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Originally posted by crowkey
Its not Obama but like JC [jimmy Carter] he might be part of Maitreyas group of world teachers [beaters] i think theres a link between M and O but they are two different people anyone know anything about a new star visible in norway
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
reply to post by daersoulkeeper
OK, I almost hate to ask. What is this new "prophesy?"
I mainly ask, because I find it useful to know what sort of code words that End Timers keep putting in their speeches. All sorts of sleazy politicos pepper their speeches with these terms to curry favor with evangelicals.
Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
reply to post by daersoulkeeper
OK, I almost hate to ask. What is this new "prophesy?"
I mainly ask, because I find it useful to know what sort of code words that End Timers keep putting in their speeches. All sorts of sleazy politicos pepper their speeches with these terms to curry favor with evangelicals.
you make cheap God and misunderstand this entire topic
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
The people I've been hearing "Obama is the anti-c" from are usually people who voted for Bush.
Wow. They voted for the most Godless miscreant that America has produced, and because he has a phony drawl (when of course, he was raised in the NorthEast and went to Ivy League schools), and peppers his speeches with Left Behind code words, they are just so damn excited someone is paying them some attention.
they don't seem to notice, that they get used all the time, to push for Robber Baron policies.
I notice that the people on welfare are Greedy, yet CEOs who make $30,000 an hour are "earning it." But hey, give to the Poor, or God -- don't notice that your preacher drives a nice stretch mercedes, and doesn't support people who push for Welfare or safety nets. Much better to have desperate people begging for charity.
One of my personal heros, and the most ethical person I know, Jimmy Carter, gets slammed by these same people. Everyone I know who is self-sacrificing, and smart, and noble, seems to get slammed by these by these same people when I rarely see any of them making the world a better place. Perhaps they target the afterlife a bit too much.
I'm sure that JC, when he talked about give to those who have little, would be called a dirty hippy.
I don't see anything of real merit from the NeoCons, and they seem to be the predominant group comprising all these folks with their biblical prophesies. They should quit scanning the text for numerical truths and get back to being good Christians. Really folks, the King James bible was highly edited and for that matter, it's been translated into English -- there is no possible way for you to actually KNOW what all these divine nuances mean. The Bible? Not unless you are reading it in Greek from the Dead Sea Scrolls. Or was it ancient Hebrew. OK, the New Testament was in Greek. Do you see a pattern here? There are nuances that CANNOT be translated perfectly, and yet, all these prophesies rely on nuance.
Take the phrase "though shalt not suffer an Witch to live" -- the original term actually meant "oath breaker" -- one language had two meanings and someone chose the wrong one. But it was used to kill a lot of women pushing homeopathy. The inquisition itself, was started because the king of Spain got in debt to Jewish Bankers and it was a good way not to have to pay them back. I'm sure they found a lot of passages to justify the twisting of bodies and hot pokers.
Crooks want people to abandon reason and use "faith" to follow absolutist nonsense. Every move towards fascism pushes people into extreme beliefs -- it doesn't really matter what they believe, as long as it supersedes their logic. When you believe "revealed truths" more than your own eyes -- you are usually a very effective tool.
I don't know for sure, how GOOD Obama is. I have to wait an see if I agree with his policies. But unless someone has a DAMN GOOD prophesy, I'm really going to have to go with my own logic center, housed conveniently between my two shoulders.
Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
Your entire argument is null and void when you claim to not cheapen God but give no recognition that Jesus (Gods only son) was sent here to give his life for you. If you do not acknowledge this as completely real, you cheapen God, because if you do not believe that is real, you will not believe every word in the bible, so sir. You cheapen God.
there are a pluthra of prophecies about this subject and im not going to get into them because this is not the subject matter of this topic. its obvious from your tone and your new age mentality that we can all fix the world with logic and reasoning that you cheapen the true plan of humanity, by giving yourself complete power you are weak pitiful and blind.
no doubt your next response will be vitriolic so i move on to others posts and let the topic simmer to stay afloat.
Originally posted by Crabmeat
reply to post by Chance321
didn't read too much, yet, this is in response to Chance's 1st comment on the thread.
I agree totally. In complete synchronization.
People's fanaticism with Obama really has me worried. This plague is really prominent with the youth. These people's dissatisfaction with the current state of the world, both physically (economy, health, terrorism, global warming, aids etc.) and spiritually (lies, murder, drugs, madness, indifference etc.) are placing Obama on a pedestal, where their hopes of a better life should be. In turn, Obama is idolized by these insatiable people.
Does anybody even understand what sort of power, TRUE POWER, is gained through such practice? Why do you think Moses, and Jesus, are famous religious figures?
This is dangerous... and everybody should be aware and even careful of the Obama fanatics.