Discussion of Ruling Bloodlines Disclosure

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Apologies if this is anachronistic, but I have a vision of a world where the solitary "law" is love. After all of this is over, I see "my" world having an entirely different system where there is plenty for everyone, things such as money, ownership and "need" don't even exist. This has been uppermost in my mind for many years now and my particular role is very clear now.

I, for one, am quite enjoying the "chaos" going on. It will be a pleasure to live in a kind world. We deserve better.

Can I ask too, do you know of the significance of 12:34? I've seen it for many years now, more at times (several times per day) and less at times (weeks in between). It means something but I don't know what.

Also, during meditation I was given a symbol. I think I know what it means and it is in keeping my world vision above. I appreciate that your people are managing the destruction, but do you know about the construction (of the new) side of life?

I have a few questions:
1. Do you have an estimate about how many souls on earth will "graduate" to 4th density for the coming harvest? How many negative, how many positive?
2. What dimension or density are you or is your group?
3. Can you tell us a little more about your role in the family and what your purpose is in this current "life time"?
4. After one graduates from 3rd to 4th, or 4th to 5th, etc does the veil of forgetfulness fall or does the game start all over again?


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Joan are you playing the flirtatious game of cheek and shining eye?

Shall we bite you?

Remember travelers, the seduction of the serpent.

I consort with the serpent.

I devour him.

reply to post by Pilot

I agree Pilot. The game is 'on' in our forum, as well. I am enjoying the discussion, nontheless.
Joan, Ra was asked about Orion's discs in our skies, and Ra's reply was that the discs are sending messages. Am I correct in guessing the messages are negative in nature?

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See, there is nothing wrong with what has been depicted as "negative", in the HH papers...

We live in a world of choices (3d).
Choose between activity (passion) and a lukewarm (empty) life.
Choose between attention to yourself (nothing wrong in this) and attention to "other than self"
Choose between exploring and imploring (the return journey)

When he mentionned a 4th dimension "Negative" world, he certainly meant to continue the work of exploring further the externalisation process on working on the self.

At the end, bothe polarities just meet together, since "self" , as "other than self" are but the same in the ONE

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It takes a while, well it did for me, to absorb and understand the fact that in our reality, there are good and evil (pos and neg), with neither one being different than the other in the 'eyes' of the Creator. When you look at a Hitler and a Mother Teresa and see them as the same, that is when you finally understand ... right? See the creator in all.

I read this somewhere in my travels, relating to our selves and acceptance of other selves, "I lay down my hand (of cards) for you to see, and I accept you, even though I cannot see what your cards are."

Tough, yes, VERY tough.

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Thank you for your thoughts. I appreciate that.

Evil always results from fear, uncertainty... and these result from ignorance.

Therefore must ignorance fade away. And I think that both the RA papers and the HH blog have shed some light.

Time is indeed growing very short, but this should not produce any fear. To take a decision, it costs no time, and change thereupon is inmediate.

It always hurts me to read how many people fear and suffer still...

Time grows sso short. and there is still so much to achieve.

namaste

Joan,

My only DUTY here is to have fun and respond to topics, or create ones, that I find interesting.
I do find your thread interesting. I thought Hidden Hand's thread was very good, also. However, that being said, I think you are full of it. Very eloquent with your words and obviously pretty intelligent.
Does that make you an offworlder? I doubt it.
However, you could prove it, if you chose. If you decide to give me evidence, I'll be your biggest supporter. In fact, you could even do so through U2U and if I find the evidence to be sufficient, you have my word as a gentleman that I will keep it between the two of us.

Originally posted by BARAKATUHU
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Time grows sso short.

namaste

I noticed your 'typo' here, and your signature... hmmmmm

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Suffering is already so high, here.

Difficult to imagine now, what the kind of catastrophe would still push people to accept the change needed, and fight ignorance.
A change every individual should work on, without delay.
Humankind should have paid attention since long ago to the real purpose of life here and now.

Wars ? We're getting so bored and used to them. Our boys killed... and still such source of honour.
Tsunami ? Who, what can be blamed ?

Indeed some portions of land, here and there, on the globe, may be flooded suddenly... No need to wait until some more ice melts slowly away...

