My friend saw alliens

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Hope to read you soon on msn


I think that we are far away here in the thread to the topic....
that is really sad, because jeanne only want to know, if it is possible that someone meet aliens...
for me it is possible, but I have never meet an alien, I think that I have never meet

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
You have to know what you're experiencing is real and correct.

Indeed First hand experience is something nobody can take away from you, not even the most pathological skeptics. Nobody can tell you what you have experienced and only you know the answers to it.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
Maybe, with your help, I could finish that time travel into one of my past lives.

Have you ever managed to access the Akashic Record? By the way, if you have something in your dreams that you need to have explained, when you wake up in the morning, don't move, keep your eyes closed, ask the question in your mind and be silent. I am just mentioning it, it may help you to figure out what you are looking for (but you may know that already anyway).

Greetings

Originally posted by vereny
because jeanne only want to know, if it is possible that someone meet aliens...

Yes, it is possible to meet aliens. No doubt. I only don't know the requirements that you need to fulfil that they show up. This is no belief system.

Greetings

[edit on 12-2-2009 by TheWriter]

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Thank you. I will try that.

I haven't accessed the Akashic Records. I would love to do it but it hasn't come to me yet. Any hints?

Perhaps we should make a new thread elsewhere so that we can continue discussion about non-alien, non-UFO-related stuff as well.

There is so much out there....

CosmicEgg,

As contradictory as this may sound, as I said, I'm actually very interested in OBEs, so I would like to chat with you privately if that's ok with you.

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I have no objection to private comms. I don't know how I can be of assistance to you because my journeys are sponsored by entirely spiritual means. What would you say if I told you I have been to the Creator? The very one at the top of all this? The central energy of all things. Would you still be interested or would you think I'm entirely mad? If you haven't blown a gasket yet, please U2U freely.

Five years ago, I knew nothing of these realms. It's so incredibly vast that even after all I've done so far, there's more out there than I will ever see.

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There is a book titled "Past-Life Memories" by Richard Webster, quite inexpensive that gives numerous techniques and also for exploring the Akashic Records.

I have never managed to access it myself though, but I can say that on my path exploring certain realms, you get answers and help that you can spiritually grow. Therefore it is not a bad thing if you don't manage to get there as the way is the destination itself. IMO.

Greetings

[edit on 12-2-2009 by TheWriter]

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I'll see about finding a copy. Thanks.

Have you been working in these realms for a long time?

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you are totally mad sweety why you don't sleep??

I don't know if I want to see aliens or I have ever done, sometimes I see creatures, I don't know what they are...so maybe there was some aliens...

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
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I'll see about finding a copy. Thanks.

Have you been working in these realms for a long time?

It is all a bit more complicated here since it is virtually since birth. All skeptics may now really chalk me up as a nut case, but this is OK

Basically since birth and what I have seen ranges from spirits to the greys. If someone wonders if I am special, then my answer is NO.
Enlightenment is a choice exactly the same as ignorance. I am positive that a person only receives as much as he/she is willing to accept. And that's why most skeptics are kept in the dark. Sure, they can label someone gullible or or being hallucinative, but without having had any experiences for themselves, the claim that someone is gullible or making things up is the only logical explanation left to them. Maybe even also a psychological lifeline that they are not even aware of.

Greetings

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I'd have to admit, I'd be extremely skeptical...I've read of such accounts of people going to some kind of limit to the Creator, the farthest one can go, but that they could not go any further beyond. Is this what you mean? They also stated that it was so overwhelmingly powerful that they'd never want to go back.

@thrashee

I am not sure if you are interested in listening to these interviews. I would start with the one on top. You may find it highly interesting.

OBE - Interview - Robert A. Monroe (10 parts)

OBE - Interview - Robert A. Monroe (6 parts)

Further Information also available at Monroe Institute

Greetings

[edit on 12-2-2009 by TheWriter]

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I've seen some of these, but not the whole interview. Thanks for posting them! One day when I have a spare 2 grand I'm going to go to one of their Gateway programs.

Vereny: I'm not sure what to think about your comment.

TheWriter: You were fortunate to live in an environment that would allow you to keep your awareness intact. I would love to hear about your experiences, at least the ones that stand out in your memory. I think this time around, I came in with all but insurmountable odds against my success. It's been a struggle but worth all it took to get here. There's still a lot to learn (Akashic Records! How cool would that be?!) and I have loads of time.

thrashee: Ask and it will be given. That's seriously all it takes. When you meditate, it's always a good idea to express your gratitude for all the things that make life worth living. At first, it comes out as a list, becoming ever more exhaustive. Eventually though, you will learn to send it as "intent". It's no less conscious and exhaustive, but it's more complete and infinitely faster. It's the Pony Express vs email. At that time, you can avail yourself to ask for something that you would like to learn, to have. With pure intent, a pure heart, it will be given. You have to wait for it a bit. It can be days or months depending on what you're ready for but in time, it will come.

