Bill O'Reilly: Canada should be ashamed of its youth.

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
Yeah, none of this even makes mention of the fact that Oreilly's commentary was based on a bold-faced LIE that Canada isn't allowed to air Fox news.

Yup, that's a great example of fair and balanced, isn't it?

Excerpt from Broadcasting Public Notice CRTC 2004-88:

The Commission's conclusion

44.

In light of the above, the Commission is of the view that neither Fox News nor the NFL Network is partially or totally competitive with any Canadian pay or specialty service. Accordingly, the Commission approves the requests by the CCTA to add Fox News and the NFL Network to the digital lists.

My cable provider offers it, but I don't want to pay for the extra channels.

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He actually told two that I noticed. We don't have a Liberal Government, as I pointed out in my first post. And yes, Fox News is broadcast in Canada. It's on Digital or satellite though, not regular cable. The only American cable news network that we receive on basic cable, in my area anyway, is CNN. It's been that way for a long time, since CNN started broadcasting. Which incidentally was during another Conservative Government.

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Oh, I see. I didn't catch him calling the Canadian Gov. a Liberal Government. I was too worked up from the beginning. But then when he started saying it was unacceptable to slander the US Government, I perked up again.

Since when is it slander to say that someone has commited "evil" acts? Evil, afterall, is defined by your subjective perspective!

What he is basically saying is that if you don't agree with me, you are a criminal.
Once again, spinning things to suit his BS agenda... Which, by the way, is Republican National Party kickbacks in return for your "fair and balanced" reporting.

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This has got to be old, he refers to Cherak( spelling) and Cretien. The last P.M. we had was Stephen Harper. Right now I think we're in between PM's. Oh yea I guess Canada didn't help free anyone in WW1,WW2, and Canada has been on the front lines of Afghanistan since the Americans decided to detour to Iraq!

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I think you're right, this looks a little old.

He definitely made a mistake with this comment - "France has freed almost no one, ditto Canada". I think the Dutch may disagree with that comment. There's a reason they have an organization called "Thank you Canada and Allied Forces" and not just "Thanks Allied Forces'.

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I just checked with the youtube user who posted the video and she confirmed it was old.

I checked his website and found the original air date for this was at Friday, July 09, 2004.

Full transcript can be found here: www.foxnews.com...

His direct quote at the end was:

"Canada should be ashamed that so many of its young people are flat out ignorant. And Americans should wise up and realize we are living in a changing world. Old friends are not necessarily true friends. "

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by Res Ipsa

 

....first, nothing passive about my arrogance.

...second, you are making my point. Nobody tells 100% of the truth. They have their "perception" their "agenda" or what have you. The skill required is to be able to pick out truth from non-truth.

...The first skill is "critical listening" you can't get lazy about it. For example; If someone said to me, "dude, you should have heard what Rush said yesterday on his show..." (now, right there, my brain has already dismissed whatever is about to come out of my friends mouth and is ramping up to slam whatever it is that does come out of his mouth) We all do that. Its natural. It takes patience to listen.
...The second skill is "education and exposure" you have to have some working knowledge of how things are to be able to put things in some context. There is no short cut there...it takes life experience or dedication...why do you think they came up with the saying, "Youth is wasted on the young."
....it takes practice. You have to suffer through an Amedinijad speech or two. Listen to a Cheney interview. Watch the OJ trial. I thought I was way ahead of the curve in my 20's I use to watch the Moore movies...I listened to Rush Limbaugh 5 days a week for 8 months. I watched O'Reilly for one year. I've watched Olberman for about the same. Terrorist or Freedom Fighters....what are they? I know its comfortable to listen to the people we agree with and frustrating as hell to listen to those we can't stand....damn ditto heads! But.............
Nobody, and I mean nobody....can claim to deny ignorance without having to listen, and have found the truth coming out of even their worst enemies. (((( I wish I knew how to bold that, because that summed it up.))) Use percentages if it helps to begin with. Maybe O'Reilly said 22% of what is true and 78% false. Practicing that will be a great step towards "denying ignorance"
....by the way...."you" being the poster I'm responding to, is not the target audience.

Canada should be ashamed of its youth?

Maybe...

America should be ashamed of its Bill O'Reilly?

Definitely...

....wow! I kid you not, I just read down from the first page to respond to someone and didn't realize that some of you thought this was some recent O'Reilly clip....there ya go. I would have used that as an example rather than Rush and my friend. You assumed right off the bat that coming from O'Reilly it made sense that he was slamming France. We love France now with that cool dude that loves us.
.......That was on purpose........
...now, how many of you are already in defensive mode? "Was he talking about me?"..........everybody "assumes" on a daily basis....It is natural like I said before......We don't drive down a two way street thinking; "now, I wonder if that guy is going to stay in his lane or swerve into me?" We can't conduct our lives thinking through everything. BUT, that doesn't mean we should not try when it comes to "denying ignorance" If somebody creates a thread, we "should" take that time. When we discuss the middle east or Israel, we "should" take the time.
...O'Reilly equals bullchips...is not taking the time.

