- Documented Proof - Maitreya Has Arrived - He is Obama! Along with a Surprise Ending - Nibiru

because my advertising is as good as all the brainwashing fed to you by obama, i trade fire for fire. eye for eye. time to put the puzzle pieces together before we die with lies.


www.telegraph.co.uk...

and hey if im wrong atleast i got you thinking and watching alittle closer, i may disagree with myself in a year but the watchers must watch eh.

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Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
because my advertising is as good as all the brainwashing fed to you by obama, i trade fire for fire. eye for eye. time to put the puzzle pieces together before we die with lies.


www.telegraph.co.uk...

2 blind guys....thats all youre creating.



there is no DOCUMENTED PROOF to be seen in this thread... more like WRITTEN LIES...

Its absolutely mind boggling how many misconceptions people have about the world we live in...this is not to say that my own perception is flawless...but I like to research and base my conclusions on hard facts (this is not to say that any of you care about how I come to my conclusions and what I like). Although this website is dedicated to promote discussion and deny ignorance...I'd say 80% of the people posting on this site have no clue what they are talking about in relation to evidence/hard facts and history. I must admit there are some bright minds on this forum...it just really tilts me when people claim something to be 100% real!!! or..."DOCUMENTED PROOF!!!"...and then I have to debunk it with simple logic/rhetoric because it has no rational basis behind it.
This being said...it is quite amusing to deny ignorance and further my study of the society we live in.

Originally posted by GlossomBoodchild
reply to post by sezsue

 

LOL! That is who you quote??? Michael Hoffman??? Link to his wikipedia entry :
en.wikipedia.org...

He is a holocaust denier. Do you also deny the holocaust....Michael Hoffman's credibility immediately goes out the window..and it is a disgrace that you quoted him. Grow up. Is it really true that most people on here do not do any research? I thought this was about denying ignorance. We have people claiming here that there was NO bible ANYWHERE in the room...based off of one photo which doesnt even show his left hand....we have people quoting a man who denies the Holocaust happened...we have people immediately assuming based on my name that I believe in aliens....wow.
Very Interesting.

LOL! I guess it must be really true that SOME people on here do not do any research! Maybe you read the first line of the wikipedia entry,

Michael Anthony Hoffman II, (born 1954, New York), is an American conspiracy theorist[1] and holocaust denier,

But obviously you didn’t bother to scroll down and read the rest of the entry, because if you did, you would have seen this part,

“Views on the Holocaust
Hoffman doubts that execution gas chambers existed in the Nazi camp Auschwitz-Birkenau, and claims that the term "Holocaust" is Orwellian Newspeak [7] imposed beginning circa 1978 in order to confuse and distract from debates about the numbers of Jewish deaths that can be attributed to Nazism. Hoffman doubts that six million Jews were killed by the Nazis and asserts that most of the Jewish deaths in WWII were from typhus, malnutrition and shootings perpetrated by some units of the SS on the Eastern front.” (more follows but my Microsoft Works Word Processor would not let me paste the info, go to and read for yourself, thanks.)

Have YOU read any articles by Michael Hoffman? I have. Am I a Holocaust denier? NO….but I do think there may be questions about the official accepted account, because I have read quite a bit on this subject.

And, even if Michael Hoffman IS a holocaust denier, how does that apply to the article I quoted regarding whether or not a Bible was used on the second oath? Are you saying none of his articles could be true or have any validity because SOME people refer to him as a holocaust denier????

(By the way, while I was writing this and excerpting from the wikipedia article, my program stopped working about 10 times while I was trying to paste some info from wikipedia, due to the Data Execution Prevention (DEP) which “is a security feature that can help prevent damage to your computer from viruses and other security threats. Harmful programs can try to attack Windows by attempting to run (also known as execute) code from system memory locations reserved for Windows and other authorized programs. These types of attacks can harm your programs and files.”, and the “Tip of the Day” read “ You can quickly undo recent changes you made to your document”. Guess the PTB didn’t like what I was writing! LOL!)

A replica of the Altar of Zeus?

I don't think I've read more scraping of the barrel to get a conspiracy theory. ATS is often amusing, often interesting -- but this one is neither.

You know people by their actions. I haven't seen anything bad that Obama has done or supported.

Now, there may be people working around the clock to find anagrams, numerology of his birthday and his name, and finding that the average lectern and stage layout from a million other political rallies somehow seems more ominous, with Obama standing in front of it.

If Obama ever does something I really don't like -- it will be hard to notice because there will be a mountain of this garbage floating around. Democrats supported Clinton defensively, and while we were defending him from Kenneth Starr's stupid witch hunt -- which cleared him of EVERY CHARGE, we missed that he was ending Glass Stegal, removing supports for Welfare, and passing NAFTA. So, in our own terms, we should have been harder on Clinton for NOT being a Democrat.