What can there be done to inform quickly and rightfully, and maybe bypass the misuse of free will ?

Is this maybe the purpose and the duty of those so-called ruling families ?
Their action is indeed often perceived as "satanic"... but is it not so that a strong crisis and suffering may encourage people to look inside, rather, since the structures of society and organized religions become weaker and weaker ?

hmmmm. . . Kratchett plays symphonic tunes to sadistically madden those that confound her. Wow!!! med-time. It's been a fun read. . . somewhat frustrating, but fun nonetheless. I really don't have any questions, but felt the need to point out that this wreaks of self-fed delusion. Pardon my irreverence Joan.

You have met God.

Care to elaborate on this? Describe circumstance and impressions?

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bit, we can all visit even the Creator if we wish to. There's no court waiting to assess our acceptability. Learn to meditate.

J: I apologize to you for taking this long to get back with you BluJay.

BJ: Who hears us when we pray? Ra speaks of the Confederation, do some of them help us out? Our higher selves?

J: Your prayers (as well as many other things like hopes, dreams, emotions and thoughts) emenate from you through lifestreams that form The One. As smaller beings than yourself sense these currents they have a tendancy to bring your hopes to pass.

The only prayers that reach the Confederation are the large ones (by many humans asking the same thing at around the same time). They feel these stirrings and they have the opportunity to either agree or disagree with what is being asked. They choose according to who and what they are.

If you have a higher self, they can be a strong proponent for your point of view (occationally they will disagree if they see it unwise) and can participate with you in the correct intents that lie behind your prayer.

BJ: From what I understand from Ra and H_H, the Earth is or has already transtioned into 4th density. And that those making it to 4th density either positive or negative will go to their own Earth like planets. Will those who must repeat the cycle remain on this earth if it is not destroyed by nuclear war?

J: Yes. The process takes many cycles, but each cycle you learn, adjust and become prepared for what lies ahead.

BJ: And forgive me for the emotion here, this just nags at me all the time... all of the animals here that are treated horribly, tortured, neglected and the like - are they cared for in death?

J: I will not answer this because the beings that are with you beleive that by exposing you to these feelings that it will cause others to worry about them as well. In a way they are praying to you, asking that you might care for them. If you let them do their job, and while they are doing it contemplate on ideas that might help the animals, then you are doing much to help these animals.

Submit to their fears partially and allow them to do their work. What is happening is this message is being transmitted far and wide so that the animals will have proponents who seek their fair treatment here on the physical plane and elsewhere.

BJ: Thank you, Joan.

J: You are welcome BluJay. Hang in there.

BJ: 1- So the best way to approach my attempts to 'remember' is studying more Buddism?

J: The beings with you have contact with the Outermost Sphere (you). They are a little nervous about this, and wonder if it is their bad luck. If they wish to go somewhere, then understanding Buddhism or the Law of One gives them the most Free Will to do what they figure needs doing.

BJ: 2- The machine belongs to the Universe, created for 'its' sake; do you mean for the Universe's sake, for the Soul's sake or for Intelligent Design?

J: For all our sake. It is what has been said earlier by another poster. It allows beings at this time of The End to engage in activities that lead to the Ascention. Without the Machine, there is no Ascention. It is an ugly part of reality, but a necessary one.

BJ: I agree Pilot. The game is 'on' in our forum, as well. I am enjoying the discussion, nontheless.

J: Which forum is this BluJay? I like to keep a list of various URL's so that I can visit and observe them.

BJ: Joan, Ra was asked about Orion's discs in our skies, and Ra's reply was that the discs are sending messages. Am I correct in guessing the messages are negative in nature?

J: Yes, Orion suffers, and where there is suffering comes the pleading for release. This message resonates through the cosmos as a cry for comfort (negative polarity) so Yes you are correct. However the suffering in Orion is for a reason, it is not a needless suffering.

Originally posted by BARAKATUHU
reply to post by blujay

 

Suffering is already so high, here.

Difficult to imagine now, what the kind of catastrophe would still push people to accept the change needed, and fight ignorance.
A change every individual should work on, without delay.
Humankind should have paid attention since long ago to the real purpose of life here and now.

Wars ? We're getting so bored and used to them. Our boys killed... and still such source of honour.
Tsunami ? Who, what can be blamed ?

