Summoning demons/spirits

reply to post by PsionicGamer


A bible? Really? I believe that someone has watched way to many movies! If demons are indeed true, then they are certain to be MUCH OLDER than any written book. And a cross won't be of much help either (well, no more than a rock or a coin that someone believes to be of holy origin). You would do much better with a protective symbol like a pentacle (whose origins are from 18,000+ years ago- and don't confuse a pentacle with the drivel Hollywood spews forth).

From the ancient texts I have studied (yes, I truly have a Doctorate of Anthropology), the only way of summoning a demon is to work an extremely difficult and onerous ritual. As for controlling a summoned demon, that is as simple as overpowering it (simple?!). This being said, one would require many years of study and training to accomplish this. If you are not willing to put in the time, might I suggest a dog. They are pretty easy to control (true, you will still have to put in time training said dog too!).

Just a suggestion. One is always welcome to do some research on summoning. There are some fantastic Sumerian, Egyptian, Gaelic and Celtic texts on this. Do your research throughly. Most of what you find will be a sham.

Prof. Jackson
UCSD school of Anthropology

reply to post by mcs1627


I must tell you that from PERSONAL experience you do not want to go messing with something like this. Especially since you obviously dont know what you are doing.
I am not saying that you dont have the right, but perhaps that you should find someone well versed in these things before you go fooling around and get one angry with you. Contrary to popular belief they can and will pick you up throw you attack you and do what ever they can to hurt you if you tick them off. If that doesnt work they will stick to you like glue and attempt to drive you nuts by constantly trying to scare you by throwing stuff at you and trying to hurt anyone you care about. IT ISNT FUN TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE THINGS.
Get some study under your belt and find someone who knows what they are doing! Before you go and dip into this.

Again Like Intrepid OP I am a lot older and wiser than many who post on ATS.

No disrespect there to anyone, just these matters are more serious than many realise I feel.

Please take from this thread the information you feel is from personal experience and knowledge, and not just reading one book or two or a couple of years of dabbling.

Please if you care for your Mental Health and for those around you in this and your next lives

Do Not Do This Without Knowing It First!

Without first reading the salient, honest, experienced and true experiences of those who have witnessed or taken part in these activities first.

Then think on it for a long time first, THERE IS NO GOING BACK ONCE DONE unless you really know what you are doing.

I will not go into great detail about what I have seen within this part of life, because as pointed out they are "Thought Forms" in fact that is the key.

ALL IS MIND & THOUGHTS , some in the material plane like you and me, and some not.

By me going into depth about What I Have Witnessed, it is a thought of summoning within itself giving it power.

Let's just say I witnessed a very traumatic and long lasting event for several people in my teens.

I am just on the good side of 40ish now and IT STILL AFFECTS THOSE WHO TRIED THIS! All these years later.

I Promise you there are real dangers, this is not Harry Potter my friend.


Infact have you ever thought how a single parent (JK Rowling) who was on the poverty line, dabbling in magic, with no money living in a council flat, crying out and making pacts promises, got to be the highest paid author of all time in a period of less than 1 year?

Think on that, a whole generation of children attracted to the occult, not seeing any of the dangers and truth of it, being encouraged to cast spells and summon, practise magic WITH NONE OF THE YEARS OF TRAINING THAT IS REQUIRED WITH GUIDANCE FROM A GURU/MASTER TO MAKE IT SAFE AND CONTROLLABLE.

I know how that happened, and the prose is not that good in the books either, to justify it, she is being rewarded richly in money now, but it is short lived trust me.

Now before you drive a car unless you have lessons and are observed doing it, with DUAL CONTROLS by an INSTRUCTOR you will crash.

Period, full stop, but the A&E can’t help you here and it may have repercussions for you for more time than our Mind in this body now can comprehend, or conceive my friend.

One thing to be aware of is this too, in the practise of this sort of magic.

It takes a LOT OF ENERGY TIME AND INTELLECTUAL UNDERSTANDING to do this.

I know I am right in saying this; you would want this help to either Protect, Avenge or Gain for yourself.

If you place the same amount of time and energy and learning required to POSITIVE change in your life, well then
Your will, will be done but with none of the negativities and long term impacts.

If it is for protection against someone physically learn martial arts no?