It's hard to know if some of these people are in earnest, closet racists trying to justify it with a hodgepodge of obscure, ill fitting biblical references, or if these people are provocateurs working for some damn think tank to make sure that Obama is not successful -- so they can put another Robber Baron free market puppet like George Bush in power -- as if our economy and world could survive that.


I'm sure that if there is some Satanic power, he would surround himself with bibles and requisite thumpers, so he could do evil and disparage the church. Oh, and I'm sure that ending torture Gulags, is evil, because a Democrat did it. Right?

Judge people by what they do -- not by these stupid symbolic references. Man this is lame in the extreme.

Originally posted by daersoulkeeper
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God Bless - the end (our new beginning) is near - let yourselves not be deceived the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ our Lord -

Could it be this planet resides our lords kingdom and his arrival will be seen as a enemy alien invasion because of the great deception coming on the world? Could this be why the world turns against God at the battle of Armageddon? (they turn against him because they do not PERCEIVE him to be GOD...their eyes see a alien invasion... they are deceived...) We will see.

Matthew 24: 27
"For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be."

[edit on 25-1-2009 by daersoulkeeper]

Documented proof huh? The Bible is likely the most forged document of all time. I have nothing against Christianity. In fact I strive to live the teachings of Jesus. However, I feel 99% of most Christians aren't clever enough to think for themselves and realize the truth that their beliefs are the product of social conditioning from their parents and peers, and not divine intervention. Living the teachings is one thing. Believing in the Bible to the letter makes sheep out of men.

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Okay, here is some proof from the latest edition of share International to support the fact that Benjamin Creme himself makes a clear distinction between MAITREYA and OBAMA while at the same time clearly IMPLYING Obama is somehow inspired by him....or will be at any rate :

QUOTE:Q. Much, perhaps too much, is expected of the new American President. Do you think the world is being too optimistic? Barak Obama is expected to solve the major current world crises: the economic crisis, the environment, unemployment, collapsing industries, growing homelessness, rising poverty, conflict in the Middle-East and terrorism. Surely such a task would take a superman to get to grips with?

A. Absolutely true. Luckily, we do have a superman who really can show us the way to solve these problems – His name is Maitreya. The rest is up to us. We have to make the right decisions in the light of Maitreya’s ideas. Obama could be a decisive voice for a ‘new’ America – co-operative and willing to listen to others – in the world.

Q. The elections and the prospect of a new era in US politics with Barak Obama as President seems to have lifted the spirits of Americans and many others around the world. Do you expect a new phase of moderation and negotiation instead of warmongering?

A. Yes. He probably would not immediately withdraw from Iraq or Afghanistan, but as soon as possible, whatever that means; but we can look forward to dealing with a President who does not seem to speak or act from ideological demagogy, who is empirical and moderate and who has a very sick country to restore to health. He has this in his favour – Maitreya and His vision, energy and love. What an example for him to follow!

PLEASE PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO CREMES ENDING WORDS THERE: " He (Obama) has this in his favour - Maitreya and his vision, energy and love. What an EXAMPLE for him to follow"

Clearly Obama and Maitreya are two different people. It would be easy to miss this if one just read the press releases and had read little from Share International/Creme. It's coindidental timing Obama has stepped onto the world stage though from Creme's viewpoint maybe not, as Obama seems to fit in nicely with Maitreya's new vision for the world. Obama has come out talking justice and peace just around the same time Maitreya is expected. But they aren't one and the same........

source for the above quotes, interview with Benjamin Creme

Just some personal questions..

How does it feel to prove identity of Maitreya? Exciting? Sad?

Are you afraid? And what kind of precautions have you taken if He seeks to silence the truth? (not posting from home computer etc..?)

Thanks.

ps. remember He has more power now, so be carefull what you reveal

I take special pleasure in watching all you Religious Doomsdayers fall flat on your faces when you're wrong. The best part is watching you passively explain yourselves in the face of indisputable facts:

You were WRONG about Y2K and the world ending.

You were WRONG about 2008's August Alien Invasion

You will be WRONG about 2012 and the world ending

You will be wrong about Maitreya as well.

Wake up.

Think for yourself. have some dignity.


If you want to think paranoid thats your business, however, dont complain when your peers start drinking the red kool-aid.

Its NOT going to happen.

