Soccer ball is deflected by invisible object in MID AIR around 18ft up

Originally posted by sotp
I hope you didn't get the impression that I meant Americans can't play "Soccer"! I know there are good players there, and quite a few have come over to the UK to ply their trade and done well

No way, I was pre-empting any possible remark like ("are you saying that because the maker is from the United States they are amateurs by default").

Would not want to arouse the soccer fans in here.

The defender and the forward anticipate the ball's trajectory enough to be in the right position. Unless they were party to the invisible deflecting anomaly, it's safe to assume that the ball followed standard laws of physics.

Surely the movie Angels in the Outfield wasn't based on fact and angels haven't transferred their attention to world of football? If they have, I'd like to politely ask them to give Liverpool FC some help. Show Rafa the error of his ways and protect us on the 25th of February

It still doesn't even look like there's any real deflection, just an arch.

The sudden movement change of the ball kind of reminds me of how two magnets would repel each other. As for the gravity thing, the ball does not start dropping to the ground for another second. The upward trajectory is halted, but it is not immediately thrown back to the ground. The original trajectory is interupted by this abnormal change, but the rest of the ball's path is normal. It's certainly strange looking, but I'm not convinced of any UFOs at this point.

As for the receivers of the kick, they are running in as if the ball is landing sooner than expected.

[edit on 7-2-2009 by Kratos1220]

As someone who both plays football and watches several games a week on tv or in person, I really don't see anything in the movement of that ball that I've not seen many times before.

There is some weird spin on the ball, and I think it is as a result of the defender who attempts to block the cross getting some kind of slight contact on the ball almost simultaneously as the other guy makes contact, hence some strange looking spin being applied to the ball.

I've watched the video over and over and I'm fairly certain that's what's happened. I'm afraid I don't see anything unusual about it whatsoever.

Originally posted by Anti - Government
reply to post by alaskan

 

Ye you are absolutely right the ball did have spin on it that’s obvious but that sharp movement from it isn’t caused by spin of the ball

also i saw a video very similar to this a while ago but it was during an American Football match where the same thing happened the ball was half way through the air and it just dropped suddenly it was pretty odd

sadly I have absolutely no explanation for these types of occurrences the only thing I can come up with is they are fake because a far as I can see the players don’t take any notice to the ball after it was deflected and the same thing in the American Football video a while ago which you would expect at least someone on the field or in the crown to notice but no nothing

i'll try and find that American Football video aswell

First let me say that it is a shame how this thread turned out so far. Take that statement any way you like.

Now..

I looked for that video myself. It is gone, lol. ATS search seems to be broken for me so can someone please search for it? If you can find that video, it will blow the "spin" theory right out of the water. Oblong ftw.

"As for the gravity thing, the ball does not start dropping to the ground for another second. The upward trajectory is halted, but it is not immediately thrown back to the ground."

I was referring to the change in effect of gravity changing the shape of the ball as it stops working against gravity and starts working with it. It would change shape as a result of this, so using the change in shape of the ball as evidence it was defelected by something is misleading.

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I too watch plenty of football, and have played plenty as well, but I've never seen a ball arc up, then move in a straight line in the air before arcing down! If you are seeing that regularly, I'll have some of what you're smoking please!

It's just weird, but I doubt it's a UFO...maybe Jeff Stelling and the SKY Sports team in one of Rupert's cloaked black helicopters?

[edit on 7/2/09 by sotp]

Here in chronological order.

The captures made with vlc, filename represents time (first one is 16.0564 seconds, last one is 16.2063 seconds of the footage)




























161277 is moment of first contact with unknown
161325 is full contact
161426 is start of altered flight path

Well?

I can't believe this topic has made it to 4 pages...

As others have pointed out already, part of the glory of football is that their is english placed on the ball depending on how you strike it which means you can curl it into the proper location, or spin it away from the goalie. Has anyone ever heard the phrase "Bend it like Beckam" ? There is no real deflection mid air as stated in the topic title. The players were in proper position when the ball landed, also another sign that there was no invisible object in the middle of the air to deflect the ball. Also, it is worth noting that soccer balls are made to ENHANCE the movement of the ball depending on the spin.

