Alan Keyes: Stop Obama or U.S. will cease to exist

pfffft, i dont know, i didnt do the math really. ha ha. whatever, i dont care. people arent gonna change anything anyways, there going to continue wasting time rallying up and pumping their fist, only to have nothing change, and go back to their boring lives, or they will just come on the internet and make threads on how there needs to be a revolution, and blah blah.

billions of people would die before humanity gathers together as one unit to revolt against their oppressors. but by all means, enjoy your threads and replies, its all a part of the plan, it keeps you docile, and allows you to get out your frustrations. keeps you contributing to the laziness in you, that wont actually go out and risk anything to save your constitution, freedoms, or your country.

anything that happens, its our fault, because no one really tried to do anything about it. in this corrupt world, thats pretty much saying you want to give your life for the cause. i personally dont care, and dont need to. the beauty of life, i dont have to give a damn. until the revolution comes that is worth a damn, and has intent to not back down until change has occured. ill just watch the movie as it goes by. whatever.

my bad about the numbers. like if matters anyways, its just numbers behind a screen somewhere.

[edit on 22-2-2009 by jimmy1200]

Err... I kind of have a feeling he's a bit of a weirdo. I don't know about this guy.

Originally posted by jimmy1200
why dont they just give the people like 20 grand each. i said that exact number, and that would give a major boost to the economy. its just gonna go right back to the business anyways, but at least it will help get people out of debt, or allow them to start some nice savings, or invest. whatever

Because it wouldn't get money moving. People would save it or pay off their debt but it wouldn't create jobs or change anything. After a couple months, when the money was spent or saved, we'd be right back here.

And there would be nothing to show for it. No railways, no new roads, no computers for schools, no jobs, no solar... And we'd be right back depending on foreign oil.

If this country were unconstitutionally taken over by a foreign communist leader, I'd try to kill him. So would pretty much everyone else I know. The same probably goes for most of you, and presumably for Mr. Keyes if he's any kind of man at all.

So shame on Mr. Keyes, either for his cowardice or for his dishonesty. I suspect a bit of both, but mostly dishonesty.

I don't think people are getting the bigger picture here.

Instead we are bickering, fighting, and arguing over semantics. This is exactly what people like George Soros want.

It really doesn't matter what exactly Obama's political ideology is. What matters is that there are millions of Americans who don't like it. Their anger and numbers are growing everyday.

It is building momentum. Regardless of attacks on Keyes' character or partisan insults, it will not stop. The policies and legislation from the Whitehouse and the Congress are fueling the fire.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
It really doesn't matter what exactly Obama's political ideology is. What matters is that there are millions of Americans who don't like it. Their anger and numbers are growing everyday.

It is building momentum. Regardless of attacks on Keyes' character or partisan insults, it will not stop. The policies and legislation from the Whitehouse and the Congress are fueling the fire.

I get exactly what you're saying. In fact, I've felt that way before. I've felt like millions of people were angry and that we wouldn't take it anymore. I've felt that we would absolutely for sure put the criminals behind bars any day now... I shook my head time and time again and thought "How can they get away with this"? I said, "Unfreakingbelievable" many times. But still, it happened. That what I've been saying for the past 6 years.

So I know exactly what you're saying.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by jimmy1200
why dont they just give the people like 20 grand each. i said that exact number, and that would give a major boost to the economy. its just gonna go right back to the business anyways, but at least it will help get people out of debt, or allow them to start some nice savings, or invest. whatever

Because it wouldn't get money moving. People would save it or pay off their debt but it wouldn't create jobs or change anything. After a couple months, when the money was spent or saved, we'd be right back here.

And there would be nothing to show for it. No railways, no new roads, no computers for schools, no jobs, no solar... And we'd be right back depending on foreign oil.

Well if that wouldn't "get money moving" as you said....where the hell is the first trillion dollars that they stole from the American tax payers? I dont exactly see where that money did anything to help anyone other than the same Wall Street criminals who caused this mess to begin with.