Ill bet $10,000 of my own personal money on it just to show you how off base these accounts are.

reply to post by daersoulkeeper


I suppose you realize Share International's site is loaded with ufo/space brother articles and that the organization is preparing people for the landing of said "space brothers" in our lifetime, to occur in the years following "the day of declaration", when the world is "ready". Share International are an NGO of the UN and openly state on their website that the UN is working on a plan to go public with the UFO thing in 2013...a rumour that has been around the net for a while and is actually stated on a website by an organization that is directly affiliated with the UN along with it's sister organization, "world Goodwill". For those of you who doubt this connectiony you'll have to wade through my other 2 threads on the subject for links and search tips but the info is ALL out there

Obama's presidency could well have been a planned event for many reasons, one of which was to further along disclosure which as everyone by now realizes has been ramping up around the globe for the past year. ..? Maitreya is touted as something along the lines of being "chief" Ascended Master".....others are to follow. Maitreya is to talk openly about UFO's and space brothers, to help prepare the world for their open presence on Earth....according to Creme they will land publicly and begin to work with humans to help save the world yada yada.

For UFO believers it might be worth pausing to consider whether or not the past few decades of mystery and intrigue are leading up to this big event and have been all along....a plan slow but sure in the unfolding .

I have my view as some of you already know, it's really worth looking into if you are interested in the topic as it puts a lot of jigsaw pieces together, as fantastic as it all sounds.......

Originally posted by sezsue

Originally posted by GlossomBoodchild
reply to post by sezsue

 

LOL! That is who you quote??? Michael Hoffman??? Link to his wikipedia entry :
en.wikipedia.org...

He is a holocaust denier. Do you also deny the holocaust....Michael Hoffman's credibility immediately goes out the window..and it is a disgrace that you quoted him. Grow up. Is it really true that most people on here do not do any research? I thought this was about denying ignorance. We have people claiming here that there was NO bible ANYWHERE in the room...based off of one photo which doesnt even show his left hand....we have people quoting a man who denies the Holocaust happened...we have people immediately assuming based on my name that I believe in aliens....wow.
Very Interesting.

LOL! I guess it must be really true that SOME people on here do not do any research! Maybe you read the first line of the wikipedia entry,

Michael Anthony Hoffman II, (born 1954, New York), is an American conspiracy theorist[1] and holocaust denier,

But obviously you didn’t bother to scroll down and read the rest of the entry, because if you did, you would have seen this part,

“Views on the Holocaust
Hoffman doubts that execution gas chambers existed in the Nazi camp Auschwitz-Birkenau, and claims that the term "Holocaust" is Orwellian Newspeak [7] imposed beginning circa 1978 in order to confuse and distract from debates about the numbers of Jewish deaths that can be attributed to Nazism. Hoffman doubts that six million Jews were killed by the Nazis and asserts that most of the Jewish deaths in WWII were from typhus, malnutrition and shootings perpetrated by some units of the SS on the Eastern front.” (more follows but my Microsoft Works Word Processor would not let me paste the info, go to and read for yourself, thanks.)

Have YOU read any articles by Michael Hoffman? I have. Am I a Holocaust denier? NO….but I do think there may be questions about the official accepted account, because I have read quite a bit on this subject.

And, even if Michael Hoffman IS a holocaust denier, how does that apply to the article I quoted regarding whether or not a Bible was used on the second oath? Are you saying none of his articles could be true or have any validity because SOME people refer to him as a holocaust denier????

(By the way, while I was writing this and excerpting from the wikipedia article, my program stopped working about 10 times while I was trying to paste some info from wikipedia, due to the Data Execution Prevention (DEP) which “is a security feature that can help prevent damage to your computer from viruses and other security threats. Harmful programs can try to attack Windows by attempting to run (also known as execute) code from system memory locations reserved for Windows and other authorized programs. These types of attacks can harm your programs and files.”, and the “Tip of the Day” read “ You can quickly undo recent changes you made to your document”. Guess the PTB didn’t like what I was writing! LOL!)

Actually I have read the whole wikipedia article on Michael Hoffman. From the looks of it he controversial at best...I can't comment further on him since I have not read any of his article (which I plan on doing when I have the time). What I can say is that rense.com (for which Michael Hoffman writes a lot)...is most likely COINTELPRO. Their whole agenda is "the evil NWO" and bla bla bla...they are also closely connected to Alex Jones...another COINTELPRO agent (I suspect). If you would like to hear why I suspect this and for me to point out to you that at least half of the alternative media is misinformation...get in touch.

reply to post by daersoulkeeper


You're quoting an interpretation of a book which is based in faith, not science.

If you want to use the word PROOF, you're going to be expected to provide real, substantive evidence to support your claim. As of now, you have not done this.

If you were only interested in providing faith based information, you should have stated that in your opening to avoid problems like this.

Originally posted by jfj123
reply to post by daersoulkeeper

 

You're quoting an interpretation of a book which is based in faith, not science.