If it is for Gain, set your goal of what you want, and work towards it both on the physical plane, and also instead of visualising Demons, Grim ores, Entities use it to see yourself achieving it in lucky, good for all way,

You don’t have to cheat, fight, subjugate, and control others to get your desires my friend.

I have had a very varied Career in my life spanning several disciplines. I used to work within the very extreme end of mental health Psychiatry.

I CANNOT EMPHASISE ENOUGH THE MENTAL ANGUISH, PAIN, SUFFERING & MADNESS and CRIMES COMMITTED by those who have dabbled in this. Now professionally at the time, I would have to agree with the diagnosis, hallucinations etc, to my colleagues.

Would have been in a secure unit myself sharply if I said otherwise :-)

However due to my earlier experience as mentioned above, I knew that a number of those Clients were not just having those experiences due to a chemical or DNA makeup, or reactive emotional response to life events, not all of them but a significant proportion.

I also knew this from my lifelong Spiritual Growth and learning to include what many talk about here.

YOU RISK MADNESS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING really and honestly.

Also the only way to get your desire is to bring back your locus of control to yourself, to realise your own power, and not to give it away to another mind.

If you do then even if your desires are met, you have convinced yourself on a very deep and powerful way subconsciously that "Things out there" can harm, control and affect others and yourself.

So you do it works but then you loose your own power, and are you going to have to summon a demon for every situation in your life?

If you truly believe that "you" can summon these entities then, then you must accept that your mind and thoughts connection to the non material, well why wouldn't you be calling on the good?
On Angels?
on positive glad spirits?
Depending on your beliefs and religion, hey Elves if you want
Seems obvious which way to go to happiness and rewards no?

Also all you experience now, your reason for this entities help, if its peace of mind, pleasure at revenge or gain... well isn’t it just easier to control your own mind first? Otherwise this apparent success if granted will be replaced by another one immediately yes?

I am not trying to tell you not to do this, but please as asked think on it as said, you have free will and its your choice, for me to say YOU CANT YOU MUSNT is the same as actually calling the entities themselves, but I still do say this with warning and as above PLEASE KNOW what you are doing first.

To put forward for you some others, who support my words in the post above who know so much more than myself, though I have studied, and practised daily for decades now, take this on board not lightly.

I will only use info from those that are at the top of their field in this issue, mainly Magic, Thought forms, Mind and mind powers.

Not Sunday or evening dabblers my friend, and if only they knew the time it sometimes takes for the "Blowback" to occur for our thoughts and actions.

• The Intellectual Understanding Needed and Study First Under Supervision To Control & Manipulate These Forces Safely

The ages-old occult training colleges were known for generations as the mystery schools, which can be found today hidden beneath the symbolism (elf this was done, that is the tarot created to preserve the magic teachings when repressed by Catholicism in its reign of the world at the time) of the Tarot cards, are the same mysteries as taught by the classical, Egyptian and Chaldean occult schools of yore (Elf-in ages gone by) ....
(Elf SNIP very long historical context of persecution of magic practice)
Contd....
The Four Levels of Understanding

The greater mysteries represent 22 key tenets or principles of esoteric philosophy. Unless the occult student is aware of every one of these 22 tenets, he or she is likely to fall in some error and sever consequences on the magical path. Either the student will misapply what has been learnt in such a way as to render all the effort and time worthless, or unwanted or unpleasant effects will be precipitated with results either vaguely amusing or Tragic for the practitioner him or herself.

Each of those 22 tenets are then further subdivided into four "states" as in Rabbi (Elf Moses/Solomon etc) knowledge known as comprehensions...
(SNIP elf I wont put this out there on display :-)
...contd One can grasp the first comprehension oneself with much practise and usually around a year of daily practice.. (Snip....)
The second levels unless the student is very gifted, need then a teacher for guidance and many practitioners never progress above this lesser level of magic into the higher following levels of the (snip....)

“Magic” Tony Willis – ISBN 0-85030-625-6 Printed 1983 pages 26-28




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Contd....

Get the drift? trust me very much on one thing, all demon and entity and Grim ore manifestation, bidding and calling NEEDS TOTAL MASTERY OF LEVEL 4 for control of the entity, so you control it and not vice versa!

Manifest away the darkest demon of your choice OP but to do it safely you will not be in a position to do so for many years to come yet.

22 tenets and four levels of understanding for each tenet!

