**AMAZING** Artifact On Mars!! Original JPL Picture source included!!

reply to post by Res Ipsa


And what gives any one particular member the definative authority on declaring what that is in that image?

Be careful putting people so high up on a pillar. If proven wrong, that which you put up so high will come down upon your head first.



Cheers!!!!

[edit on 9-2-2009 by RFBurns]

No offense, but why are you willing to believe something else only if someone else sees something? That's baffling.

Phage has a very analytical mind as far as I can see, but I get the feeling (and he can correct me if I am wrong.. I actually agree with his thinking almost all of the time), that he finds it his duty to find an alternative solution — no matter what. For example, in the 1941 LA incident, I was surprised to see he supported the idea that our military was dense to the point of attacking a cloud for upwards of an hour. As if our military often mistook cloud formations for enemy planes. I didn't find that remotely plausible, and thought he came up with that theory simply because he felt it his duty to come up with some other, more plausible explanation, other than it was something unexplainable (with our current knoweldge / info).

Is it possible this came off of the lander itself? Did it lose a piece of itself? I'd find that more plausible than a piece of satellite coming down just there.

reply to post by fleabit


That 1941 LA incident wasnt any mistake or shooting at clouds or thin air. Especially when you invert the image and you can see the shells bouncing off the object they are shooting at.





Cheers!!!!

reply to post by projectvxn


Maybe there was a vague hint of water there at some point? Might not be rust?

I think they found, with the Pheonix Lander, that the sand there was 'sticky'. Maybe its just sand clumping together.

Either way its a bloody wierd shape

Cheers

Aon

Originally posted by thesneakiod
The darker bit of the "wrench" on the bottom right of it is a small rock on top of a longer flatter rock. Its casting a shadow to make it look like the clasp of a wrench when its open a little bit.

Damn i wish i was good on computers to show you what i mean.

Not a unnatural artifact but simply little rocks that casting shadows. And when this happens the eye tries to relate it to a earth like object. Hence the wrench.

Can anyone here explain/show what i mean?

I know what you are saying, but the object itself is casting a shadow, and the sun would have to be very low indeed, to make that long of a shadow from a small rock on a larger one, and it's going the wrong way, too. So I am thinking not.

But I thought perhaps at first it was a larger rock, but it's not. You can clearly see a roundish rock underneath it.. both in front and behind it. It's rather thin.

reply to post by gimme_some_truth


True. Rocks here on Earth come in all shapes and sizes but a lot of the shapes and patterns are likely due to erosion from previously elevated water levels such as the ones we find in the Grand canyon or other ares where water levels used to be exceptionally high in the past.
Which may or may not confirm theories that Mars was, or is inhabited with life. Or at one time the place that the said artifact is found may have been under water.
I am by far not very educated in Geology, but just a thought.

Originally posted by RFBurns
reply to post by fleabit

 

That 1941 LA incident wasnt any mistake or shooting at clouds or thin air. Especially when you invert the image and you can see the shells bouncing off the object they are shooting at.

Cheers!!!!

Yes, I know that.

I was saying that Phage felt it was a cloud. I couldn't see how it could be. Our military wouldn't be so dense as to think a cloud was an object for over 45 minutes, that makes no sense whatsoever.

reply to post by gimme_some_truth


None of the rocks you posted resemble the one in question, so don't be so quick to call others niave. What is niave is to think that in a universe so vast that there is no other life.

I'm surprised that no-one's mentioned what looks like something half-buried to the right of the "wrench":



Again, I know there are strange patterns of erosion in nature but...

One of the geologists was in my office asking for help, so I showed him two version of that picture to ask him what sort of rock he thought it was. The best he could come up with volcanic in nature, since some of the stuff that gets spewed out can stretch out and form weird shapes.

He asked another guy to come check it out though, this guy is probably the most experienced geologist here. He took one look at it and said "yea, that's a weathered rock." I didn't tell him where it was (Mars). I asked if he was sure... looked vaugely man-made to me! He said "Naw.. that's a rock." He seemed dead sure at least.

So maybe it is just a rock after all.

But still a very curious shape, none-the-less.

reply to post by Anomic of Nihilism


DANG.....Is that where I left my crescent wrench at????? I have been looking all over for it too....

Looks more like a fossil fish or lizard to me. I know everyone see's things differently but my first thought was where's the metal, what about the fish/lizard thing.

When you look at it with its correct ratio 1010x415 because it is a panoramic camera it looks more like a rock and less like a wrench. But i will say its a strange looking rock and id have to say would definitely been formed through heat

Replied annon earlier as I couldn't remember pasword. I'm not seeing a wrench but a fish or lizard type "fossil". It has a little eye, a mouth and what could possibly be a tail drapped over the adjacent rock. We do know that Mars had water in the distant past and with very little if any tectonic action up there this could be a martian fossil. Just a thought.

Martians invented the Adjustable Wrench? Here come the patent suits...

Some posters have commented that the odds of one probe seeing another is astronomical. The lander does move at a snails' pace but also keep in mind these probes were all generally aimed at the same area of Mars to look for the most likely signs of water.

Thats really cool.
It does sort of look like a wrench.
And it has the same thickness as a wrench. How did you notice this?

S&F- Love this stuff. I too see what looks like a vest to the right, and to the far right what looks like a toad. And a few other anomalies.
Like the rest, I have no idea what I'm looking at but it's nice to be able to see things like this from another world, and let the mind wander a bit, but not too far.

It looks like an artifact.
It looks like a tool.
This is not surprising if you have read Quantavolution.
The earth and mars were both once under a binary star system.
Life may have thrived not just on earth, but also on mars.

See www.grazian-archive.com...

It is also possible that that tool came from earth in any one of those close encounters between earth and mars. When material may have been exchanged between planets in recent history.

See /c75x9j

[edit on 9-2-2009 by goodsamaritan]

reply to post by Anomic of Nihilism

That thing to the right of the "skull" rock looks pretty weird also. Looks like a bicycle helmet.

Heh, heh, bicycle breaks, fix bike, forget wrench and helmet?