Risperdal - The drug companies are coming for your kids!

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
Not all medications make people "zombies."

Apparently it's just the series of various meds they gave to my father over two decades. Who knew the cure for migraines was unconsciousness?

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Originally posted by skeptic1
My point is that it is not capitalistic motivations by the parents and the schools....who are the leading factors in getting these kids on these medications for ADD, ADHD, depression, etc. It is laziness and/or not wanting to deal with the kids.

Gotcha , I was looking at the commercial perspective who advertise that the kids need the pills.

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That's another thing. I've taken an abnormal psych class in college and one thing you notice is how extreme a lot of these illnesses are before treatment. In the real world, you could have the mental equivolent of a mild cold and the doctor will give you anti whatevers for a year or more. They don't seem to encourage people to get off drugs once they're on, so without you trying to get off, you might say on it for many years. Doctor's don't seem to know the difference between severe and mild.

The frightening thing about Risperdal is that a child who takes risperdal has a 40% higher chance of doing illegal narcotic drugs when they get older. It does make you high, it is also a street drug, and children on it long time have a hard time adapting to life without it.It should only be used in discretion.

What the daughter needs is a good therapist and some coping mechanisms. The problem with medications is that they are like crash diets. You lose the weight, but never learn to eat correctly, so you gain it back and then some.

With any kind of psychiatric disorder, you have to go to therapy. It does not work by itself. These medicatioins stabilize, not cure.

When a person is given the tools to cope, then they can face the rest of life. Because problems never stop, just change.

There are drugs for every aspect of parenting:

Want smarter kids - Ritalin/Aderal/Concerta
Want the kids to not get in your way - Also Ritalin
Want the kids not to be angry - Risperdal
Want the kids to be happy - Prozac

The list continues on and on. The next generation might be modified by genetics , this one by drugs.

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It isn't just parenting, though. The public school system has a lot to do with this. They seem to "find" these problems before the parents do a lot of the time.

the only pharmeceuticals i use are in the water supply or tainted food sources, i have had a conspiracy theory that McDonalds. using the Rx symbol was almost advertising they are expirementing on us in their foods.
I put nothing past a cutthroat industry of savvy drug pushers who expect us to obey because of their eternal wealth.

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The problem is actually a little deeper. Are parents having a hard time coping and parenting? YES

There are big differences these days.
Both parents are working. Having far less hours devoted to home life. Making any downtime now worktime.
Kids get far less outside time and rec time at school. Making them energetic and hyper.
Food is laced with preservatives(proven to make kids hyperactive) and corn syrup.

Families are now isolated. American's obsession with isolation has families living far apart and by themselves, instead of families that help each other.
Only a few countries do this, and we do a horrible disservice to ourselves and our children with this mindset. Kids often don't see relatives, or only one parent and a sibling. They don't get much playtime. They are unable to entertain themselves as they are designed to do,through free play and interaction.

We share a duplex with My ILs. I helped them with their aging mother and they help me with my son. GMIL got to stay home instead of being shipped to a nursing home. And my sound forms great relationships, interacts with people, is outgoing, and speaks incredibly well for his age, because he is surrounded by several people interacting instead of one at a time.
But you would be surprised how much flak we catch for this, by people insisting that we should be in seperate houses far from each other. For no good reason. Even though we are perfectly happy with our setup.
If you actually talk to a lot of grandparents, they would love a hand in helping to raise their grandchildren. Other countries the whole family takes care of the children. There is no dumping them into an institutional setting like daycare. The aunts, cousins, and siblings raise them.

I had a friend who came from Nigeria who moved all her sisters here because she couldn't stand the thought of anyone help raising her children but her family.

So here we are: chemical diets, isolation, overworked, and not enough rec time. And we wonder why we are all depressed.

Because of all the isolation and distance, people just don't know how to interact with children. They don't know how to play, and socialize, They don't know how to parent becuase often times, they have not dealt with a child till they have one of their own. Tell me, how does one not socialize with a child until they have one? but it happens all the time.

Mynaeris, skeptic1, and nixie_nox, you all are ON IT! We've got some serious minds and experience on this thread making it a true delight in the strides to deny ignorance...now if only the world would pause for a moment to listen.

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I agree with you about the next generation having modified genetics. I am currently pregnant, which is the reason of going off of effexor so rapidly and I am currently terrified. I am not very far along in my pregnancy, however I am still absoltely terrified about the health of my child.

I have spent countless hours of researching and while my dr's tell me that so long as I go off completely by the third trimester, the baby will be born healthy, these are the same people who have put me on this medication telling me it will make my life easier, so I am more than a little skeptical at what they have to say...

Originally posted by HBStar
I agree with you about the next generation having modified genetics. I am currently pregnant, which is the reason of going off of effexor so rapidly and I am currently terrified. I am not very far along in my pregnancy, however I am still absoltely terrified about the health of my child.