Now after doing this they then had to learn the four elemental, being earth air wind & water, (which are different and on top of the four comprehensions mentioned in the quote above) and had to choose one path of these, to study after their initial degree as described above, very few got to learn all four paths! Only a handful had total mastery of the tenets, comprehensions, element’s Moses, Solomon etc.

Even Alistair Crowley (who the author worked with on occasions but stopped contact as he thought his magic and desires very dangerous) was no where near knowing this totally, that is why he died in poverty, alone and nearly totally insane.


Google OP Alistair Crowley, he was supposed to be the most powerful magician of the last 200 years, but he was mad, broke and alone for most of his life, and had some short lived success, for all his study, all his practise, as he was doing what you want, trying to control others, or selfish personal gain and calling entities for his bidding, but could not control them!

Remember you have to sleep my friend!

• If You Only Create A Thought form And Not Even Summon A Separate From Your Own Conscious Entity You Will Still Not Be Able To Control It.

Tulpas, are thought forms in the ancient Indian and Tibetan magical and Yogic practises.
You know created by Fakirs, Yogis with years and years of practise of controlling their minds, having strong willpower and with ancient lineages of wisdom on these matters, being passed on by teachers.

So you and others reading this may believe these things it's best to look at it from a western point of view.

Mystic, anarchist, occultist and traveller, Louise Eugenie Alexandrine Marie David was born in Paris, on the 24th of October 1868.

In 1911 she undertook her second voyage to India, and arrived at Pondicherry - all that remained of French India - where the police kept an eye on her due to her extremist tendencies. By 1912 Alexandra was living in Calcutta, where on one occasion, annoyed by the behaviour of fakirs, she lay down on a bed of nails, and explained to a passing British tourist that she needed a rest and was lucky to find a bed. She also took part in Tantric rites,

(elf after many years of training with hermits, meeting dalai llama etc then again after many years of study OP and being able to lay on a bed of nails can you????)
The Creation of a Tulpa

At Kum Bum she managed to create a 'tulpa', a phantom produced by intense concentration of thought and the repetition of relevant mystical rites over a period of months. She created a stout, phantom monk, whose form gradually became less ghost like and more life like. Before long the phantasm was accompanying her on her travels and behaving almost like a normal human being. However, he gradually began to change from a fat, jolly monk into a leaner more sinister character, and started to escape from her control. The tulpa was seen by others in her travelling party, proving it to have an objective existence outside of Alexandra's own mind, but, to avoid serious problems with her creation, Alexandra decided to 'dissolve' it. But this proved extremely difficult as the phantom clung desperately on to his life; she only succeeded in getting rid of him after six months of hard mental concentration.

Source

Getting the drift yet?

If you create it, or summon one you had better really really really know what you are doing and be very adept at meditating already!

Here is also for your information an recording of an actual exorcism of someone who either was or believed they were controlled by a demon, it does not matter if they were right or wrong, by dabbling with your request my friend you could easily create the belief that you have, and that's enough for you to maybe if not careful experience this:
Footage from the Real Exorcism of Anneliese Michel *extremely disturbing*

So your choice and will - will be done my friend, if you decide to take the right path and not to pursue this anymore, because believe it or not you do have a very very limited amount of negative attention now on this plane now and in that one you wish to summon from by just posting this Query/Op I would say the best thing to do is the following.

Take 10 minutes each morning, sit, relax, breath just count your breath, feel it coming up through your nose over your head and down your body filling you with either Gold Light, Bright White Light or Sky Blue Light, and as you breath out imagine all your stress strain, worries, lacks, blocks negativity totally leaving from all parts of your body, either through your breath as dark breath, or as a dark waxy substance leaving all of your body through your pores on your breathing out.

Think and feel too, Love, Health, Luck, protection, Abundance as you breath in, Freedom, Peace release as you breath out.

Create a Happy you and not an nasty them eh?

Simple but very effective my friend and will only bring no danger, only good.


May your Spirit Guides protect you and guide you in your time of need, to realise the Power within you to create light out of any darkness you have now my friend.

I will be careful how I put this, you would be surprised I think some on ATS who, and what is done with some of the posts on here, but let's just say if you have not yet done your request, you are being protected and helped now, if you have well you are on your own my friend.

Love and Light.

Elf.


[edit on 29-10-2008 by MischeviousElf]

Bumpty Bump,

Op are you ok?

Let us know your thoughts and actions eh?

