OMG - What is this? - Dirty Energy Light Bulbs?

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Hi wycky,

I also have downlights (halogen) throughout the house (hence only using two of the nasty bulbs) and I was unaware that manufacture of the incandescents had ceased. Do you know if halogen downlights be effected in this eventual changeover? I do not know much about these except that there is a transformer in the roof and that they use a low wattage.

I do not want to change especially if what I have now is better.


Happy Australia Day
res

Originally posted by wycky
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"It'll be illegal to sell a product that doesn't meet [an energy efficiency] standard, so that will happen by 2009 [or] 2010," Turnbull told ABC radio in Australia. "So by that stage, you simply won't be able to buy incandescent light bulbs because they won't meet the energy standard."

Source

Hmmmmm....

Seems there is not such thing as freedom of choice anymore. Not happy Jan. My name is resistancia...I shall resist!!

Thanks for finding that info for us Aussies at ATS.


take care all
res

I may be in a minority but I replaced almost all of my bulbs with energy efficient bulbs (almost two years ago) and I'm fine. I've experienced nothing weird whatsoever, my electric bill is about a hundred dollars less than my neighbors thanks to them, and the energy efficient appliances I own I'm sure help as well.



[edit on 26-1-2009 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

ive got 2 of the cfl's in my house here but im not happy about it. and i have noticed an increase in headaches since the globes have been in. damn australian government

[edit on 25-1-2009 by Mad_Orangutan]

Yeah, well, I change out tons of these fluorescents in our buildings every month. We don't have a CFL recycler, so they go in the landfill.

I prefer my tungstens too, especially for bench work and reading. But they outlawed the TV airwaves* and auctioned them off to the cell phone companies. So if they can take public TV airspace from the people, then they can take away our light. They already took away my septic, so now I dump whatever down the drain.

I try to tell people they really don't save that much, what with the amount of energy/resources that goes into making them, and how often we have to change them out (almost as frequent as regulars), but folks don't listen because they believe its new and improved.

Well, new world. Get used to it, I suppose. And the poor bastard that does time for smuggling incandescents can come work for me changing out CFLs and flourescents. There is a lot more coming!

*btw, the new digital signals don't bounce. So folks out of direct line of site of the towers are gonna get zip for a signal.

Well after reading this I thought I'd get out the EMF reader.
I checked each of the energy bulbs in the house and I was pleased to find no bulbs above 0.2.

I had bought a brand new little plug in LED night light the other day, it cost $8 so I figured it was a good one.
Plugged in it reads consitently above 22. Yikes.

Even worse, I have one of those fake fireplaces, you know the electric ones with fake flames. Well, it is measuring consistenly above 59.
Once I read the TV is at 32 I stopped.
No wonder I feel like crap, although at this point it would be hard to pinpoint any one thing to blame.

These energy saving fluorescent bulbs are not good in my household. My wife hears a high whining pitch from them all and I do not want anymore of them. There's others that we can use, but they are very weak and do not allow for true colors when looking at paints for my paintings. Anyway, I have been stockpiling incandescent bulbs for quite some time now. The GE Reveal bulbs give me the best light for painting, so that my paintings actually make sense when seen in daylight. But, in the end, I will have to resort to these energy savings bulbs and will have to create an intricate color chart for reference so what I paint looks acceptable in daylight.

There is one point that I did not see in all the posts.
The only place these are made is CHINA!

Since when have they ever given us something safe?

We just bought some LED's for can lights above the sink in the Kitchen from Sam's club. Love them. They will last longer than any bulbs.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
The old filament bulbs are going to be outlawed soon. You will only be able to buy these florescents because they say " they save the environment".

I guess our power is dirty here. I can't get the CFL bulbs to last more than 3 months. Also in my area of New MExico we just got a place to recycle the bulbs and they've been selling them for 3 years here.
I'm opting away from the CFL's and switching to LED bulbs instead. They don't seems to have the burnout problem. They use much less energy, are cool to the touch, and the color temp can be matched to the old bulbs. Yes they are still a little pricey now, but they've come down a lot in the last six months.
When your local govt starts trying to mandate CFL's it's a good time to educate them about the LED options. I've even found LED replacements for the longs flourecent tubes too!

Check this out, I thought this was widespread..

www.youtube.com...

I am especially impressed with the EPA instructions on cleanup if you break one of these puppies:

1. Evacuate the room immediately.

2. Shut down central air or heat to avoid spreading the poisons to other rooms.

3. Open a window and air out the room for 15 minutes before returning to pick up pieces.

4. Never use a vacuum cleaner to remove pieces as this will fill the air with poisons that go through the machine and into the air. (To remove from carpet they suggest using wide tape - maybe the same duck tape they wanted us to seal off our doors incase of a terrorist attack?)

here is complete official E.P.A. site instructions:
www.epa.gov...

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Well at least I wasnt the only one that felt like something was wrong with these MERCURY FILLED BULBS. Ill stick with Thomas Edisons thank you!