Sometimes Orilley can be fair, So i started listening to him once in a while. Then I heard some outragous BS come out of his mouth. Even Rupert Murdoch cant stand the man.

What right does he to Judge all of Canadas young people. Its an idiotic statement. I now put him right up there with Rush, Coulter, Hannity, and Mort Downey Jr.

...Coulter is a great example....I, who is a denier of all that is ignorant...find it almost beyond my ability to listen to her...but it helps to understand that she is just trying to stay famous, to sell books, and understands that there is a niche for her. They already have a fat white guy but not a hot white woman. It is business. Its about the money.
...she is like a fundamentalist preacher. I could care less about what they spew but they catch the gullible and thus feed ignorance. Stupid 1st amendment!

...ok, last posting for me.
Did you know that in the "Articles of the Confederation" (our first Constitution sort of)
Article XI said..."Canada acceding to this confederation, and joining in the measures of the united states, shall be admitted into, and entitled to all the advantages of this union: but no other colony shall be admitted into the same, unless such admission be agreed to by nine states."

...how about that! I wonder what happened

Maybe some historian will start a thread and speculate on what the pros or cons would have been if Canada said; "ya sure, you betcha, we're on board" (I'm from Duluth, Minnesota so Thunderbay is just another city in northern Minnesota to me) or if it makes some of you happy, Northern Minnesota is just a southern Canadian city.

Say anything you want about Canadians, but just look at how they treat their fallen soldiers - This is Respect; this is how we Honour Our Fallen soldiers:

Tens of Thousands of People for Hundreds of Miles - to Honour Six:


*Compare this to how the deaths of soldiers are treated in the US, where photographers are chastised and attacked for taking images of the fallen in their flag draped coffins.

(What you see in the video happens every time a Canadian solder dies, the crowds aren't always as big or the journey as long, but as long as a fallen soldier is going home, you'll find Canadians standing on the roadside.)

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I pick your post as a good short "O'Reilly" example...sorry.

1) you stated some factual stuff
2) you stated it with national pride
3) you emphasized it with a "comparison" to another country
4) you made false statements
....there is the O'Reilly formula....

Now, if you want to compare Canada's treatment of Vets and military deaths with America's during Vietnam...well you might make an argument.
...if you believe comparing the two Countries treatment today, then you need to be "fair and balanced"
...my quick Google search said that Canada had 0 Iraq deaths when the U.S. (at that time) had 4,200. O'Reilly would probably use that stat alone.
...Canada had lost 107 brave soldiers in Afgan. and the U.S. 641 (at that time) now, those are not Canadian numbers that can be dismissed, and I'm sure any anti-Canadian would avoid those stats like the plague.
...but I have seen the highway signs in the U.S. and the respect we have for the sacrifices of our soldiers....as you indicated....the amount of people waving banners from highways and people lining the street may be less as time goes by, but as soon as you have 4,500+ occassions to go out and line the streets, then tell me how often and how many people are out there each time.
Your post seemed to me, to be infering that the U.S. honors our fallen less than Canadian's do theirs. I take umbrage.

Originally posted by Res Ipsa
...my quick Google search said that Canada had 0 Iraq deaths when the U.S. (at that time) had 4,200. O'Reilly would probably use that stat alone.

I'm guessing that's because Canada is not in Iraq. It's harder to lose soldiers in a war you aren't fighting in.

My fellow Canadian neighbors, I deeply apologize for the comments made by the entity that is Bill O'Rielly! I have watched his show many times in the past for entertainment. If you need to relieve some stress, watch him and more than likely he will piss you off too. Sometimes I find it tension relieving to scream at him on the tv. Maybe that is weird, but he is on the air for shock value imop.

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O'Reilly is a fear mongering, spin doctoring, tool. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

He's got some serious anger issues. It's apparent by the way he flipped on Jeremy Glick, flipped out on that famous youtube clip "WHAT IS THAT? I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS! F IT I'LL DO IT LIVE", anyone that disagrees with his opinion, etc etc the list goes on and on. It scares me when I realize he still has a show because people watch him

The democrats have crazy Keith O, the republicans have crazy Bill O. Everyone gets their own pompous arse that caters to their ideology.

Does anyone else notice how MSNBC and Fox did a complete trade.

With Bush, Fox kissed butt and praised every move he made... And MSNBC trashed and ridiculed everything he did...

Already with Obama, MSNBC kisses butt and praises every move he makes... and Fox trashes, ridicules, and fear mongers on every move he makes..

Seriously, everyone needs to turn off this garbage that we call Main Stream Media and find alternate means to inform yourself of what's going on in the world...

To some extent I'm inclined to agree. Being a highschool senior, I notice are many of my peers who are extremely prejudiced against the USA. I have a friend who spent many years of his life living in Utah. Possibly the most memorable (and sad) question asked of him by a girl in his class about where he came from was (And I quote word for word):

"What is a Utah?"