Regards,

Love light and protection 4 u

Elf.

Originally posted by Catfish
number one, Im sure its against the law (satanism or whatever)

You obviously never heard of the 1st Amendment in the U.S. Constitution. It mentions something called FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

Oh, and by the way, summoning demons or sprits of any kind is never a good idea. Demons are supernatural, sometimes non-human entities that have the capability to destroy life as you know it.

And, another thing, "keeping it simple" can't always perform a task.

Originally posted by OkamiZaku
Oh, and by the way, summoning demons or sprits of any kind is never a good idea. Demons are supernatural, sometimes non-human entities that have the capability to destroy life as you know it.

And, another thing, "keeping it simple" can't always perform a task.

No, no-one knows if demons even exist, let alone what they are. Please label wild-ass guesses as such, so those who are here to learn can actually do so without being deceived.

reply to post by Xenographer


Thank God you stepped in. I was reading post after post thinking, "why doesn't someone tell them the real deal?

This stuff isn't a game. It isn't entertainment. It isn't to be messed with. You open that door, and you have no idea what's behind it. And it sometimes can't be closed. There are some rooms that we should never enter. This is one of those rooms!

You'd be much better off finding another solution to your problem.

Originally posted by dave420

Originally posted by OkamiZaku
Oh, and by the way, summoning demons or sprits of any kind is never a good idea. Demons are supernatural, sometimes non-human entities that have the capability to destroy life as you know it.

And, another thing, "keeping it simple" can't always perform a task.

No, no-one knows if demons even exist, let alone what they are. Please label wild-ass guesses as such, so those who are here to learn can actually do so without being deceived.

You keep thinking that.

reply to post by OkamiZaku


You show me actual scientific evidence to the contrary, and I'll believe.

Don't be ignorant. If something can't be demonstrated with factual evidence, why on earth do you believe it? You might be doing something incredibly wrong - you're wandering around in a world, which if it exists, you know nothing about for certain. You, and those like you, are making it up as you go along, with no evidence to back you up. You have all the hallmarks of scientific investigators, but none of the objectivity.

You will learn NOTHING definite by carrying on down this path.

reply to post by JustAnIllusion


honestly i think that they are like people, each one varies, i agree that some may be seriously pissed and might try to do something about it, but some might actually try to help you, if only to get back to where they were faster lol.

now i dont want to incourage you or anything but there are binding spells that could help, some only temporarily, so be careful

reply to post by Rhyakath


Do you have more info on Darcons I can read about? I think I would like to host.

I would suggest looking up "The Triangle Of Solomon". It is your responsibility to know what you are doing and to be wise with what you do. I do not tell you to do this only how some claim to accomplish this. I won't publish details you'll have to do that legwork yourself.

Now, first of all....for W.H.A.T reason would you want to summon a "demon"? If demons were real, they would kill your ass in a second....man if this is what weed does, i'm not touching it.....you are all a cornicopia of dip#s....i would recommend not touching your moms medicine cabinet, and finding someone that loves you, or get laid, or something.....damn....here's a site that might help you though....www.tube8.com...its my favorite site.....have a bottle of lotion ready, and maybe you will summon a demon....*hint* it will be white

Originally posted by mcs1627
Does anyone here know how to summon demons/spirits and ask them to help you??? (please only 'rituals' that are simple, and don't require any hard to find items)

There is no simple rituals that require little or no work or effort . For the preparation leading up to the ritual is in fact the most important aspect of the ritual , it is all about prepping your mind , creating the right conditions to have such an experience .

I must point out that I have never taken part in any such type of magic but I have devoted a fair amount of time researching this very topic and do have in my possession many books on this topic . But I make no claim to be an expert .

I urge the author of this topic to reconsider their objectives. The belief that you can order around a being older than the Earth is obsurd. You're only asking for trouble!

Trust me, many cases I've investigated, that were demonic in nature, started with summoning the forces of satan.

I don't believe in this stuff, but I'm going to attempt summoning a Goetic demon going by ritual information I have read about and seen. I think it will be a fun activity.

Do what you will, but understand the possible consequences that may result from doing that.

reply to post by laiguana


fun,yeah go ahead then...be very careful though as it will mess with your mind..and if you are still sane and around after you have summoned your demon,please let us all know your experiances.....you are very brave is all I can say,as I would be far too scared to ever try to summon something I know nothing about....