Congratulations, all the best in a happy arrival!

It's natural to fret about what you eat, drink, think, feel, and do. It's also perfectly normal to worry about whether your baby is healthy, how this new person will change your life and relationships, and whether you're truly up to the task of parenthood. But if your anxiety is becoming all-consuming and regularly interferes with your day-to-day functioning, it's time to find a better way to deal with it.

I have a lot of stress in my life right now. Will it affect my baby?

While everyday pressure is a part of modern life, a high level of chronic stress can boost your odds of preterm labor or of delivering a low-birthweight baby. If you're used to caring for others or giving 110 percent at work, making yourself a priority may seem unnatural or even selfish. But taking care of yourself is an essential part of taking care of your baby. Cutting down on stress — or learning how to manage it — makes for a healthier pregnancy.

This and tips on calming can be found here: www.babycenter.com...

It sounds like you've done all you can do at the moment, the rest perhaps can be left for hope and prayer.

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My mother took Prozac and still does because of severe migraine headaches. She has full emotions and is nothing like a zombie.

Oh, right. Medications like Prozac don't make you "happy" and won't work if you're not happy where you are in your life. I'm sure lots of newly unemployed people will be wanting prescriptions to these medications. Too bad they really don't work and will just make your life worse if you don't really have a depression or anxiety disorder caused by chemical imbalance.

Just to clarify my father worked overtime every week and will be ignoring the implication that he was merely unhappy with his life-situation as he had succeeded in the goals he worked for - the wife he wanted, the house he wanted, etc. His migraines were not due to unfulfilled ambitions. Glad to hear your mother has no side-effects, it must be nice. The interesting thing about physiology is the unpredictability it can change due to medication.

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I think the original premise for this thread was the overuse of prescription medications and children....not adults.

Adults can make their own decisions and suffer the consequences and/or reap the benefits of prescription medications. It was their choice to take them.

With kids....it isn't their choice. It is someone else's.

Originally posted by skeptic1
I think the original premise for this thread was the overuse of prescription medications and children....not adults.

Adults can make their own decisions and suffer the consequences and/or reap the benefits of prescription medications. It was their choice to take them.

With kids....it isn't their choice. It is someone else's.

I agree, though many times even adults receive poor advice on what medicines should be doing for them...and often it isn't as easy as saying, "this don't work so I'll stop taking it". Doctors will say "give it time, if conditions don't improve in a month we'll try something else".

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Listen buddy, people taking medications is a personal choice. You cannot slam anyone for taking medications, especially at their own consent.

It's like me, I SMOKE CIGARETTES. Do you know who's fault it is if I die? Have to get a hole cut in my throat? End up with emphysema? IT APPARENTLY WOULD BE MY FAULT CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT I CHOSE TO SMOKE.

Also, guess what else? 95% of medication is no where NEAR as addictive as cigarettes, and the ones that are are pain killers like vicodin, oxycontin, etc.

Before you go bashing the pharmecutical companies, why don't you bash peoples concious decisions. The doctor doesn't say TAKE THIS PILL OR I WILL PUT YOU IN JAIL unless you've done something really bad.

Bottom line, it's a option. It is not mandatory for anyone to take any pill, even if it involves their life at stake. And in that matter, in theory if you we're dieing from a disease, and your only option was a medication that could possibly have side effects, I hope you pray to your all knowing all giving eternal life bareing god.

Good luck with that one.

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Been there, done that with my doctor (as recently as yesterday). Doctors are not pharmacists and they don't always know what they are talking about with medication.

Mine prescribed me a medication for pneumonia which would not have mixed well with 3 of the medications I take now for other conditions. I asked the pharmacist (like always with a new medication) and the pharmacist told me what would happen. Since I didn't want to die, I took the prescription back to my doctor, told him what the pharmacist said, and my doctor was totally confused. He had no idea.

So, it is up to adults to not only trust what the doctor says, but talk to the pharmacist, as well. Sometimes, they know a helluva lot more than the prescribing doctor.

Same thing with their kids. They are taking the easy way out. It isn't fair to the kids.

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Long term effects of some of these is also something to consider. Children growing up on certain medications could affect them either way. I still think many kids are sensitive to their parents and are also affected even if the children aren't yet medicated. Our society has children looking to the parents for clues. Medications etc. and ? dependency can confuse children also.

Children have been known to experiment with adult meds and visa versa. It's pretty sad.

reply to post by Revolution-2012


We are mainly talking about children.

There is a difference between an adult choosing to take a prescription and adults choosing to put a child on medication just because they want them to be more docile and easier to control.

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Well childeren cannot legally consent, so then it is up to their parents choice.

I was placed on risperdal, depakot, ritalin, and other ones I cannot remember. And I'm sure they destroyed my brain.

However, anti-depressants are alot more lienant and have alot less long-term side effects.