Where will this most recent $800 Billion dollar hijacking end up? Will this near trillion dollar ransom be put to use as well as the first one? These fools can't even devise a plan to help the very exact homeowners that they are declaring to be so concerned about!!

This is not a stimulus, it is an armed robbery. Call it what it is and dont pretend that the money being taken is being used to help the people of this country. Giving $20,000 to every tax paying citizen may not move the money around the way your man Obama wants it to, but it would damn sure make more sense that taking it and giving away to bankers and criminals and lobbyists like they have been doing.

At least this way someone who actually needs help may just get some, God forbid. Oh...but I guess that big fat $8-$20 per week increase on our paychecks will save us all like the great overlord has promised?

Please.

Originally posted by BlackOps719
Well if that wouldn't "get money moving" as you said....where the hell is the first trillion dollars that they stole from the American tax payers? I dont exactly see where that money did anything to help anyone other than the same Wall Street criminals who caused this mess to begin with.

I gotta agree with you there. The $350B that Bush/Paulson gave to Wall Street padded their nest eggs, I think. We have no idea where that went. There was no accountability and tracking of it. The second $350B is scheduled to go to the same people, but under different management. There are strict rules being imposed. If they had used the money as they were supposed to, we might not be quite as bad off as we are a few months later.

I was and am against the bailout of Wall Street and the banks 100%.

Where will this most recent $800 Billion dollar hijacking end up?

Since you're asking that, I'm going to assume you wouldn't believe me if I told you because its already been discussed openly and Recovery.org goes into detail about it.

At least this way someone who actually needs help may just get some, God forbid. Oh...but I guess that big fat $8-$20 per week increase on our paychecks will save us all like the great overlord has promised?

I'm not defending this stimulus plan. I'm just saying that handing out $20K to everyone wouldn't work to stimulate the overall economy for the long term. It would be a bump and then we'd still be here. The money has to be channeled into projects that will create jobs and leave us with something after it's spent.

And besides, $800B split among the people of the US gives us less than $3K each.

Originally posted by BlackOps719
where the hell is the first trillion dollars that they stole from the American tax payers? I dont exactly see where that money did anything to help anyone other than the same Wall Street criminals who caused this mess to begin with.

Where will this most recent $800 Billion dollar hijacking end up?

This is not a stimulus, it is an armed robbery.

Yes, and Bloomberg reported it to be $8.5 Trillion dollars, now up to $9.5 trillion, that there's no bottom to this. I don't understand, so don't ask me to explain. I'm only reporting what Bloomberg said.

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Your post is very interrsting.
Why don't you tell us exactly what a socialist is?

Originally posted by MagicaRose
reply to post by johnsky

 

Your post is very interrsting.
Why don't you tell us exactly what a socialist is?

I have a great idea. Why don't you give google a try and YOU tell us
what you think a socialist is.

Here's a start.....en.wikipedia.org...

Alan Keyes is a sore loser, he has been on the hatemongering of Obama long before he was elected, he needs to go find another way to pay his bills, I want to you always think of this, if a person has the world's ear, they are dollars, if a person like an Alan Keyes or Rush Limbaugh or Anne Coulter have their medium, those can always be converted to dollars and cents, not sense, Mr. Keyes according most accounts is in debt, and questionably so, he got major bills to pay so his options to make a new story and be listened to are fading, no one would buy his books, no one will pay him to speak, his time is running out and he is coming up with any desperate charge or cause he can, he got bills to pay.
external link to information on Keyes, I have not fact checked but you can!

[edit on 22-2-2009 by phinubian]

Originally posted by Merriman Weir

Really? If Obama was really a Marxist then, rather than continue to allow the American car industry to be propped-up and CEOs still able to feather their nests and lay-off 1000s, he'd actually be handing over the factory keys and decisions to the actual shop floor workers.