Stock up boys and girls. I just took two of them out of my kitchen and replaced them. Dont these companys know what mercury does to you??!!

Get rid of them folks they are not good for you as you can tell. And if companys do not want to answer questions well thats a red flag!

Its all about greed and power and money!!!

My dad bought me 200 dollars worth of these bulbs when I bought my house.
They ran 10 bucks a piece. Well, three have already burned out. One burned out as soon as I turned the light on. What a waste of money.

They also give me a headache. I use them only for porch lights, or lights in rooms I barley use.

I recently found out about this too. I have been looking at videos and doing some research. I would recommend some LED bulbs. I like the EvoLux Series from the EarthLed brand. I am going to buy some soon. Another thing i discovered is some protection from EMFs and other things. Their are several brands out their. Qlink, bioprotechnology, bioelectricshield, and others I still don't know about. I saw videos and read some information. I'm falling towards the bioelectricshield more than the others.

Part 1 of 3 Dr. David Getoff, BioElectric Shield experience and success with patients.

www.youtube.com...


Part 2 of 3 David Getoff BioElectric Shield experience and success with patients.

www.youtube.com...


Part 3 of 3 David Getoff BioElectric Shield experience and success with patients.

www.youtube.com...


These are the only videos I have seen about someone actually testing some of these things and talking about it. I have not yet searched hard enough to see what people wrote about it in other websites. I have read reviews of some of these products on places you can purchase them. Some say they feel it works some say they don't work. I will continue researching and make my decision.

I am 100% sure that the headaches that people get are because of the high pitch SOUND they emit and/or the flickering of the light. The sound and the flicker rate are too rapid for your conscious mind to notice, but the subconscious mind sees it and is over loaded by it. It has very little to nothing to do with "dirty energy" or EMF or anything like that, you get more from cellphones, cell/radio towers, CB radios. Sure, we don't know the full effects of EMF but we get more from other sources other then CFL's but thats not why people get headaches from them.

I think you'll find alot of people who need glasses or have astigmatsim get those type of headaches from CFL's and some fast paced firstperson shooter games.

The reason that normal filament bulbs do not do this is because the filament never cools down and thus, never flickers. It also doesn't make sound and if it does, its 60hertz and you can detect it.

Never use a vacuum cleaner to remove pieces as this will fill the air with poisons that go through the machine and into the air. (To remove from carpet they suggest using wide tape - maybe the same duck tape they wanted us to seal off our doors in-case of a terrorist attack?)

Any vacuum with a HEPA filter can be used to vacuum up the mercury safely.

every one needs a vacuum with a HEPA filter.
A HEPA filter in a vacuum is the greatest way to protect your self from allergies toxic dust and mold spores.
when you vacuum your home with a regular vacuum these allergy, mold and toxic dusts are just blown back into the air and are not trapped in the vacuum.

this is what we used at the fire department i worked at to clean up mercury spills.

I use LED bulbs my self
www.ccrane.com...
www.fool.com...

these use even less energy the CLFs

wow, this could explain a LOT for me. My wife started suffering from migraines right after we switched to those bulbs. Maybe it was because of these bulbs. She also has an autoimmune disease, and it, too, became worse. We never really put 2 and 2 together until I read this. Thank you for finding this and sharing. I think we all need to know the risks of these bulbs. (wonder what other "green" items are potentially dangerous...)

~S&F~

Well I usually try to add something to a thread, but have nothing to add here except a sincere thanks to MA for posting this. S&F

I jumped on that bandwagon years ago, and have all CFL's in my house everywhere. No real bad ill effects here, but I don't have them in lamps, because I rarely use any. They are all in the ceiling fixtures, so the distance away from them may help keep me out of those fields. One thing that bugs me about them is they won't fit in some fixtures and lamps especially when it's a covered fixture. You might get the bulb in, but now try putting the glass cover back on. :shk: Nope.

Yeah, I wanna pay extra to have a dangerous bulb that emits an annoying buzz and the most depressing fluorescent hue all the while funding a bogus environmental movement put together by hippies in part of the largest marketing scams in all of global brainwashing history.

Sure, sign me up!

So to sum up those 2 videos.
.The only "dirty light bulbs" are the CFLs,which emit UV radiation because of the mercury.They can give us headaches & skin rashes.Although some have UV protective covers.
.While the old bulbs are less efficient,but does not emit UV radiation.
.Then the LED bulbs are even more efficient than the CFLs AND doesn't contain mercury.
.Governments in some countries are banning the sales of the old bulbs,while they give out mostly the CFL bulbs and not the LED ones?
.It seems more dangerous if you sit close to the CFLs.

I got to say finding this thread was almost perfect timing since I was planning to get some new light bulbs.
So to be safer...I could choose the CFLs with the UV protective covering OR LEDs OR buy the old fashion light bulbs(making my electric bill go up).