**AMAZING** Artifact On Mars!! Original JPL Picture source included!!

reply to post by Anomic of Nihilism


All I see is Rocks, Rocks and more Rocks.

reply to post by ArMaP


Well done. You picked it like a broken nose.

Star etc for you.

Originally posted by Anomic of Nihilism

However,you consider ALL other options and investigate, and if at the end you are LEFT WITH a ROCK, then cool. But we HAVE to consider the other options first, otherwise what reamains hidden...STAYS hidden.

Peace

AoN

Hey buddy, I just went back and reread what you said. I have a questionf for you.

Why is it that we HAVE to examine every other possiblity besides a rock first? Im not sure I understand your logic.

Why is determining if it is a rock first so bad? My point is that ALL possibilities MUST be checked out, We should not ignore a single one. IF we do then our findings will be flawed and some what in accurate.

assuming it is one thing or the other is not going to work. We must look at ALL possibilites and not just say well its oddly shaped so it cant be this.

Ive shown that it CAN be. Im not saying it is, but im not saying it isnt either. Im saying I dont know, but I do know that if we fail to investigate all posibilities our analysis will be flawed

Peace and love

[edit on 9-2-2009 by gimme_some_truth]

After reviewing some of the more profound posts in this thread regarding radiometric photos, I've came to a conclusion.

Given the fact that the initial photo was directly from NASA, that gives us some very good ideas. One, in the initial photo, it very well does look like metal, especially after the fragmentation of rust.

However, from a skeptical point of view, I do agree that the radiometric photo renders it nothing more than a interesting looking rock.

My thesis/2 cents:

We will never know what that object really is, because we can't take it back to Earth for further observation.

End 'o story.

Has Richard C. Hoagland put up anything about this? It is really one of the few I seen that actually looks like an anomily and not a weird rock.

Originally posted by Free4Ever2

now you show your naivety in your post, dont deny what possibly cud be true, study and research!!

Perhaps you misread what I said. I never denied anything. Infact I started off my post by saying I do not know what it is. I said that I dont know if it is a rock or not.

Studying and research is precisly what I did. I saw people claiming that there is no way a rock could look like that, so I studied and researched and found pictures of rocks that do in an effort to show that rocks CAN look like the picture provided in the OP.

Now, I ask you, what exactly is "naive" about my post? my stating the fact that I dont know what is in the picture for sure or my showing that yes rocks can take on similar forms to te one in the OP?

I mean, forgive me for questiong your conclusion but You seem to have completley misinterpreted my post.

NOTHING, was denied by me. Nothing at all. I never said that it wasnt an alien bone or a wrench used by the local ufo mechanic.

All I said was that yes, rocks can look like that and after I studied and researched I provided pics proving my statement?

Thats naive? I dont think so.

Since you seem to have me pegged as a non believer, let me clarify to everbody right now. I dont believe in aliens, I do believe in ufo's I believe that there is a chance that aliens have visited our earth.

But like I said, if we are to just assume it is one thing or another, our analysis will be flawed. we MUST look into EVERY possibility before we just say it is this or that.

I never claimed it was a rock, and I never claimed it wasnt, I merely showed that rocks CAN and do look like that.

Originally posted by Revolution-2012


We will never know what that object really is, because we can't take it back to Earth for further observation.

End 'o story.

You are absolutley right rev.

I dont know what else to say to that except you are absolutley right.

It looks like a smattering of thin shards along with the snake and japanese lantern thing is what I first saw when the pic was downloading. I noticed shards strewn about first when pic was downloading then the snake and japanese lantern thing after it was done downloading. Its odd that every body's talking about the snake thing more so than the lantern looking thing.

Radiometeric adjusted image from a UV Blue filter dont tell us jack about what that is. For one, looking at this image from the raw state or even from some adjusted png copy of it does not give us any other information from just 1 UV Blue filter.

I can take the raw data image and simply adjust it to look like that radiometric adjusted image too. Big deal. Does not tell us anything other than someone can turn down contrast and brightness and throw the entire image historgram into a huge lump on the lower luminance scale.

We need the other filter data of this image to tell what it really is.

Here is my radiometric adjusted image from the raw dataset image, adjusted simply by turning down the bright and contrast.



Now here is the raw data image with its proper filter color applied, the L7 UV Blue filter.



The color filters on the Spirit and Opportunity PanCam's



Neither one of these alone tells us jack, radiometric adjusted, or even the raw data with proper filter applied.

We need the other filter data, L2, L3, L4, L5, L6 for visual analysis and the full range geology filters to be able to tell if this is just a rock or.....?



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 9-2-2009 by RFBurns]

looks like a Martian squirrel.

Or maybe a Martian version of a hockey stick.

2nd line here.


Cheers!!!!

I am going to say the thing in the background is a rock. The black areas of the "rock" are just shadow/darkened areas.

The actual object mentioned in the OP though...looks like it could possibly be metal?

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Thats why we need the other filter data to be able to determine the composition of the object.

A black and white raw data image without the filter applied to it doesnt tell us anything. We can only see so many shades of gray scale, and materials cover a far wider range than just 256 shades of gray.

If we had the other filter data, specifically the L2, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6 and R7 filters we could find out what the compositional differences are from the rocks nearby to this object. Also if we had the L3, L4, L5 and L6 filter data, we would get a much wider visual range to look at besides 256 shades of gray.

There is just simply not enough data there to say either way. Parts of it looks like rock, parts of it looks like something else, but what those compositions are exactly, cannot be determined or proven by just 1 filter image.


Cheers!!!!

[edit on 9-2-2009 by RFBurns]

I'm leaning towards that being a metal...Its perfectly aligned and would make sense as if mars did have life that perhaps a ship of some sort crashed or an object. It's no rock, looks like its bending. Great find.

Frankly, that whole formation looks strange...Take a look at the other "rocks" surrounding it.

It sort of looks like some sort of crab leg to me. Does anybody else notice the rock or what ever it is that its laying on looks like some sort of skull with a beak and an eye.

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The image a little further from the right of the wrench-like object looks like a mask which was used by the alien on the movie Predator.

reply to post by RFBurns


Very erudite RF.

But how could a lack of data show us that the underside of the "handle" is actually solid? Or, put another way, aren't filters designed to remove certain elements/frequencies, so what you are left with is less information, not more.

In the original pic, the handle looks like a handle, but the filtered version shows us that it has a solid underside. I don't see what you are getting at?

Clutch lever or hand brake from a motorcycle. Possibly from either one of Evil Knievel's failed jumps or a Hells Angel crash. You just never know how far one of those parts will fly from a crash.
Note the devil skull at about the 3:30 position at 4x distance from said lever.
Or maybe, rocks.

[edit on 2/9/2009 by eaganthorn]