That's not happening because Obama isn't a Marxist.

Enjoy your indoctrination!

Ummmm, not to rain on your parade, but by setting up an auto industry board that is dominated by union leaders and "intellectuals" that are socialist at best, it IS like handing the keys to the workers. Read "Atlas Shrugged" for the outcome of that very scenario.

Try reading some news and formulating an educated opinion steeped in fact.

Jason


[edit on 22-2-2009 by jasonjnelson]

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Historically people usually don't take action till they are desperate. Even as all kinds of stuff happened under the last administration, people wern't really desperate. People still had their homes, jobs, shopping, and American Idol.

Things have changed though. Many people have lost their retirements and investments. Many businesses have gone under. Many people have lost their homes and jobs. They have seen things go from bad to worse in Washington. The economy is doing worse now than it was before any so called stimulus. No one is being held accountable and corruption is rampant. Both parties are in denial and blaming each other rather than taking responsibility.

If things continue on this course, the anger of these millions of people will become action.

What scares me is that I think this is exactly what people like Soros want, a destabilized, bankrupt and fragmented America. An America in default to China. A nightmare scenario that results in a collapse like the Soviet Union's.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
What matters is that there are millions of Americans who don't like it. Their anger and numbers are growing everyday.

Millions more Americans who didn't care for the policies of the last 8 years had their anger and numbers grow daily for quite a while, and they punished the responsible party considerably in the recent election, and they aren't stupid enough to blame the new administration for the whole thing just because the problem didn't get solved instantly.

So unless right wingers want to attempt a "continuation of politics by other means" it signifies nothing new or terrifying for American politics. And as I pointed out, even the most vehemently angry opponents of the new administration don't believe their own propaganda enough to fight.

Some very scary people made a grab for control of the Republican Party and they had some success, but they've been humiliated now and it would take a highly unusual and dramatic show of power to preserve many of their political lives beyond 2012.

So call me when Alan Keyes seriously hurts somebody, either politically or physically. Until then, it's nothing but the crying of a badly wounded elephant.

All you people who think you know the various forms of Government, especially the knowitalls like tuff guy Johnsky who insists Obama is NOT a socialist, inspite of where you think our Government is heading, ONE thing is unequivocally certain and THAT is OBAMA has ALWAYS been fascinated with socialism and communism. His mentors were all communists and socialist, his Father was his cousin Raul Odinga and his mentors Saul Alinsky who wrote many of Obamas favorite books and if you had read them you would have seen the many speechs Obama gave where the lines were takin right out of the saul alinsky playbook. The Church he went to the Jobs he had and who he worked for and with were predominantly people KNOWN for their socialistic views. Everyone from Bill Ayers to GD AMERICA Jeremiah Wright.

You say where you are allowed to have a socialist party in your country, well so do we and they are called DEMOCRATS

If any of you are from Illinois you know first hand Obama belonged to the Democrats for socialism party and for those like johnsky who thinks he knows so much about what he is talking about he actually gets nausiated hearing anyone calling Obama a socialist, I have this to say:

OBAMA AND MICHELLE BOTH have always had an interest in Socialism. They are two people who have never loved this country, they loved the country they wanted to change this one into.

The evidence of Obama's socialist leanings is UNDENIALBLE!

get a clue

















[edit on 22-2-2009 by Aermacchi]

Originally posted by jasonjnelson


Ummmm, not to rain on your parade, but by setting up an auto industry board that is dominated by union leaders and "intellectuals" that are socialist at best, it IS like handing the keys to the workers. Read "Atlas Shrugged" for the outcome of that very scenario.

So who should be on the auto industry board? The corporate running dogs that put the automotive industry in the tank in the first place.
Perhaps if the automotive owners and executives had of listened to the workers and "intellectuals" we would still have a viable auto industry.

Didn't you notice, "Atlas Shrugged" is FICTION. And Ayn Rand was a fascist.