If you want to use the word PROOF, you're going to be expected to provide real, substantive evidence to support your claim. As of now, you have not done this.

If you were only interested in providing faith based information, you should have stated that in your opening to avoid problems like this.

To the OP, the Bible IS proof. Didn't you know?

Good luck w. this thread. Don't drink the kool-aid.

Originally posted by daersoulkeeper

only to those who have no faith like yourself. dont worry im done. ill let this thread sit for a bit and get some new eyes in here not this dumb where is the proof garbage.

You brought this whole PROOF "garbage" up, not us.

You wrote, "Documented PROOF-Maitreya has arrived...."

That was your decision to use the word PROOF. Nobody forced you to use it. Now based on that, we're simply asking you to support your claim. Why is that "garbage"?

no i cannot give you a signed autograph of obama admitting he is maitreya,

Nobody asked for that. There could be many other types of legitimate evidence you could provide if you had any.

and that im sure you wouldnt believe either

Facts are facts. Why wouldn't any reasonable person believe in a supportable fact? If I said the moon orbits around the earth and I provided evidence to support that fact, why wouldn't any reasonable person believe me?

, i think you would need him to come nocking on your door and have a heart to heart talk with you about it.

Oh come on. Now you're trying to weasel out by pretending our expectations are too high and unreasonable when all we're asking you to do is show us documented proof that you claim to have.

anyways it was never my intent to prove 100%,

Then you shouldn't have put that in your opening.

it is puzzle pieces put together that leave you simply to say, hey! that right there is interesting and gets me thinking!
you people....

What you're saying is that you only wanted to provide speculative ideas. But that's not what you said you wanted to do in your opening.

Here are some ideas regarding maitreya:
Do you have any information that would give his current location?
Do you have a photo, painting, drawing of him?
Do you have any specific evidence regarding his ethnic background, gender, etc..
Do you have any information indicating the specifics of what he has done in his past and is currently doing? As in jobs, location of residence, etc..?

Originally posted by jfj123

Originally posted by daersoulkeeper

only to those who have no faith like yourself. dont worry im done. ill let this thread sit for a bit and get some new eyes in here not this dumb where is the proof garbage.

You brought this whole PROOF "garbage" up, not us.

You wrote, "Documented PROOF-Maitreya has arrived...."

That was your decision to use the word PROOF. Nobody forced you to use it. Now based on that, we're simply asking you to support your claim. Why is that "garbage"?

no i cannot give you a signed autograph of obama admitting he is maitreya,

Nobody asked for that. There could be many other types of legitimate evidence you could provide if you had any.

and that im sure you wouldnt believe either

Facts are facts. Why wouldn't any reasonable person believe in a supportable fact? If I said the moon orbits around the earth and I provided evidence to support that fact, why wouldn't any reasonable person believe me?

, i think you would need him to come nocking on your door and have a heart to heart talk with you about it.

Oh come on. Now you're trying to weasel out by pretending our expectations are too high and unreasonable when all we're asking you to do is show us documented proof that you claim to have.

anyways it was never my intent to prove 100%,

Then you shouldn't have put that in your opening.

it is puzzle pieces put together that leave you simply to say, hey! that right there is interesting and gets me thinking!
you people....

What you're saying is that you only wanted to provide speculative ideas. But that's not what you said you wanted to do in your opening.

Here are some ideas regarding maitreya:
Do you have any information that would give his current location?
Do you have a photo, painting, drawing of him?
Do you have any specific evidence regarding his ethnic background, gender, etc..
Do you have any information indicating the specifics of what he has done in his past and is currently doing? As in jobs, location of residence, etc..?

I dont think the OP gets it....

[edit on 26-1-2009 by GlossomBoodchild]

Anti-Christ = Against Christ

There are many Anti-Christ everywhere.... even here on ATS.

Remember everything you say, think & do is being monitored

and You will be held accountable.

Seek Jesus & the holy spirit NOW

while you still have some time.

tick tock tick tock....

Originally posted by cindy22761

Anti-Christ = Against Christ

There are many Anti-Christ everywhere.... even here on ATS.

Remember everything you say, think & do is being monitored

and You will be held accountable.

Seek Jesus & the holy spirit NOW

while you still have some time.

tick tock tick tock....

I see your point but you really don't have any proof of your beliefs. They are just beliefs. You were young and impressionable. You did what your parents, friends and peers told you to. You never developed enough skill to think and reason on your own, fearing they may disapprove. If you grew up in India, you'd be worshiping Vishnu. See where I'm going with this?

I do give you points for the attempt at spreading the typical Christ-fueled fear. Classic and Entertaining. Unfortunately, not very original.






[edit on 26-1-2009 by NightVision]

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I am glad you found something of interest in the book - Carole