That may sound a bit like the old time prayer to you. The old "Ask and ye shall receive" bit probably doesn't go over well here either, and much as I would like to think that our religious doctrine is tosh, there are elements of the Truth in all of them equally. No one of them alone is correct, to my experience. But that phrase is found in all of them and I have had it told to me by "them" as well.

Originally posted by CosmicEgg
The old "Ask and ye shall receive" bit probably doesn't go over well here either, and much as I would like to think that our religious doctrine is tosh, there are elements of the Truth in all of them equally. No one of them alone is correct, to my experience. But that phrase is found in all of them and I have had it told to me by "them" as well.

Many people say that they don't remember their dreams. But a good deal of them I have found out (those I have talked to) don't even care if they remember their dreams. Ask and you shall receive. I agree with you entirely. Ignorance is a choice. Enlightenment is a choice.

I find it interesting that many seek enlightenment. Why would one seek what is just in front of you? Ask and ye shall receive. It all becomes so complicated, because they fear what their friends, acquaintances, colleagues, etc. say and how they could judge. But society lashes out if you break the etiquette of being an individual. Of course everyone is allowed to be normal, but not individual.

Ask and ye shall receive takes courage. It takes determination. It is a path many want to walk but are scared of, for it may become a path they need to walk alone. What they don't know however is each one has to walk this path at one time, and so, each one becomes a sole traveler on his journey.

I am not a man of belief but a man of experience. And despite of not believing in any holy scriptures, I think that any open-minded person no matter where on this planet finds the truth - even if it was only one sentence among a hundred lies.

But one thing is required and that's exactly what CosmicEgg said: Ask and ye shall receive

Greetings

Originally posted by Zeptepi
Yours is THE best first post I have ever seen here at ATS....Welcome.

Hi Zeprepi, thanks for the remark lol! I thought I'd throw myself in there and just say what I thought, and as I always try to, with some reasoning!

Thanks for adding me as a friend, I appreciate that, I would have messaged you on U2U but I need twenty posts before I can do that. I've put up a podcast on the 'members podcast' section if you want to check it out, it's called 'Songs For The New Dark Ages' and it's some music I've put together recently.

Back to the thread, my sincere advise for anyone who thinks that they can hear telepathic voices is first to consult a mental health proffessional, even just to discard the possibility of illness, just to be practical, and then, yes, if you have a clean bill of health and still hear communications you think are from Ets, I can't say it's not a possibility, no matter how unlikely.

After this I would then suggest getting in contact with someone who studied this area to see if they could help? I guess the best kind of reasoning would be in what these messages actually were, what they consisted of, what their motivations would appear to be.

I'm open minded, although skeptical, but I guess if it's doing no harm then I can't see the problem.

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1. Does someone who studied a holy scripture know if the divine creator exists? No.

2. Does anyone who studied this entire field that is discussed in this thread know if it's all just hallucination or real? No.

You may have experts in in point 1. and 2., but experts only offer you an opinion and research results.

I respect your opinion maarduk and sure, this society wants to lock people quickly away who claim to hear voices. But have you ever looked outside? They are building all kinds of places where they worship a divine creator. Ever thought of sending them to the psychotherapist? No. Because this is something different, right? But why is it different?

I know you are a skeptic, but once it happened to you, and imagine you wanted to speak to others, and they started telling you that you were a nutter, what would you do then? Wouldn't you feel treated unfairly? Wouldn't you think that they are not open-minded enough? I seriously don't know what you would think, but what would you think? This is my question for you.

Greetings

[edit on 13-2-2009 by TheWriter]

Originally posted by TheWriter
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1. Does someone who studied a holy scripture know if the divine creator exists? No.

2. Does anyone who studied this entire field that is discussed in this thread know if it's all just hallucination or real? No.

You may have experts in in point 1. and 2., but experts only offer you an opinion and research results.

I respect your opinion maarduk and sure, this society wants to lock people quickly away who claim to hear voices. But have you ever looked outside? They are building all kinds of places where they worship a divine creator. Ever thought of sending them to the psychotherapist? No. Because this is something different, right? But why is it different?

I know you are a skeptic, but once it happened to you, and imagine you wanted to speak to others, and they started telling you that you were a nutter, what would you do then? Wouldn't you feel treated unfairly? Wouldn't you think that they are not open-minded enough? I seriously don't know what you would think, but what would you think? This is my question for you.

Greetings

[edit on 13-2-2009 by TheWriter]

Hi TheWriter,

thank you for your comments, I appreciate them and read them with interest.