Indeed some portions of land, here and there, on the globe, may be flooded suddenly... No need to wait until some more ice melts slowly away...

What can there be done to inform quickly and rightfully, and maybe bypass the misuse of free will ?

Is this maybe the purpose and the duty of those so-called ruling families ?
Their action is indeed often perceived as "satanic"... but is it not so that a strong crisis and suffering may encourage people to look inside, rather, since the structures of society and organized religions become weaker and weaker ?

Guess I need to digest that one. Well, if I took to the streets yelling with a sandwich board, I'd end up in jail or a mental institution. Any suggestions for us?

J: I apologize to you for taking this long to get back with you BluJay.

BJ: Who hears us when we pray? Ra speaks of the Confederation, do some of them help us out? Our higher selves?

J: Your prayers (as well as many other things like hopes, dreams, emotions and thoughts) emenate from you through lifestreams that form The One. As smaller beings than yourself sense these currents they have a tendancy to bring your hopes to pass.

The only prayers that reach the Confederation are the large ones (by many humans asking the same thing at around the same time). They feel these stirrings and they have the opportunity to either agree or disagree with what is being asked. They choose according to who and what they are.

If you have a higher self, they can be a strong proponent for your point of view (occationally they will disagree if they see it unwise) and can participate with you in the correct intents that lie behind your prayer.

BJ: From what I understand from Ra and H_H, the Earth is or has already transtioned into 4th density. And that those making it to 4th density either positive or negative will go to their own Earth like planets. Will those who must repeat the cycle remain on this earth if it is not destroyed by nuclear war?

J: Yes. The process takes many cycles, but each cycle you learn, adjust and become prepared for what lies ahead.

BJ: And forgive me for the emotion here, this just nags at me all the time... all of the animals here that are treated horribly, tortured, neglected and the like - are they cared for in death?

J: I will not answer this because the beings that are with you beleive that by exposing you to these feelings that it will cause others to worry about them as well. In a way they are praying to you, asking that you might care for them. If you let them do their job, and while they are doing it contemplate on ideas that might help the animals, then you are doing much to help these animals.

Submit to their fears partially and allow them to do their work. What is happening is this message is being transmitted far and wide so that the animals will have proponents who seek their fair treatment here on the physical plane and elsewhere.

BJ: Thank you, Joan.

J: You are welcome BluJay. Hang in there.

BJ: 1- So the best way to approach my attempts to 'remember' is studying more Buddism?

J: The beings with you have contact with the Outermost Sphere (you). They are a little nervous about this, and wonder if it is their bad luck. If they wish to go somewhere, then understanding Buddhism or the Law of One gives them the most Free Will to do what they figure needs doing.

BJ: 2- The machine belongs to the Universe, created for 'its' sake; do you mean for the Universe's sake, for the Soul's sake or for Intelligent Design?

J: For all our sake. It is what has been said earlier by another poster. It allows beings at this time of The End to engage in activities that lead to the Ascention. Without the Machine, there is no Ascention. It is an ugly part of reality, but a necessary one.

BJ: I agree Pilot. The game is 'on' in our forum, as well. I am enjoying the discussion, nontheless.

J: Which forum is this BluJay? I like to keep a list of various URL's so that I can visit and observe them.

BJ: Joan, Ra was asked about Orion's discs in our skies, and Ra's reply was that the discs are sending messages. Am I correct in guessing the messages are negative in nature?

J: Yes, Orion suffers, and where there is suffering comes the pleading for release. This message resonates through the cosmos as a cry for comfort (negative polarity) so Yes you are correct. However the suffering in Orion is for a reason, it is not a needless suffering.

cont.

BJ: I read this somewhere in my travels, relating to our selves and acceptance of other selves, "I lay down my hand (of cards) for you to see, and I accept you, even though I cannot see what your cards are."

J: This is one of many Answers worked out. Another where I have travelled is: I won't look at your cards if you don't look at mine.

If I had to guess I would say that your Answer is Plieadian.

J: Which forum is this BluJay? I like to keep a list of various URL's so that I can visit and observe them.

Joan, I was actually speaking of this forum, ATS, and the 'game' we are playing here together