proven to be faulty then I would not continue to support his efforts but neither side of the scenario has any definitive confirmation so I'm just gonna watch and keep involved in the discussion till it breaks out.h

I am not sure how to word this but doesn't the gov's ownership of private business create a conflict of interest when laws are being passed that directly benefit the business as in the FDA making B6 a drug that big Pharma can sell then the gov get profit. A little simple perhaps but it is all a bit too heavy for me.

Then there are the tax breaks big business gets. No wonder, it is the gov giving themselves a tax break while the rake in the profit. Just gives them more profit so the money can go in a different coffer.

edit to say...I am stating the obvious.

[edit on 4-3-2009 by liveandlearn]

reply to post by liveandlearn


Yeah, it is obvious yet look how acceptable it is to all of us.

They don't even have to try and hide what they are doing anymore. Simply package it in a 10,000 page bill and no one will bother reviewing it.

We are so conditioned....

Originally posted by Rollinster
reply to post by liveandlearn

 

Yeah, it is obvious yet look how acceptable it is to all of us.

They don't even have to try and hide what they are doing anymore. Simply package it in a 10,000 page bill and no one will bother reviewing it.

We are so conditioned....

Thats my theory as well. So if they ever DID get caught, they would just say that it was out in front the whole time in the CAFR report that is available publicly but the subtlety in that is how they have blanked the media with a blackout on the word "CAFR". So in essence they would have made available to us publicly what we had no idea existed and was kept in the dark about....pretty much just HIDING it and the worst part is it's obviously an intent type of deceit because they censored this word, this report. For no other reason than simply to keep us unaware. Too bad America is so apathetic that we play right into their hand.

I'm sure when and if there is ever a sweeping audit there will be plenty of breaches, to say the least.

Recalling the numbers quoted, doesn't this involve tens of thousands of of administrations, and tens of trillions of dollars? That would mean something like a million people who work full time maintaining these revenues, doing the bookkeeping, etc.

So how many are in on it and on the take?

I know the conspiratorial mind gravitates to cigar smoking fat guys in suits around a board room table chortling as they think up news way to bilk the common man.

But I expect it's thousands of nondescript accountants, working towards modest pensions, who know where the money is allocated and why?


Mike F

reply to post by mmiichael


Indeed it is hard to imagine the scope of people in on it. However the surplus seems so overwhelmingly large to pay off anyone involved or necessary quite adequately.

Originally posted by mmiichael

So how many are in on it and on the take?

I know the conspiratorial mind gravitates to cigar smoking fat guys in suits around a board room table chortling as they think up news way to bilk the common man.

But I expect it's thousands of nondescript accountants, working towards modest pensions, who know where the money is allocated and why?


Mike F

How many? I say all of them. I honestly believe that once we elect them into office they are immediately working for themselves (party affiliation, not personally, thay have to put in some time before they can break away from towing the party line long enough to further their personal agenda).

I can't remember the last time they (representatives/senators) actually did anything for us without furthering their own agenda.

This sounds familiar though, could it be?:

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in
its profits, or so dependent on its favours that there will be no
opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body
of the people mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous
advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens
without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system
is inimical to their interests."

Quote by:
John Sherman
Protege of the Rothschild banking family
Date: June 25, 1863
Source: in a letter sent to New York bankers, Morton, and Gould, in support of the then proposed National Banking Act.

quotes.liberty-tree.ca...


Hmmm...

Is there a better quality version of this video anywhere? I have a hard time watching something that sounds and looks like a voice-over.

reply to post by Rollinster


Yes, we are conditioned until we know and do something about it. All this time I thought it was at the federal government level.

They don't even have to try and hide what they are doing anymore.

Agreed. Now they are openly buying up stock and the vast majority won't even know they are just adding to their current stock until they own it all.



[edit on 8-3-2009 by liveandlearn]

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I doubt it man, this video's old. It was origianlly on VHS, I doubt you're getting much better.