To be honest I wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers by my comments and in all sincerity and genuine spirit, I merely wanted to express my opinion if someone had indeed told me in private or in person that they thought they were communicating via telepathy with Ets. And, my sincere response would be what I stated. I only ventured the possibility of seeking mental health help to establish to the individual that he/she is well and of sound mind in a rational way, a logical way, just simple reasoning.

And then of course I got slated lol, but my apologies if my comments seemed innapropriate or lacking much thought, I admit simply saying 'she must be crazy' is not what I meant at all.

I am well aquainted with mental health issues having looked into the subject matter previous to this thread and it is nothing to be ashamed of at all, and my only suggestion was for the benefit of the OP, that he could help his friend understand these communications if they are indeed of Et origin.

I think drawing a distinction between people believing in a religion and talking to voices telepathically is important. Surely if someone attending church began saying he/she was contacted by God or Angels telepathically then even his/her priest would refer them to a doctor. Belief is a thought process essentially, one of choice concerning siding with a set of beliefs from scripture, not however, I do believe thinking they have personal communications with voices.

What if it happened to me? Well, actually it did happen to me, I'm not afraid to admit that in 2000 I believed I was in communication telapathically with angels, ets and God for a period of months. Later of course I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and quickly sectioned into a hospital after my family were concerned at my hallucinations which I called visions and also voices which I called Angels ets. So, well, I do understand and have some idea of what telepathy consists of because for a periods of months I believed to be participating in such a practise.

You know, I'm not really a skeptic (as thrashee will no doubt agree with lol) and I am open minded, I do believe in God, angels, Ets, Ufos, hell I even believe in the Loch Ness Monster, but again, talking about something such as hearing voices, surely it is wise to atleast consider a proffessional opinion of the mental processess of the brain.

Anyway, thank you TheWriter for your informed and valuable contribution.

Take care,

Dan

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I was in therapy two years. i got pills to help me get rid of my depressions and that I don't see demons and hear voices
At the end, the voices were still there, no matter how many pills i took
...
Tell a doctor that you hear voices or see demons or angels or what else.. they will never say that this is normal.. . They allways think that it is a illness behind the voices and visions.

I think that many poeple have had the same experience with doctors and that many poeple take many pills and are maybe addicted, because the doctors think that itis not normal to see things or hear voices.

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Hello maarduk, thank you for your reply and your thoughts.

Here a few thoughts …
If a person admits to hear voices then I would like to differentiate between some people who hear voices that say, for example: “Go out and kill your neighbors or run amok.” Such people are potential risks. There are also people out there, conditioned by their belief systems who say that if their creator commands them to kill people, then those people are also potential risks.

Therefore I definitely agree with you that mental health care must not only
be considered, I guess it is mandatory.

But the other group of people and those which I was talking about or at least had in mind are those who hear fragments or smatterings of conversations in their head, especially during relaxation or meditation exercises. To communicate with aliens may sound crazy, but in the realm of possibilities. Astral Projection is a means to meet entities. So everyone has the choice to verify these things, but basically, these voices could come from the astral plane.

It may be considered as a belief system, but once a person has gained experience, belief system is replaced by knowledge.

Unfortunately there are also two other types of knowledge:

1) One kind of knowledge is the belief system. We accept a belief system and consider it as knowledge or true. (religion)

2) The other kind of knowledge is knowledge. We accept what we believe without questioning or we have stopped questioning it. Thus is becomes knowledge too. (science)

Originally posted by maarduk
I think drawing a distinction between people believing in a religion and talking to voices telepathically is important. Surely if someone attending church began saying he/she was contacted by God or Angels telepathically then even his/her priest would refer them to a doctor.

It’s a good point you made and my immediate thought was if a church member confessed into a priest, who subsequently referred the person to a doctor then this priest had a very good motif. A priest would not like to have anyone to talk to God (provided God is real). The Church would lose power and influence over this person. The self-importance of the Church would or could be lost. But it’s also possible that the priest or priestess didn’t believe in all what is preached and concludes therefore that the other person is nuts. No matter what scenario, I am positive that the Church does not desire anyone to become aware of his or her own true potential. The gain of awareness from a person equals lost of influence and power for the Church. Therefore anyone could be expected to be referred to a doctor.

I am rather disappointed that many skeptics don’t even bother to experiment or do something entirely open-minded to find out for themselves what’s real and what just a lie is. I have the impression that many skeptics rather attempt to debunk everything instead of having own experiences. Attempts to debunk are probably funnier, I assume.

But once again, I agree with you with consulting a doctor, but it must always be taken on an individual basis and never taken as a general rule.

Greetings