Some of you should ease up off the conspiracy stuff and go play a game of football and experience this stuff for yourself. You might just see invisible objects altering the flight of the ball all game long



[edit on 7-2-2009 by ImaNutter]

reply to post by MoonMine

161277 is moment of first contact with unknown
161325 is full contact
161426 is start of altered flight path

The ball's shape changes when it's kicked and seems to slowly topple over itself in this shape, but once the ball goes on in it's altered trajectory, the toppling seems to stop briefly with the ball being flat on top and bottom, then start toppling again at a slower pace after a couple frames. Interesting if nothing else.

Edit to add: I still don't think it's a UFO, but I'll humor it for a second and say that if a UFO redirected this ball, it was not because the ball "hit" it. I would say it's more because the UFO repelled the ball with some kind of shield and changed it's path without impacting it in any way. Don't know what caused it, maybe the wind, but certainly not spin. I know what a bend looks like and that's not it. Good thread nonetheless!

[edit on 7-2-2009 by Kratos1220]

I also don't see how you can compare a volley ball and a football,a volleyball is a lot lighter then a football and any average player can put spin , swerve, on a volleyball, but your average footballer can not put that kind of movement on a football.I don't know that the UFO scenario cuts it, but it does look strange to me.I played football for a lot of years and have never seen that type of movement before.

Originally posted by MoonMine
Here in chronological order.

The captures made with vlc, filename represents time (first one is 16.0564 seconds, last one is 16.2063 seconds of the footage)


161277 is moment of first contact with unknown
161325 is full contact
161426 is start of altered flight path

Well?

look at these images again. what you're seeing is not compression of the ball, it's motion blur coupled with pixelation. the camera used is obviously not a professional grade with high optical zoom designed for sports like you see on tv. it's a consumer grade with low optical and high digital zoom. this motion blur and pixelation is due to the digital zoom. basic photography.

[edit on 7-2-2009 by optimus primal]


edit: i took the images out because it was a horrendously huge quote and i realised the original pictures are only 4 or so posts above this one.

[edit on 7-2-2009 by optimus primal]

Originally posted by optimus primal

look at these images again. what you're seeing is not compression of the ball, it's motion blur coupled with pixelation. the camera used is obviously not a professional grade with high optical zoom designed for sports like you see on tv. it's a consumer grade with low optical and high digital zoom. this motion blur and pixelation is due to the digital zoom. basic photography.

I would agree with that as an explanation of the 'deforming' of the ball, but not the path it takes.

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i would explain the path of the ball by an unseen force...the air. there's no way to judge just what the aircurrents are in that short video, all the players are in motion and there's no trees or stationary objects next to the players to tell you windspeed or windaction. if the ball went up and suddenly performed a 45 or 90 degree angle sure...i'd say it hit something, but this is clearly not the case here.

Originally posted by sotp

Originally posted by optimus primal

I would agree with that as an explanation of the 'deforming' of the ball, but not the path it takes.

Agreed wholeheartedly. The camera's shortcomings could explain the shape changing of the ball, but definitely not the flight path of the ball.

Originally posted by optimus primal
reply to post by sotp

 

i would explain the path of the ball by an unseen force...the air. there's no way to judge just what the aircurrents are in that short video, all the players are in motion and there's no trees or stationary objects next to the players to tell you windspeed or windaction. if the ball went up and suddenly performed a 45 or 90 degree angle sure...i'd say it hit something, but this is clearly not the case here.

Yeah, I wish there was something in the video that would give us an idea of the wind at the time. To me, the ball abruptly changes during flight. It stops going up before it should stop going up and it does so at the snap of one's fingers as opposed to the gradual fashion I'm used to seeing from a kicked ball, "bent" or otherwise. This is very obvious to me during the video especially the full speed playback.

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to add my take on this video. I live in Denmark and was politely forced to watch soccer/football with my dad from the age of 7 until the age of 14, several times per week without fail. And from having seen quite a huge bit of soccer in my time, I can safely say that the ball in the video is certainly (without a doubt, in my mind) having had its course altered by something in mid-air there. A soccer ball can do many things, but that flat panning out there makes no sense whatsoever. A ball can curve this way and that in the same kick, but it cannot on its own behave like it did in that video.

Going so far as to say that it was an invisible UFO is quite silly, in my opinion, though. It certainly hits something, but by the change of the angle, it would seem that the mass it hits is less than the weight of the ball itself. I'd say a large bat or something along those lines. My guess would be an animal of some sort, or something else we don't know about.